Re: Team balance, easy fix

Anti-cheat is a whole different issue. I can comment only on EU servers, I would say I see a cheating player about on 5% of the servers. I simply leave when I see that. They say in Asian servers it is much worse. And actually in EU servers I think it was somewhat better. No idea why people cheat, defeats the whole purpose of the game (competition).

Speaking of team balance, I had my first match where the whole enemy teamwould rage quit us. LOL Never saw this happen before!

Here is another example:

Round is starting out with me being the only lvl100+ player on my team vs 4 lvl100+ players + 2 lvl200 players....

The round hasn't even started but you already know the outcome... it's gonna be BAD!

This is the middle of the match look at the K/D ratio is both teams:

And here is the ending:

I sure gave 'em hell but man did we EVER had a chance when there is such a big difference between the overall team rank.

FIX IT DICE, IT'S NOT SOMETHING DIFFICULT TO SOLVE

FFS please fix this already......... today I got into 5 matches in a row with no chance of doing anything meaningful it was so awfully unblanaced.

F_I_X   I_T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Freeman mentioned on Twitter (probably a few weeks ago now, so it might be a little buried), that the team stealth snuck a few servers into the mix with a current form of team balance -- mixed results and they'll need to make further tweaks, but from what I hear things sounded promising. I'm not entirely sure if regular players could find/play them but it's nice to know it's still being worked on.

This new balancer will moat likely be what is used in the next title (same with Community Games) so * fingers crossed*

@TTZ_Dipsy  Good news, let's hope it's true.

Meanwhile another match where apparently rank "didn't matter"

We barely lost any tickets... wtff

Here is an explanation why high-ranked players matter more than you would think:

Let's suppose we have a team with 3 players at level 150 and everyone else is below. These 3 people can easily kill anyone below level 100 so they keep piling up big kill streaks.

Now let's assume the enemy team is lucky enough to have a level 300 player to join them. He will not only have big kill streaks but due to his finess and experience will counter the level 150 players on a regular basis and defend their own players from dieing. It's like having and Ace in your deck of cards.

This is why the strongest players determine the OUTCOME of the match most of the time.

Is this always true? Of course not. But very often I find my worst opponents to be the best players in the enemy team and if it wasn't for them, some of my killstreaks would count a lot more victims.

So an advanced matching system would have to balance the top 20% of players with bigger weights. (On a 32 vs 32 map you would have to accurately match the top 6 / 6 players as they ultimately who set the balance in the game)

@Real_Noobalishus  if you had a proper balancing system in the first place you could not have a squad of 5 high ranked players matched against complete noobs.

Well, I never proposed comparing K/D of players or squads just only rank. If your are high ranked, you have played the game more and have more idea how to contribute to your team even if your K/D is not super high. Also you could be a low ranked tank wh0re with high K/D and have no clue about infantry play. As I said matching by rank is not super accurate but the goal is not to make every game a draw but to have better teambalance than we have now. This would be the first step, the rest will be fine tuning.

Here is a good example what I was talking about in the previous post:

As you can see the highest ranking players piling up most kills and one team having more of the high ranked players results in a COMPLETE imbalance of the teams.

This is far too common not to notice. Unless you are testing in a closed studio with the same people / relatively similar skill level.

Btw this was the first server I joined today and just by looking at the scoreboard you could tell: it's not worth playing this match because the outcome is already sealed.

Since teambalance is mostly dependent on the rank of the best players in a team here is how I would apply the rule:

Add rank of top 6 players in a team and match it as accurately as possible to the opposing team's same number.

Do the same for the next 6 players with a bit more room for mismatch.

The bottom 20 players can be selected randomly.

With this method teams would be balanced and diverse at the same time.

@Real_Noobalishusit's the least I would worry about. As far as I know there is no way to reset your account so unless you buy the game multiple times, there is no way to fool the ranking system. 99% of players represent their real rank.

Today's experience: played like 8 matches in conquest, lost none, ACE squad 8 times.

Here is the response:

@GUTENTAAAAGYou clearly don't play on console. Once someone has a Xbox Live account and I'm sure Playstation has their version of it, the online access is connected to the console itself. which means you can make as many accounts as you want and the game is shared between all the accounts which means I could make 100 fake accounts and each one would go into the game as lvl 1, no need to keep buying the same game over and over again. These are known as Smurf accounts and you can always tell when there's a smurf account on your server as it'll be the under lvl 10 going 42 - 1 on the ground. Usually in the case of the Oceania region which is small, most of us know each other and are on the same facebook groups, so you can normally work out who the smurf really is based on the gun used and team they run with

@Real_Noobalishus  yeah, I play on PC only. In this case if there are plenty of "smurf" accounts the K/D ranking system could work for balancing just keep in mind you don't have to apply it for the whole team, it is enought to balance out the top 20% players to be even to have a balanced match.

pff Team death match all cheaters, played breakthrough balancing issues.(as described here)  And then I only played the daily's this night. The gaming experience is getting more worse these days. Hope the fix will come soon. 

Sadly I also see more and more cheaters no EU PC servers.

In the end someone joined and came in the left list instead of right. That was a WTF moment. 

In the end a guy suicide and left so it came on a draw.. Game just continued with no opposite players and was just on a countdown. 

That's really something I expect to be fixed 

Again a cheater wasted a TDM game. (92-0) due to this people left end of game. (Cheater as well so no name shaming) When I look at scoreboard I literally see the enemy team growing. Where the left team had less players.  Time to do sports I guess. 

So some people left and new people joint few minutes later. Have a look for yourself. 

We need a solution for the problem of the unbalanced teams. It's a great problem of this game.

Teambalance at it's best. No this is not cheating, just a skill gap and a couple of medics...