!MOUSE POLLING RATE ISSUE!
"Clear" pictures I just did for any modo or dev looking at that thread :
Image 5011 is when BF2042 is active(same results with desktop apps) : it shows slowest polls of 2ms max(left vertical time) which is 500hz of mouse polling rate in the worst case scenario. Enough as long as you are not playing over 500fps.
On the other hand on image 5010 when BF6 is simply running in the background (not even playing) my WHOLE system is stuck at 125hz polling rate (slowest polls are 9ms or 111hz) no matter the hundred of settings combinations Ive tried to prevent the Frostbite engine from forcing that, it just won't work and polling rate will remain at 125hz until I close BF6.
conclusion: Polling rate issue with mouse confirmed and triggered by BF6 itself.
Your conclusion is correct. I just matched my FPS to be 125. Guess what. SAME as controller, buttery smooth.
Something is 100% wrong with how this game handles polling and needs to be investigated.
Hi! EA_Leeuw
My apologies for the added pings but this seems extremely relevant.
Capping the FPS with a perfect 125 results in buttery smooth input for some reason on MNK as well.
The above post I am replying to (Okinouko) is referencing the fact that Battlefield 6 forces a system wide polling rate of 125 on the HID of the mouse. Matching the framerate with the polling rate makes the stutters completely disappear and it's absolutely smooth.
I believe the team will want this (very crucial) information, as it should not be a very large fix effort after this.
Sorry but the issue persists with the 125fps cap.
Tried every cap known to man and the judder/stutter is still there.
If the game is interpreting all mouse input as 125hz then that is the core issue.
Capping to 125fps in game does not magically fix it as polling:monitor hz are not linear. 125hz polling at 125fps does not magically make everything 1:1 and smooth.
500hz polling on your mouse is smooth up until you hit the 200hz mark on monitors, then you see the judder/stutter again. Anyone playing 300hz needs 1000hz minimum. If you go to a 500hz monitor, you're gonna need 2000hz polling to keep things smooth.
Case in point, if you cap your mouse to 125hz and use it on the desktop on a 60hz monitor, you can still see crazy stutter. Mouse smoothing is supposed to help with these issues in games at the cost of responsiveness, but in BF6 this is also completely broken and makes things worse.
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What we really need, is a response from the devs on this. Far too much snake oil being sold in this thread and it's risking derailing the entire thing. I get that people are desperate for this to work as it should and everyone is trying to find a solution, but it's ultimately an issue with the game engine itself.
Okinouko has some very useful info posted, which should hopefully help the devs isolate this. If the game is capping mouse input to 125hz then there is literally nothing we can do to alleviate this issue until the devs fix it.
This. Such inconsistent and bad mouse input must not persist. It desperately requires a fix.
Hmm ok - but capping to 125 cap indeed makes the game smoother.
Is it making the game itself smoother or the mouse input smoother?
Because if it's making your game smoother, that indicates other issues at play, and is not the mouse issue discussed here. Generally if an FPS cap helps make a game run better it's due to your hardware config. Usually this would be big FPS spikes, so what you're seeing is calmer frametimes and it being more consistent.
This again has no effect on the mouse input issue at play here.
My highest fps is in the firing range, and even then it doesn't hit 125fps. It still only hits 110fps or so. This cap doesn't suddenly match the framrate to the mouse polling, and I'm always below the 125fps cap regardless.
Again, setting the game to something like 60fps has the exact same stutter when moving the mouse as it does at any other cap. 60fps has huge power to spare and is not taxing, yet still a stuttery mess.
O man... 125 fps is the spot (thank you for the finding) - EA DICE fix this please...
