Smoke grenades should not be restricted to support

Agreed. Smoke grenades should defo not be restricted to class. This needs to be reverted to be an open class grenade

Agreed. Smoke grenades are an essential tool to create opportunities and move the Battlefield forward.

Disagree. We should strengthen other projectiles, enhance the range, duration, and damage of incendiary bombs, enhance the damage range of fragmentation grenades, shorten the detonation time, enhance the duration of flash grenades, increase the suppression effect, increase the number of mini grenades carried, shorten the detonation time, and increase the damage to personnel. Strengthening other projectiles is the key to balance, not limiting the use of smoke bombs.

DonaldReliable wrote:

Disagree. We should strengthen other projectiles, enhance the range, duration, and damage of incendiary bombs, enhance the damage range of fragmentation grenades, shorten the detonation time, enhance the duration of flash grenades, increase the suppression effect, increase the number of mini grenades carried, shorten the detonation time, and increase the damage to personnel. Strengthening other projectiles is the key to balance

I disagree with this. Grenades and other explosives are all very strong. They do not need to be buffed in any way.

This topic has nothing to do with the overall strength and balance of other grenade types though. It is about the decision of limiting the smoke grenade behind a certain class, so it can not be used in the situations where it might be needed the most. This concern would be the same regardless of how overpowered the other grenades and explosives are. 

Honestly, you can have too much smoke on the battlefield. If everyone has smoke grenades the effect would be like fighting in an old time Victorian London fog, and nobody wants that.

Smoke grenades are essential to the support class because they provide cover so that downed soldiers can be resuscitated safely. The support class will also provide smoke when capturing objectives.

When I played the Support class in the open beta, I was surprised at how useful the class was and how much I enjoyed it. Ammo crate, healing, resuscitation of soldiers, protective barricades, LMG weapons, etc., what a great class it is. And the support class shines the most when it goes with frontline assault troops to the objectives.

But, if EA DICE let's everybody use smoke grenades at some point, I have no problem with that.

SpiritofGames​ I agree with what you are saying. I also think that smoke grenades are very important for the support class, and that the support class pairs really well with assault. However I do think that there is a good argument to have smokes available on the assault class as well. 

There's only one situation in which there's ever too much smoke, and that's on maps like Metro, Locker or Redacted. It's "meatgrinder" maps that are specifically designed to be, small, linear, full of choke points and require smokes to even make something happen. Guess what, people do want that. Not only that, but those maps are extremely popular as well. 

In every other map it's not an issue, because you're not required to constantly push chokepoints. In Battlefield 2042 you could have smoke grenades + smoke launchers equipped at the same time and not once have I ever seen people abuse it outside of those meatgrinder maps.

SpiritofGames​ Too much smokescreen should have mechanics that counter it instead of denying the availability of smoke nades on all the classes.

The most apparent counter to smoke grenades that does not need IR scopes would be to  make it so that explosions inside the smoke screen can have an effect like dispersing some of the smoke etc.

https://forums.ea.com/discussions/battlefield-6-general-discussion-en/open--closed-weapons-and-classes-fix/12657837

I’ll change throwables as such; smoke, flash, and standard grenades will be open to all classes. Assault will also get stunt and mini grenades, engineers will get AT and impact grenades, support will get gas and incendiary grenades, finally recon will get proximity and EMP grenades (disrupts electronics).

I agree and took it a little further on my post. Would Love IR sights to be added.

I'm on the fence with explosives dmg. I do agree that all explosives should kill at point blank but don't have an issue with what we currently have. 2042 issue wouldn't repeat as there are plenty of ways to bypass choke points (plenty of routes) and player count has been decreased

It's because smoke bombs are too versatile and powerful, so dice need to limit them, which means they won't be able to balance at all.