I'm not an Esport Driver but in my opinion this year game is too easy. Is F1 23 realistic in your opinion

@jamesjuve86 definitely more realistic. you can feel the car a lot more in every situation. it is definitely more realistic. is easier to drive it yes, but is it easier to squeeze out all the performance? not really, is different, but more realistic and rewarding.Is it perfect, no, by no means perfect, but, is more realistic. F1 teams have said that, not me. We should believe them, I guess.

You can add challenge by trying to drive faster, driving around without pushing the limits of the car will feel easy, but push the car to 'your' limit and you can easily spin. There was certianly nothing realistic about the insane Torque of F122.And as a additional note, Anthony Davidson was involved in the development of the handling, often real driver input needs to be taken with a pinch of salt, but Anthony Davidson is well known for his excellent sim work and high quality feedback for real F1 teams, so i would be confident that the F1 23 car is far closer to the real thing in terms of traction than F1 22.

Harder to drive does not equal more realistic. This has been an issue in racing games forever among those who subscribe to the idea that if it's not borderline impossible to drive the cars then it's not realistic. When anyone who does actually race cars immediately comes in and says hey this is not like real life. Hell it's the same in something as hardcore sim focused as iracing with many drivers pointing out the tire feel and tire wear is absurd compared to real life. You get it in GT3 racing online where people are so insistent on not using TC or ABS when the real cars use TC and ABS they want it to feel the same while not using 'assists' cos that's for kids of course even though the real cars use these things... Making things impossible is not making them more realistic.

Personally speaking, I'm really enjoying it this year. I'm not an alien racer, I'm very average (70 AI with a wheel this year). I've been playing the Codemasters F1 games since 2012 and this is the first time since 2017 that I've been able to race in the rain, on a wheel, without assists and enjoy it. It's not easy, though. Still tensed up, trying not to spin out, but I can do lap after lap and keep the car on the track if I'm careful, much like watching the lads in qualifying at Canada last weekend.Considering that I haven't been able to experience wet racing like this with a wheel since 2017 (fond memories of a wet to dry race at Melbourne are what comes to mind, a very similar driving experience to F1 23), I think is an indicator of where the blurring between realism, difficulty and enjoyment went wrong afterwards. Remember, people who'd played F1 games and then tried the iRacing Mercedes and couldn't believe how relatively easy it was to drive. And as someone previously in the thread said, realism doesn't necessarily mean harder. For what I've experienced with F1 23, I think it's bang on perfect. Great fun. Please don't change it.

@DavidGG53 wrote:@jamesjuve86definitely more realistic. you can feel the car a lot more in every situation. it is definitely more realistic. is easier to drive it yes, but is it easier to squeeze out all the performance? not really, is different, but more realistic and rewarding.Is it perfect, no, by no means perfect, but, is more realistic. F1 teams have said that, not me. We should believe them, I guess.Couldn't agree more. 👍

This year game too easy or realistic ?

28 Replies

timinator2014
3 years ago
@jamesjuve86 Do you mean the more forgiving traction? I asked myself the same question, it feels much more like 2020 game. I am tempted to add some throttle saturation to make it more challenging
jamesjuve86
3 years ago
I find control the car too easy also without assists.
Scarlet_Monarchy
Seasoned Novice
3 years ago
You can add challenge by trying to drive faster, driving around without pushing the limits of the car will feel easy, but push the car to 'your' limit and you can easily spin.
There was certianly nothing realistic about the insane Torque of F122.
And as a additional note, Anthony Davidson was involved in the development of the handling, often real driver input needs to be taken with a pinch of salt, but Anthony Davidson is well known for his excellent sim work and high quality feedback for real F1 teams, so i would be confident that the F1 23 car is far closer to the real thing in terms of traction than F1 22.
DavidGG53
3 years ago
@jamesjuve86 definitely more realistic. you can feel the car a lot more in every situation. it is definitely more realistic. is easier to drive it yes, but is it easier to squeeze out all the performance? not really, is different, but more realistic and rewarding.

Is it perfect, no, by no means perfect, but, is more realistic. F1 teams have said that, not me. We should believe them, I guess.
Apophis-STR
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@jamesjuve86The AI's behavior this year seems to be the weakest compared to the past three years. Whenever they approach an overtaking opportunity, they would hesitate, brake prematurely, then came to almost a halt just to back off, almost as if they are grappling with an existential crisis brought on by all the so-called "overly-aggressive complaints" from previous year. This new characteristic has rendered them frustratingly sluggish when navigating through traffic.

In the past they were already quite dumb on the first lap, often getting caught in groups of cars despite numerous chances to overtake. However, their current form takes their perplexing behavior to an entirely new level of incompetence.

F1 22's Ai were by no means realistic, but at the very least it was fun because they put up a fight. This year? They are nor realistic or fun to race against.

Give me back F1 22's Ai for the love of god 🤦‍♂️

Driving wise, it's definitely the easiest compare to the last three years, especially in highspeed chicanes for pad-users.
ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@Apophis-STR 💯. Last years Ai you hadt to properly position and time attacking the Ai into every corner cause they wouldn’t give you an inch and if you took anymore than that it resulted in your doom.

This year I find it laughable and even feel a little guilty how easy it is to bully them. It’s clearly their corner they are on top off the apex… and I come along and just squeeze myself down the inside off them and push them off it. “Don’t mind me” 👍
Meza994
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@ScarDuck14 Thats what happens when the devs listen to those people complaining about "AI racing them too hard/leaving no space" while many of them divebomb the living hell out of the AI😂
ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@Meza994 Loudest voice on it and the most ridiculous dive bomber is Alex Gillon who like to drop he talks to Codemasters. And in this game he keeps says the Ai are so much better. I fear he had some influence
Meza994
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@ScarDuck14 Its not only him, soo many youtubers have whined about it and divebombed stupidly
Blackbird90
3 years ago
@DavidGG53 wrote:
@jamesjuve86definitely more realistic. you can feel the car a lot more in every situation. it is definitely more realistic. is easier to drive it yes, but is it easier to squeeze out all the performance? not really, is different, but more realistic and rewarding.

Is it perfect, no, by no means perfect, but, is more realistic. F1 teams have said that, not me. We should believe them, I guess.
Couldn't agree more. 👍