Re: Constant AI DRS train

Agree with most of what is said in this thread.

• AI DRS trains are awful. The AI don't manage overtakes and just slow each other down. Player can usually easily pass the 'train' and speed off.
• AI ERS usage is badly implemented, might be a symptom of the system where you can run 90% of a race in hotlap mode. Too much overtake available at all times. Gamer boost button isn't fun.
• Seemingly no crashes, breakdowns or errors from the AI, no yellow flags, no safety cars, etc..

Yeah guess have to wait weeks for a fix again..

Wow, none of these issues are even on the 'investigating' list on the below link:

F1® 24 - Community-Raised Issues - Answer HQ (ea.com)

This is shameful. I am guessing two months until they fix anything of any worth. I feel like I have been scammed. 

It's extremely poor to say the least. I hope this game breaking issue can be resolved quickly, however I think something like this may take some time to be implemented.

Some excellent points on this thread as to why we are having the DRS train issues. All of which make perfect sense.

For me personally, make the performance gap between the teams more realistic and reduce the power of the overtake function. Which I think may be the main issue.

Adjustments to the DRS may also be required. Do we also need a hotlap deployment too in the races?

For me, just have medium overtake (reduced) and off to recharge. And keep hotlap for qualifying only.

Question is what kinda solution do people want? The realistic one or another arcady/gamified solution?

The realistic version would be more struggle with tyre temps, engine temps, downforce loss in dirty air, differing tyre/engine temps for each team resulting in different race pace also 130bhp higher engine power so that overtake isnt as effective and somewhat nerfed ERS recovery.. No changes to DRS as its the most accurate it has ever been.

i am sorry for you guys. I am happy and proud of myself that i didnt buy it yet. tbo i even dont bother when they will fix it...i just know that i am not gonna buy it until the game works....if that need time until its cheaper or in sale, it is what it is. Imagine you buy a new car for full prize and they give you the forth wheel 6 month later :D

anyway, i hope it get fixed very soon! Seen it in every yt creator career mode gameplay. it unplayable

Personally I can't see them implementing proper dirty air or high temps etc. So i'll take anything to just get shot of the boring drs trains. Every race ends up with you racing on your own as the ai can't escape the drs train. 

This hasn't been a issue in previous games so this ers change may have been the trigger. 

Surely any of their testers could have picked this up pre release. I tried to bring it up in the beta but clearly they don't read the feedback. Or don't see it as a priority

I've played 16 hours so far, nearly all in career. 

In that time I've had:

• No yellow flags
• No virtual safety car
• No safety car
• No incidents reported on the incidents screen in race director
• No red flags
• No mechanical issues
• No DNFs from any car
• AI consistently forms 1 or 2 DRS trains and is incapable of overtaking

Career mode is 100% broken. I have set safety car and red flags to 'increased', and still have not seen a single one. In 16 hours, with 35% race distances.

This absolutely needs to be addressed by a patch as soon as possible. It's unplayable in its current form. Nothing happens in a race, and the AI is incapable of overtaking. 

I don't understand why these issues are not being listed as being investigated in the community-raised issues thread. It should be the top priority for the dev team.

Simplest solution for drs trains short term would be widening performance gaps between teams and more variety in strategy.

Did qualification in spain and top six were within one tenth. To twelve within four tenths. Those gaps are exciting but also a problem. Stake aren't .3 off red bull! The gaps need doubling or trebling. Think that would instantly improve the racing.

Hi there,

Thank you all for your report and feedback.

This has been escalated and the team is aware of it. I'll keep you updated as soon as I have more information.

-Groguet

I've had this issue in all 4 races now. There were 3 DRS trains in Race one except the redbulls who were clear ahead so they didn't get caught up. 

In the second race there were 2 DRS trains. By Australia I started really noticing the issue. If there is a train of more than 3 cars what happens is the 2 lead cars battle it lap after lap whilst the rest just sit behind at a certain speed. I think someone noted it before I think its because the AI are deploying the battery exactly the same way so there is no variation. That and the AI seemingly don't get affected by dirty air I had Leclerc behind me for 20 laps yet his tyres were in better condition than mine and I had been running in free air in a mclaren.

I also noticed the AI ha e OP traction in damp conditions when trying to set a lap while it was raining the inters were too slow but all the AI had perfect traction out of corners whilst I was dancing amd fighting the steering wheel like it was a tango dance.

I hope this gets fixed because until it is I can't see the enjoyment of racing. I'm actually getting use to the handling it's the DRS trains and over the top ERS deployment that is making it annoying. I think the recharge is way to quick.

I swear there is something in the regulations that says you can deploy 2MJ per lap but only harvest 1MJ so if you drain the battery you shouldn't be able to recharge it in one lap. 

Increase ers variability to the AI, buff the dirty air affect on AI and also nerf the battery recharge rate and I think you'll fix the majority of the issues.

I think we are asking a lot for ai to take all them factors into account while this game is still having to run on ps4 and xbox one. Hopefully once we are shot of them things may improve. For now hopefully they can fix the drs train issues another way

Can this be added to the community raised issues as I won’t believe it’s actually being looked into until this is done. If the game was made with the correct procedures then this issue wouldn’t have materialised in the first place.

I don't know why pointless tiny bugs are listed there like Haas and Ferrari having the same colour on the mini map but they don't list the AI in career mode and my team being totally broken. 

Yes please add this to community raised issues. It's a game breaker of a bug!

Please add it to the community raised issues at least to show us that you acnowledge the bug, its currently the biggest bug that ruins the experience of 40% of players

The AI has gone backwards though. In Ben's Career Mode part 3...

A secondary problem is that it feels like 50% race distances and under, a 2-stop is always a horrible strategy. Not only is it not faster, but because the AI can't overtake, whoever does it more or less ruins their race and finishes at the back.

It feels as if the AI wasn't trained at all for the new ERS modes and tire model,  nor was strategy accounted for as every race is now exclusively one stop. Maybe it's different on 100% races, but I always do 50% or 35%. I thought the point of 35% over 50% was to mix up some strategy without committing to a longer distance?

The whole series has taken a huge step backwards IMHO. Things that were working pretty well before and made the series enjoyable are totally broken now. 

The AI in 23 was the best I've ever experienced so far. This time round it's a complete disaster. The good news I guess is, it has been recognised and hopefully will be resolved soon with a patch.