F1 25 with a CONTROLLER need to improved

Force feedback must also improve, we can hardly feel how the car is behaving when going under braking or in the exits

I partially agree with you. As a wheel player, just like you're mad that now wheel players beat you, i can tell you the exact same thing on the other way around. Having a 500/600$ setups as you just said, i dont know why i shouldnt have some type of advantage against a pad player. 

Anyway, i agree with you when you're talking about the mechanic of the handling that doesnt allow you to be confident with the game, with it being unresponsive and not in syncro with your real inputs.

I would like to add one thing, SCI MOBARAK, THE STRONGEST pad player, says that we are COOKED, then we are truly cooked! Cmon Codemasters, do something for pad players! 

Finally someone that fully understand what i mean, THANK GOD! 

You really nailed everything, and i really hope that Codemasters gonna fix it as soon as possible, cause right now, there is no CHANCE to compete against wheel players!

Cheers buddy, for real! 💪🏻👏🏻

Theres literally no one on controller in PSGL or WOR except the 2% because of this. 

I know many controller players at esport level were they BEATS BY A MILE wheel players in 24/23/22 etc, and these guys like the majority of the controller competitive players THEY WONT TOUCH THE GAME until, they fix the imput not being responsive and rapid, the inconsistent traction on the corner exit (many pad players on slow corners have to use the 2nd gear to have a better traction on the exit, risk to spin, have A LOT of wheelspin and wear the rear tyre ( concrete examples? Suzuka hairpin and the bahrain hairpin) instead of the wheel players where theyre on 3rd), because of the late responiveness in the input (steering) which is very late, we suffer so much on the corner entry too which we tend to slide which brings MORE TYRE WEAR even if we drive smoothly (as i do usually) same problem on high speed corners like the s on australia, so much understeer because of this, like we have to brake and lose laptime on qualy, in a race situation, we have to slow down our pace on 50% distance races because if not we'll have to do a 2 stop race because of this, me and some wheel and pad players have made many tests and comparisons, and we came to the conclusion that pad players lose from 6 tents to 1.5 second in race and qualy because of this issue which is making competitive pad players to quit the game or pay between 500/1500 €/£/$ for a wheel set-up n order to be competitive, i can understand that the causal players wants to have a realistic experience similar to the 23 etc, but if one day they want to race for a league or start a new challenge by being no assist and they will notice these issues, how they will progress?

The game is way better than the 24 and it's a real shame that (for now hopefully) us competitive pad players we cannot fully enjoy it, and the wheel players we beat race after race in the past games because of this they have a laugh at us.

AND I REALLY HOPE you will fix that asap.

Oh another thing, there's a bug which the vibration on our controller disappear during a race and this lead us to close the game and reopen it in order to fix it.

Same here, and nope, it is not a skill issue, Mobarack is so fast, top 20 in the world, and he is struggling too

I'm currently 4–5 tenths slower. In tt I lose 1–2 tenths, but in races with my friends the gap is around 4 tenths per lap.

how much slower are you now in F125 in general compared to f123/24 in comparison to drivers who were on your level in these games? How is it in psgl with the best pad drivers, are they much slower now?

I fully agree with you, hope they make it much more responsive, cause wheel player are too mich advantaged right now

Australia S? I don't think I've ever been so consistent like now in F1 25 with those two corners. Back then, during 2020, 21 & 22, I had to constantly use flashbacks in those places because the end-to-end steering rotation speed for pads were so slow no matter how you tweak them. 

Only when they fixed that in 23 I finally could do those corners properly, and now I could nail them perfectly all-day-long in 25, it had never felt so good with pad than what we have right now, it is literally the only thing in the game that I could not complain about.  

If you find yourself understeering, you're most likely either going too fast to begin with, or your setup is holding you back (be it the car, or the controller setting).