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Re: Challenge matches

TegliG : I do not know about others but to me the experience counts very much. When you experience an unfair game play, does the game consider to be good. I have played every pc version of C&C and none is even close to being bad as this Rival. The feeling is very much like betting on baccarat table but the results is skewed in different situation instead of random results (luck). After playing this game for close to 1 year, I can say that skills only contribute 50% to the winning factor. It’s all determine by how often you pay and the number of times you play per day. I hv stop playing for some time and then resume playing, my winning ratio increases by a lot. I even hv many matches where I just launch my harvester and I am declare a winner. 

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  • TegliG's avatar
    TegliG
    6 years ago
    @totorodc12345 I do not think there is any game in which you can be the best from the first match. Training, learning the meta, analysing past games. This is what counts, not the amount of money you spend on the game. The best rival players on the top of the ladder are free to play gamers.
  • What are you talking about ?? We are saying that this game sucks due to poor game experience as many players felt that the game is not being fair as matching is badly done. So don’t give unrelated response here. When did anyone ask to be the best in first match here ??? If you cannot accept genuine feedback on this game like this then I would kindly suggest that you do not comment further that is unrelated. Am not here to make enemies, but it’s just that there are many seasoned commenters here that sounded very very much like EA paid/unpaid people. I hv been monitoring this bunch for almost a year and I am very convinced these are not the normal gamers but are somehow affiliated with EA either direct/indirectly. And am fed up with these people giving half truth advice and misleading the new gamers to Rivals. :<


  • @totorodc12345 wrote:

    What are you talking about ?? We are saying that this game sucks due to poor game experience as many players felt that the game is not being fair as matching is badly done. So don’t give unrelated response here. When did anyone ask to be the best in first match here ??? If you cannot accept genuine feedback on this game like this then I would kindly suggest that you do not comment further that is unrelated. Am not here to make enemies, but it’s just that there are many seasoned commenters here that sounded very very much like EA paid/unpaid people. I hv been monitoring this bunch for almost a year and I am very convinced these are not the normal gamers but are somehow affiliated with EA either direct/indirectly. And am fed up with these people giving half truth advice and misleading the new gamers to Rivals. :<


    You are being delusional. Do you actually think that a paid EA staffer will tell you that? If I was, I would get fired for telling you that. As far as the game sucking because you are losing, post a screenshot of your battles. I bet you won’t because I will without a doubt tell you why you lost just by looking at your deck and pointing out it’s weakness. 

    For example, I face players all the time that do not use rifleman, militants, dogs, or wheels. Without those, you are at a disadvantage in the early game and will almost certainly lose the first missile unless your opponent is another one that doesn’t know how important those are. 

    Another thing I see is players relying on flame and shock troops to clear infantry each and every time. Those are expensive. You can do the same with 10 Tiberium rifleman or dogs or wheels.. Those flames and shocks should only be used against cyborgs and zone troopers. You have to smartly use Tiberium trade offs in your favor. It makes no sense to send a 60 Tiberium Flame trooper against a 20 Tiberium missile trooper. Because once you do, a 30 Tiberium Buggy, Helicopter or a 10 Tiberium Dog or Wheel will kill it. Do the math. If you keep making bad trades like that, your opponent will get to tech much faster than you and overwhelm you. 


    The same goes with players that do not have pit bulls or bikes in their deck. Once that chembuggy or helicopter comes out, you have nothing to counter it unless you get to tech. 

    Most bad players have decks like this. One or two infantry followed by the rest being expensive tech units that they cannot get out. You need a balanced deck. 

  • totorodc12345's avatar
    totorodc12345
    6 years ago

    You are definitely one of those commenters that I was talking about. And reason many players give up commenting here is bcoz of people like you. Stop your bullshxt here. If there are 1-2 venting out there frustration mayb it’s their lack of skills but there a dozens that have complaint in this forum before. It does mean something. And I am wasting my time here to even reply to your bullshxting. Summary is this game sucks and period. I am not the only one saying this, lots of review by many game reviewing portal said so as well. Reason I am still playing is just to past my time and bcoz I hv foolishly paid before and am just getting my money’s worth in using this to pass time. But when I see injustice by some people in this forum trying to mislead others, I hv to voice out. 


  • @totorodc12345 wrote:

    You are definitely one of those commenters that I was talking about. And reason many players give up commenting here is bcoz of people like you. Stop your bullshxt here. If there are 1-2 venting out there frustration mayb it’s their lack of skills but there a dozens that have complaint in this forum before. It does mean something. And I am wasting my time here to even reply to your bullshxting. Summary is this game sucks and period. I am not the only one saying this, lots of review by many game reviewing portal said so as well. Reason I am still playing is just to past my time and bcoz I hv foolishly paid before and am just getting my money’s worth in using this to pass time. But when I see injustice by some people in this forum trying to mislead others, I hv to voice out. 


    I wasn’t going to respond but since you made “paid by EA comments“, I had to check you. Anyway, let’s see your deck. Screenshot of your battles please.  

  • xMaksuss's avatar
    xMaksuss
    6 years ago

    Oh my ******* god, can you guys all stop bi***ing about the levels being stupid?

    At „Everyone who hates the level system“:

    Well too bad, the level system will stay, and there is absolutely not a single thing you can do about it. Spend money on the game? Why the **** are you spending money on a pay2win game??

    At “Everyone who defends the game“:

    You know just as well as me that this level system is complete and utter bull****, stop defending it and acting like this is the best they could come up with. Its the best way to grab all of your money, that‘s for sure.

    At “EVERYONE“:

    Either you accept the current level system, or you simply stop playing. Complaining about the level system has done nothing since the release of the game until now, and it will also not do anything until this game dies. Go with the flow, or break free. Your choice... Not the choice of the devs, YOURS.

  • DeathIronic's avatar
    DeathIronic
    6 years ago

    show me a screen recording of you winning more than 50% against opponents at least 4 levels above you  or shut the f*ck up

    i ONLY RECEIVE challenge matches of opponents LEVELS  above mine and not a single opponent is a regular match the last 20 or so matches and it only starts after 2700 coins or so

    Iv restarted from scratch several times and played up and I kept all of them in the alliance the pattern follows the same every time

    of youre DEFENDING EA and the game you have something to gain from people being able to pay yo bully

    this is not a strategy game just a way to make money for some select people

    There is no way to CHOOSE  your opponents

    or even the level of game play

    The "MUTE" button does not actually Mute anything

    and when someone tries to speak out about how unfair the gameplay is you deride them and say they are incorrect and lack skill

    Let me watch you beat an opponent when two level 11 (max) infantry can take out a level  8 jeep

    if you defend bullies you are also a bully and a piece of 💩 

  • @xMaksuss Anyway to go fund me a rip off of rivals? We make our own game call it something obviously NOT a rip off
  • xMaksuss's avatar
    xMaksuss
    6 years ago

    @DeathIronic 

    A week ago I made a new account. I called it "LeveL 5 units", and as the name implies, I am keeping my units all at level 5. In 2 days, I reached diamond already. The "bad" winrate comes from me experimenting with strategies in events, so it can be ignored.

    While I lost some matches because levels sometimes are just too much, so far I have only lost challenge battles, but not a single non-challenge battle. Here is my "winstreak":

    Keep in mind that I am so underleveled, that I don't even qualify for challenge battles with unit levels. In diamond, my units would have to be at least level 7. All the challenge battles I got were "unknown enemy units" ones.

    Am I saying that the level system is well thought out and balanced? - Absolutely not. Without it, the game would be WAY better.

    Am I saying that levels are not everything, but skill matters too? - Absolutely yes. Throwing level 11 marauders at level 5 millitants will not win you the game, for example.

  • DeathIronic's avatar
    DeathIronic
    6 years ago

    Do  you face a constant barrage of challenge matches where the opposing units are 4 levels above you? 
    even the direct counter like the jeep at level 8 cant kill the level 11 infantry

    so what you are actually doing is defending a system that rewards bullying 

    which makes you a bully

    a lack of strategy goes a long way towards defeat 

    but an equally unfairly stacked deck goes a long way towards victory on the other side

    when you have a greater than 55% win rate against 100 opponents consecutively that are at least 4 levels above you then ill bow down and call you the rivals master

    Until then f* off  

  • xMaksuss's avatar
    xMaksuss
    6 years ago

    I am actually 6 levels down XD

    As you can see above, I'm on a 124 "winstreak". Challenge battles do not end a winstreak, that's why I use quotation marks. The winrate seen in the picture resets each week and I have played only experimental events in that one, so it doesn't count. But I can assure you that out of 10 games I win at least 7 while being 4-6 levels down. This brings me to a 70-90% winrate (Sometimes I'm lucky and win all/almost all my 10 daily matches, sometimes I'm not. Sometimes the levels are too much, even for me.)

    And no, I am NOT defending this system at all. Read again what I wrote above. This system is not healthy for the game at all and without it, it would be way better. But this makes the most money, so you can guess why it is implemented this way.

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