Using telemetry to refine setups

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@mariohomoh wrote:
@Monzstar83ooooooooh boy! This just got me all giddy!

Just post a screenshot of your interface so that I can see what sort of data you can visualize - and their formats. Or just tell me the app you're using, but that will have me google searching for images of its interface anyway 🙃

Do you have a routine or protocol already for creating setups? I mean your routine: what you set up first, what you look for on your first stint, etc.
Method is just as important as data here. No use adjusting differentials before nailing your wings.

It may take me a few hours to get back to your properly, busy day in the office today. But you've got me hooked already 💕

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@mariohomoh, thanks mate - knew this would get you excited 😊 

Honestly no rush - I have a feeling this will be a lengthy conversation.

I’m away from my tablet until tomorrow, but the app I use is called SRT (https://www.simracingtelemetry.com/index.html#home)

It has a load of data points, from the basics (throttle, brake, steering etc), and going as far as suspension travel and wheel speed - I’ll try to get a list and some screen grabs together.

With regards to my setup process, I start with a base setup which I developed from the standard balanced setup and go from there. I usually start with wings, then camber, suspension etc and finally tyre pressures. I generally go for balance over speed, and target balance first. I now have a bank of base setups for each track, which don’t differ from that base setup too much in mechanical areas (perhaps only a few clicks either side), apart from wings and tyre pressures.

I appreciate the help 👍🏽

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@ScarDuck14 wrote:
@mariohomohMega long posts incoming😁… Run for your lives😂

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It’s been a while since we had one - always full of useful information 👍🏽

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@ScarDuck14 wrote:
@Monzstar83I use marcel setup guide now as a base. Worth a look

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jquIq-orP2w

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@ScarDuck14, I’ve had a look at so many setups - I really struggle with the RRLL that almost everyone suggests when it comes to camber/toe. I just can’t get jiggy with it lol. I need me some camber and toe.

Hence I’ve developed my own base setup which I modified for each track. 

I personally don't use telemetry so much, even on other simulators like rFactor, iRacing or ACC.

The reason is because, many times, you can do a good setup using telemetry, but rarely will it show any possible glitch in the setup options.

Telemetry and the good use of telemetry will help you setup how theoretically the car is supposed to be setup, or it can help you understand if you have understeer or oversteer, mechanical or aerodynamically, but more often than not, it will not make you as fast as esport players for example.

At high level of esports competition, it is important to find the "glitch" or the way of setting up a car that "exploits" the physics model of the relative simulator in use.

In F1 game especially, there aren't enough settings to really justify the use of a telemetry software for the purpose of setting up or refine a setup of the car. I would rather use the telemetry to find out where I am making driving mistakes, and try to find how others interpret the track compared to myself.

@DavidGG53Funny you should say that.. Was just watching a YouTube video about buying setups for ACC(not that I’ve got it). The guy didn’t show the setup that he bought but just said it’s not a setup he would ever think off using and as you say it’s a setup they use the glitch.

I’ve always said just set the car up to what feels good and go with it.

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@ScarDuck14 wrote:

I’ve always said just set the car up to what feels good and go with it.

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This is usually my M.O. with set-ups as well.

Recently though, I’ve noticing things happening like inconsistent braking or sliding despite what I feel like are consistent inputs - so want to delve into the data a bit more. Also looking to optimise setups a bit more - like I’m sure I generally go for more camber/toe than needed.

Also, @ScarDuck14, (conspiracy theory alert relating to “noticing things”), I wonder if the game randomly throws in some less-effective braking/ grip issues etc…