Planes are way over powerful in BFV

@Fortunete11er 

I think a 2hp per hit increase for the AA stationaris would be more than enough to do proper damage to planes (mostly to initiate disables).

AA tanks I haven't touched nor seen other players use in ages so I don't really know what to say.

Fliegefloopadoozle whatever its called Assault gadget could use a tiiiny buff in my opinion (but a dedicated group can still be a major threat).

Oh I agree, something needs to be done, I've had planes coming straight at me and I've unloaded on them and they shoot one missile and i'm done.   When you have to unload 2 - 3 full bursts and still not take down a plane yet it gets one shot....not right.  Even AA against infantry...remember 40mm canon, and they can walk away as if they were barely hurt.

My biggest beef is with AA it isn't balanced at all.

But look at the material sniper rifle, 85% health....really?  I can get good HP on armor but can't kill a enemy with one...ROFL.

All weapons need to be tweeked, but mostly the AA....been using AA since BF3, I know how to use it, this is ridiculous.  And the stationary AA, you might as well ask to be killed, I've had success but rarely.  I understand that the stationary AA is more support, even the Mobile AA is support, but once your targeted your dead with one shot.

It’s worse than that. It’s getting to the stage where I regularly see pilot players going 130-0 in breakthrough. I’ve seen squads of them go, combined, 250-0 in breakthrough.

It ruins games. Usually when these guys show up you are assured of a completely lopsided game and a lot of players on the non-pilot side just quit - which makes the game even more lopsided and not fun. These days when I see these pilots on the other side I just quit - although I’m stubborn enough to sometimes use the aa against them (which I’m very good at) until I go 10-0 (the pilot being 10). 

dice needs to tweak the scoring so there’s high points for shooting down planes, especially bombers and much lower points for killing guys on the ground. That’s because there’s no incentive for planes to shoot each other down. Watch them on the minimal - both sides planes spend large periods ignoring each other and doing bombing runs - sometimes side by side. 

then rather firing rate on a needs to be drastically upped. As you say it’s impossible  to shoot down most planes. 

other TERRIBLE features of the plane system: pilots can always see guns on their mini maps and screens If they want - it’s in the game settings. That should go because what they’re really doing is just lining up on that and bombing striding. I know that because I often fire on them and move to the side. They’ll keep bombing a gun site even if you’re not in it. Why? Because they can’t actually see you; they’re just attacking based on their mini map. That’s how easy it is. By comparison a gun pit is terribly sited, terribly protected, and you can’t see planes until they’ve come roaring in and killed you. Making the aa guns an exercise in unbalanced masochism. The gun-it’s need proper protection and they need to be better sited so they have the clear fields of fire they need. 

The guns also need better sights, especially at long range. I can hit a plane at max range. It will then - at max range - release a bomb that will hit me precisely. That’s physically impossible but it’s what the experienced pilots do. Against that a gun is 100% undefended and indefensible. The gun needs better range and better sites, not to mention a better rate of fire. If you’re a plane and you want to knock out an aa you need to be made to work for it. 

then there’s the weapons. Japanese planes with napalm? No. Rockets in 1940? No. Someone at dice doesn’t know their  history. Planes were NEVER effective tank busters during ww2. That’s a myth. They could be used to hit tanks but their successes were rare.  Stukas were only effective ground support precision bombers when the German had 100% air superiority. Almost all of the maps are unrealistic open field maps with no woods or cover, making tanks extremely vulnerable. 

the plane system and the complete lack of any way to counter that - combined with pilots of both sides being obsessed with KDRs and just wanting to drop bombs on people (I’m convinced most of the good plane pilots have OCD - what’s fun about going up and down for a whole game and just dropping bombs on people?) - is ruining this game. It definitely needs to be fixed. 

I'm new to the game and I find the planes one of the worst aspects of the game. In real life planes are overpowered but it doesn't make for a fun game. I play as a sniper mostly and I got shot by a plane from above while hiding in undergrowth where players on the ground couldn't see me. That's ridiculous. As if a place could see people hiding under bushes from hundreds of feet up. They should limit planes to 1 or 2 per game or make them much more easily shootable.

Pilots are farming infantry everyday on BT Iwo Jima. The Fliegerfaust should be buffed in my opinion. The unbalance was never so disruptive in the previous BF games. It sucks that i have to go back and play BF1 until the next game is released.

Nope. As someone who is a * pilot but spends a lot of time on aa guns I can tell you that they are underpowered and it’s almost impossible to knock down a good pilot (the rookies are easy). When someone goes 130-0 in a round and a two msn squad in planes goes 250-0 in a round you know there’s a serious problem with the game balance on planes. 

ps thanks for the advice but I’ve known all that since bf1 - which had balanced planes. 

One other point I’d make is a large number of the aa guns seem to be set up in stupid positions where you can get easily sniped. So a good percentage of my deaths on aa guns in breakthrough(which is what I most;y play - conquest and the other modes is for noobs -  is from level 2 campers sniping from the other side of the map.