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Nightbeat_BE's avatar
Nightbeat_BE
Seasoned Traveler
2 years ago

Re: Why people dont play rivals !

I only play rivals for evolution (and maybe 2 extra games if i'm 1 off from 7 wins). I'm in D7 and i don't want to get any higher than D6 max. Haven't even played Champions bar that 1 game that gave a reward in objectives a few months ago.

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  • Izzy_FUT_Dubs's avatar
    Izzy_FUT_Dubs
    Hero+
    2 years ago
    @Nightbeat_BE No good player is hanging around Div 6/7. These games will test you, because you'll get a lot of similarly skilled players, but it doesn't mean top tier players are hanging this low. I do agree with you though, that the further we climb the sweatier it become and a lot of us just want to be able to play without having to be hyper focused all the time. I also play, not to climb, but to enjoy the game and it's becoming frustrating to do so.
  • zaney-s's avatar
    zaney-s
    Seasoned Vanguard
    2 years ago
    @Izzy_FUT_Dubs well you are wrong there my friend because my friends and others who I've befriended on the game openly admit they lounge in low divisions for the very reason I've explained. I'm division 6 and can't win a game.
  • Because if i not host and the other guys have a delay problem then i have it too.

    How can u fix it, change your dns server take google or cloudfire.

    EA must fix this. Too many Players doesnt know it. So i play versus my friends with no Problems or aggression

  • LukeNuke3000D's avatar
    LukeNuke3000D
    2 years ago

    @Izzy_FUT_Dubs

    Stop telling him nonsense that there are no good players there.

    With the current broken mechanics, everyone plays the same with AI assistance.

    I'm a player of the first leagues of previous editions, and I'm struggling in 4/3 now. Half of the players from the 3-1 division would not have reached the 5th league in FIFA 23 on manual without the help of AI. You're writing nonsense, real pros have stopped playing it - now everyone goes to AI + preesing. Same players practically are onthe same level 4-1div with a stupid AI machine.

  • Izzy_FUT_Dubs's avatar
    Izzy_FUT_Dubs
    Hero+
    2 years ago
    @LukeNuke3000D Rewards have gotten a major overhaul, it pays to be higher up; you get better rewards. It used to be the case that people hung around low because rewards weren't that great to begin with. My brother's take this game much more seriously then I do (they're in div 1) and they get crazy pulls from rewards. They also play WL and average 16 wins a weekend and get tons of rewards for it.

    The pros don't like playing against each other. Lol
  • RadioShaqs's avatar
    RadioShaqs
    Hero
    2 years ago

    Rewards won’t fix it. If you get better rewards in top divisions it’s still always worth it to drop 123 or whatever it’s about time vs the reward. Being able to be in say d2 and not lose and be done faster for just a little bit less rewards it’s why people do it. 

    Now let’s say elite gets rewards way better than any other division. Then why even play if you are really d5 you will be so far behind and never be able to compete in friendlies or wl. 

    The only reward that would work is something like a cosmetic but really in this game people don’t care about cosmetics they want packs. 

  • LukeNuke3000D's avatar
    LukeNuke3000D
    2 years ago


    @Hero Izzy_FUT_Dubs

    Man, today I played one match vs gold 45% in Fut champs. The opponent's Marqinius scored from 20 meters. I won it on penalties. Blanc 92, Renard 95 couldn't position themselves, they fell down... Stop defending this *, it's a disaster... 0 tactics, 0 skills, 0 organization... Scrambling in the middle of the field + passing and running into position. This is the biggest joke in the history of this game. Its promotes nubs, a footballer's left foot and right foot mean nothing. Rugby in football.

    Delays in switching, delays in reactions, strange offsides... passes in other directions... you want more then stay as nub in the "champion" category and keep bulshiing ppl.

  • BGAlumFIFA's avatar
    BGAlumFIFA
    2 years ago

    The whole construct of the game is flawed. Championship should be based on your division. And then have better rewards in the Championship. That forces top players into the higher divisions. For better CL rewards. Sure they can stay in lower divisions for easier rewards and may dominate Champions… but will not have the top rewards.   For the worst community in all of gaming, the way it stands makes the game less enjoyable. My son keeps buying it though… 

  • RadioShaqs's avatar
    RadioShaqs
    Hero
    2 years ago

    Speaking of wl people even do it in wl to speed run it when they are low on time. Even the better rewards in wl doesn’t matter. 

  • Andyh60's avatar
    Andyh60
    Rising Scout
    2 years ago

    Like I say it should be just road to elite for everyone with no relegation if you play Say 50 70 or 90 games a season(assuming a 6 week season). Therefore yes if you are top notch you ll be there say in Oct Nov, good then Dec jan, ok then say Feb to April and perhaps if not good even by July anyone and everyone could then get to elite.  This assuming you play a minumum of games (season milestone equiv) and yes obviosuly respective wins as it is now but over time ahould be against not as good players.

  • RadioShaqs's avatar
    RadioShaqs
    Hero
    2 years ago

    How would you have matchmaking if everyone gets to elite besides a few new people or stragglers?

  • Andyh60's avatar
    Andyh60
    Rising Scout
    2 years ago

    Should be random anyway outside of rivals 

  • RadioShaqs's avatar
    RadioShaqs
    Hero
    2 years ago

    How would d10 players complete objectives or even win a wl game?

  • Andyh60's avatar
    Andyh60
    Rising Scout
    2 years ago

    If they've got to elite then by definition they aren't div10 players. WL nothing to do with rivals so not sure what you mean by that.

    Rivals total rubbish as it is and needs massive overhaul.

  • RadioShaqs's avatar
    RadioShaqs
    Hero
    2 years ago

    They would still be normal d10 players. If everyone in rivals can’t go back eventually everyone would make it at least to the top few because matchmaking would make it easier. Then when you finally get to elite as a d10 player you would never win again as now you are playing everyone better. Then they might as well not even play friendlies or wl. It would be terrible for them. 

    Also I dunno if you remember but the community asked ea to make it harder to move up and easier to drop back. The reason being people would get stuck playing to hard of opponents and quit the game. 

    ea listened and added less checkpoints and easier to drop back with shorter seasons. 

  • Andyh60's avatar
    Andyh60
    Rising Scout
    2 years ago

    But right now for the "average" player rivals is just meaningless get the 7 wins and that's it, try to go up and well gets to week 5 or 6 you know you're going back down again so is just pointless and not due to ability. At least before you would go down due to losses but not now, dont like a game then leave and get 7 wins as you wish. Hate it with a passion but say min to thurs there is nothing else to do on game so its hard to take. Just think my idea is the way forward overall.

  • RadioShaqs's avatar
    RadioShaqs
    Hero
    2 years ago

    You can play squad battles try to qualify for wl or if you just like rivals you can still play it for fun. Honestly to me there is to much to do already. At least they dropped down the 40 games from wl. 

    Forgot you can also do objective too much to remember lol. To top it off don’t forget all the sbcs and content. It’s overwhelming. 

  • Andyh60's avatar
    Andyh60
    Rising Scout
    2 years ago

    Agree 40 wl games was way too much and all was a bit crazy  a few years ago but then lockdown helped get through it. Now it just feels as dead as ever in terms of friendlies and objectives in general. rivals well said my bit on that but no dont say play sb, seriously! Yes play that purley for objectives and well bit of bonus xp. However main game mode should be rivals and its just dull as dishwater and never been a worst time for that/old online seasons. I mean how good would that mode be but no.

  • Leelongy73's avatar
    Leelongy73
    New Ace
    2 years ago

    Random observations from the last few weeks: 

    I've noticed that there's an increasing tendency that opponents use AI for defending and only play the game themselves when attacking. 

    There is an unusually high number of very skilled opponents playing in divisions 5 and 4. 

    The increased weekly rewards are welcome but surely Champs rewards should be increased accordingly - there's hardly anything ever worth getting if you're a player (as me and my son are) who typically get between 6 and 9 wins every weekend. 

  • Nightbeat_BE's avatar
    Nightbeat_BE
    Seasoned Traveler
    2 years ago

    Maybe get more player rewards for division rivals, but the one you get depends on which division you're in. For instance D10-D8 gets a 86 icon, D7-D5 gets a 88 icon, D4-1 gets a 90 icon and elite a +92 icon. Maybe that would make people want to get into higher divisions. But i doubt EA would do something like that, because god forbid you get good cards by playing.

  • SirCarbonara's avatar
    SirCarbonara
    Rising Veteran
    2 years ago

    Icons for free as div rivals rewards is impossible to imagine, EA want as to buy packs to get high quality players. I play div 7 to 5 (I progress during the season) and the rewards that I received for 7 victories are ridiciolous. From settembre i opened rivals packs week after week (did not miss one week of rewards) and in all of those packs - div rivals rewards i had got - NOTHING. Niente di niente. The only players worth sth I got from 5*84 pack, 10*83 and similar packs. Division rivals rewards are laughable. I play rivals for fun. And I know how it sounds - rivals and fun in one sentence. But i don’t give up, i change my team to 4321 - and it’s better. I play 57 depth not 71-72 and I manage to get to champs lately fairly easy (after 7 games - 4 wins) i just keep having faith that the gameplay and fun will return to this game. But if nothing changes i want play fc 25. SO EA it’s all in your hands.

    We all say that this game is played by toxic people, so Let’s not be toxic. After i won 4 games i gave away 3 victories for free. I could exit sooner with 0-0 score but i decided to be kind so maybe some other players will join.

  • jonas2173's avatar
    jonas2173
    Seasoned Vanguard
    2 years ago
    @SirCarbonara today i played Weekend leage qualify and im a div 5 player. im not very good and im not very bad either. 4 first games i met top top teams. then im talking about meta cards and they only abused all the mechanics that could get them easy goals. all game same.
    I can honestly say i think the game is bad but i think the majority of the playerbase is even worse. 2 first teams i met was 94 for rated, 94 RATED and im 88
  • SirCarbonara's avatar
    SirCarbonara
    Rising Veteran
    2 years ago
    @jonas2173 I hope you qualified for champs. My team now is really good I have to admit but still there are players that can beat my with much much worse teams. But i Discovery that the better my connection is the better is the gameplay and number of victories goes up.
  • Cam3131's avatar
    Cam3131
    2 years ago
    @Leelongy73 What you've mentioned about opponents using AI to defend for them is by far and large the biggest problem in this game, i'm amazed people aren't calling it out as much as they were a few months ago. It's al just broken custom tactics and auto defending
  • jonas2173's avatar
    jonas2173
    Seasoned Vanguard
    2 years ago
    @Cam3131 people are rarly calling out whats need to be said. How about the insane inconsistand gameplay that makes the people actualy use ai to do allmost everything for them at this game.. its so broken. 7-8 years ago you could actualy beat bad players with top tier teams simple by outplaying them in a fotball mather. now its more who have the meta team and are better at abusing glitches and broken tactics in the game. In the earlier days i only played manuel controlls but in this sheizehole of a game you just cant do it anymore

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