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happylove1888
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4 months ago

Protected Rivals causing home/away rotation issues across all teams in Dynasty

Hey, EA

I’ve noticed a pretty big scheduling problem in Dynasty Mode when the “Protected Rivals” setting is turned on.

When you use Protected Rivals (for example, I play as Arkansas and protect Texas A&M and Missouri as their Arkansas, biggest rivals,), it works fine for rival games. But once you advance to the next season, the scheduling logic for every team starts breaking. You’ll see multiple matchups repeating in the same stadium back-to-back years.

For example, in Season 1 as Arkansas, I played Tennessee and Mississippi State on the road. In Season 2, I played both of them on the road again. The home/away rotation just doesn’t flip like it should. Another example: Florida can end up playing at LSU two seasons in a row, from the 1st season to the 2nd one.

It’s not just one team — the issue affects the entire conference. The home/away rotation system basically stops working once Protected Rivals are set. It makes long-term dynasties feel unrealistic since stadiums and matchups don’t rotate like they should.

If anyone wants to test it, just pick an SEC or Big Ten team — after the first original season, you’ll notice at least one opponent repeating in the same home/away setting.

I would love it if this could be fixed or adjusted in a patch — the feature itself is great, it just needs the rotation logic to stay consistent for all teams.

Sadly the setting comes at an expense of **bleep** scheduling 

Extra Note: Forgot to mention It don't just run for 2 seasons you could be playing one team in the same setting for 3 seasons in a row. Also I think there should be more than 2 protected rivals but that's for another post.

Thanks!

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  • It's not the protected rivalries that's screwing it up. 

    It's the "no divisions" model that conferences are moving towards that gives the scheduler too much leeway without proper guardrails. I fully recognize that I have limited coding knowledge, and things I might think of as easy are probably deceptively difficult, but a realistic home-away split for conference games just does not seem like moving mountains to me. It is 4-5, or 5-4 for a 9 game conference model, and 4-4 for and 8 game conference model. These do not seem like the most impossible checks to add on to generating a schedule.  

    The other thing I don't get is how the game will have conference schedules spit out 3 or more home or away conference games in a row. NO CONFERENCE OFFICE WOULD DO THAT. 

    I fully agree that conference schedules need fixing, but protected rivalries is not the issue. EA cannot fix a problem if you cannot identify the real root of the issue. 

  • happylove1888's avatar
    happylove1888
    Seasoned Novice
    4 months ago

    Thank you for your response. As I said in a Reddit, I've run multiple tests where I took 2 of the exact same teams in different saves, and after season 1, I would turn on the protected rival setting for one of the saves and leave it off for the other. The one with the protected setting just pretty much **bleep** up the conference scheduling, and it's continuous for nearly every season I sim towards, while the other is pretty fine, but in addition, you don't get to play some  traditional rivals that you should be playing every year (not talking about rivalry week) but I just hope if I'm wrong the issue still gets resolved either way.

  • So the biggest thing you're not considering (or at least have not mentioned) is the default schedule vs after edits. If you don't touch the conferences at all, the default schedule is railroaded to match the known games we have (I think through 2030). Eventually, though, you run out of known games and you get a random drawing of conference opponents with no consideration for rivalries. Basically, you have to control for all the variables before blaming one particular feature. 

    This railroading of the default schedule is what is giving the appearance of protected rivalries creating bad conference schedules. Eventually you will end up with the same bad schedules, protected rivalries or not. That's what came up when I tested this out. It is the fact that EA does not add the proper guardrails to its conference schedule generator, and the no-divisions model of large conferences takes out the few guardrails that do exist. 

  • Well what I said before Protected Rivals or not felt like this issue is something that should of been fixed a long time ago and is pretty glaring to some people.

  • happylove1888's avatar
    happylove1888
    Seasoned Novice
    4 months ago

     I would also say It might not be the sole reason but it does create situations where scheduling becomes a issue especially when I factored it with the setting off.

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