Forum Discussion

ScarDuck14's avatar
ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago

Codies please let the Ai run free

Ok finally got rid off my daughter and started a new my team career with better ai or is it?

Got my conspiracy hat on so I could be talking complete nonsense.  


Ok Only raced Bahrain however it’s a good track to see how the ai races. Should add My team I started as a mid team and 4th ranked team going into the Race but my team car is still a fat lazy dog.   So I don’t expect to match ai acceleration however 

Ai is definitely slower.  Painfully slower.   Ai was already slow through the corners now it’s allmost goes at walking pace.  But  Ai speed out off slow corners hasn’t been fixed.  Because it’s now just comical.  As  the latest quick sticky plaster fix.  Has just made the problem more exaggerated.    Cause now they are slower  into slow corners.  But still rocket out off them.   And perfect example going into turn ten.  Perfectly judging my speed to the ai cars speed infront.  Which isnt easy.. hands up flashbacks were used lots  due to them scrubbing way tp much speed.   But as soon as ai accelerates out off turn ten by the end off the straight it’s gained up to half a second.  Straight line speed isn’t a issue. I was shocked as my top speed for first time ever reached 210mph on the main straight.  But it’s no good cause the gap they get bursting out off the corners.

Then just to annoy me some more since pit stop the gap to the car  behind  was gradually increasing every lap  a tenth here a few tenths there so going into the last 2 laps I’ve got good tyres undamaged and all new parts.   But as ever ai gets a boost ands cut over 3 seconds out off my lead.  

So to me it’s obvious the game forces the ai to act in certain ways at certain times to give us a more exciting race.  But it’s not exciting when you know your not racing the ai but game excitement mechanics  .  But it’s ridiculous.  The way I see it. Codemasters Ai is awesome so it’s code must be complex.  Adding excite mechanics forcing it to bend its coding I think makes it lose its 💩.  

Disclaimer… I have no facts to back this up. It’s just me thinking out aloud.  But I am all knowing 😀👍

f1 22

25 Replies

  • ScarDuck14's avatar
    ScarDuck14
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @AEF251 She’s a 12 year old pain in the backside and I’m a middle aged grumpy old man…. I love her to death. She’s a good kid and we get on ridiculously great until she comes and stays and takes over my ps5 to play that stupid Fortnite rubbish. I as the grownup I have to let her. But it’s my ps5 and I don’t want to share it😀👍
  • nangu22's avatar
    nangu22
    3 years ago
    @ScarDuck14 I'm thinking the same since the game launched, and this new patch didn`t solve the underlaying issue with the AI.

    When you compound AI insane acceleration abilities, with the difficulties the human player has to deal on the same circumstances (sudden snap oversteer when applying throttle, without any sign of it through the FFB system) it feels like you are playing a game with a bunch of cheaters.

    Then you have the other problems AI has, such us no tyre temperature problems, apparently always available ERS power, super grip on wet conditions, difficulty level imbalances, etc.

    Devs also were unable to fully fix the development programmes on Career. Last race at Baku, post patch 1.08, AI level at 65%, I miserably failed the Qualy programme because the game expected an impossible for my skill lap time, only to end up qualifying 10th for the race afterwards, with the same lap time I did on the previous programme.

    As per the inconsistent AI level track to track, and in between game modes, I use those programmes to gauge the desired AI skill level in practice, but such a mission is impossible if we face inconsistencies on those too.

    Then you have the mid race game crashes on VR.. It's simply unplayable at this time for me.
  • ScarDuck14's avatar
    ScarDuck14
    Legend
    3 years ago

    @nangu22Just did Jeddah qualifying program wanted 7th I got. 1st. Come qualifying was even faster. Qualified 8th a second behind pole🤷‍♂️

    Also the ai difficulty point difference from Bahrain to Jeddah is about 10 points. Jeddah being the easier.  That’s so wrong. 

    This is what Codemasters do:  it’s what reviews and players  have always raved about. 

  • nangu22's avatar
    nangu22
    3 years ago
    @ScarDuck14 Yep, it's not consistent at all. I forgot to mention that on my programme at Baku, they wanted 15th as best result, and 19th as worst.

    I failed, so they predicted 20th as my expected Q position. I advanced to Q3 and got 10th with a similar lap time I did on that programme, go figure.
  • Meza994's avatar
    Meza994
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @ScarDuck14 Jeddah is difficult though with the track being far more forgiving for going on kerbs than it is IRL which leads to players attacking the corners much more than the AI do..

    But yes its a known problem that the AI is inconsistent especially at lower difficulties
  • ScarDuck14's avatar
    ScarDuck14
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @nangu22 What’s bizarre is race to race in last years game the ai would need abit off tweaking. But never once had a issue session to session. It’s was well balanced and worked as youd expect. How they managed to make it this unbalanced is perplexing.

    Only thought I have which is generally the issue. New coder(as in new to that department) not been properly briefed or just not familiar with how previous coder coded.

    Because theirs nothing substantially different between sessions compared with previous titles.
  • nangu22's avatar
    nangu22
    3 years ago
    @ScarDuck14 I'm not familiar with previous year's games, so I can't comment on that. Last game I bought was F1 2016, and I bought F1 22 because they added VR.

    My "conspirancy theory" is they didn't reworked the AI for this year new handling and physics models. May be they hoped last year AI code would work just modifying some values on the input parameters. We have this ugly unbalanced AI as a result.

    On another note about AI imbalance against the player, I noticed another "AI cheat" situation on my last 100% race at Baku I mentioned before.

    On the very first laps, I have to be very cautious at the two high speed turns sector before the main long straight. Full tank and semi cold mediums made this section of the track tricky to go full throttle without losing the rear end of the car, so I have to lift the throttle a little to negotiate those fast left/right turns without losing control.

    AI, in turn, fly past that section of the track full throttle, just like in Qualy, with supposedly full tank and even with supposedly cold HARD tyres.

    I feel cheated every time I start this game LOL

About F1® Franchise Discussion

Join other players talking about classic F1® games here.4,994 PostsLatest Activity: 17 hours ago