'Update' has ruined the game

I don’t know why so many like a pace game. Only a few years ago everyone complained about fullbacks as center backs and attackers as midfielders. Now we are back in a similar situation. The only reason you don’t see fullbacks at cb is we are late enough in the year cbs are almost hitting 99 pace with chem. 

I get easy offense and high scoring games it what sells games but you no longer need manual offense. It feels like a step backwards but ea has already said the majority like it and they won’t change it so I doubt we will see offense have a skill gap. 

I completely agree with you. IMO, the initial versions of this game were quite good. Even though they were not perfect, but at least I felt like playing football as you described: pass play, midfield battles, and tactics. 

I remember this game became more like a speed battle since TU6 (the first frost update). Suddenly, players started to skate, motions became weird and unnatural, pass became too accurate (players made a lot of mistakes so the good players were valuable in the initial versions), and so on.

Why EA repeatedly ruins its game although they released the first game very well? A promising hypothesis in my mind is that they are afraid of user feedback too much, and a few people who don't know about real football complain very much; I think they just want to score with speedstars like Mbappe, because they don't know how to score goals using passes and tactics like in the real world football games. 

To EA Sports, please remember the initial philosophy of EA FC 25. When you introduced FC IQ, you mentioned that understanding tactics make games much funnier. 

I constantly hear this nonsense that people don't like the gameplay after the update because they have to manually defend. I'm baffled by that, I think they mean using the analogue stick to control and position a player to close space or track a runner whilst pressing with AI players etc. I was doing that before this bloody "Refresh" garbage update.

They think this is why we don't enjoy the game. No, I don't enjoy it because it's gone from somewhat of a realistic, reasonable paced game to a ping pong, dumbed down, attack biased, arcade s* fest with no sense of simulation.

I stopped using things that added depth to the game, like manual switching defenders, shielding, triggering player runs, calling them short, slowing the game down then upping the tempo all adding variety and enjoyment in the gameplay because the game is so arcady and fast that you just naturally do the same s* every game because you can't play the game like a simulation anymore. 

I see videos of those on YouTube, that are enjoying this ping pong game now and I just see the same cringe gameplay, press, ping pong passing, cutbacks, biomechanics defying turns and every shot in the corner. No variety, no randomness, all the same boring football. Almost a scripted feel to their play style. They even say, you don't have to think when passing or shooting now - wow. How are they enjoying this? I don't think they are, they're enjoying the end result.

PS it's effected the whole game. Af least career mode which I play or used to play regularly. Even with the custom sliders, the game feels awful. Ball almost stuck to the players feet when dribbling, De Ligt turning like Zidane, shots going in from ridiculous angles and passing like prime Barcelona on steroids.

Hello, I completely agree with everything you wrote above. I played Efootball every year and I tried the FIFA-FC trial. That arcade pace, with no relation to football, did not convince me to make a purchase. On the contrary, this year when I tried the game's trial, it was like I was playing a different game compared to the ones I tried every year from the trial. EA had made a real effort to bring the game to a more simulation path. It was slow, dribbling was not so easy, offsides, difficult shots, small realistic scores, you had to think and have patience to score a goal. And after 2 years I left efootball and actually bought the game in September on PS5 immediately and enjoyed it for a long time until the updates came and ruined the game, they brought it back to its arcade era, with many scores, defenses being destroyed, dribbling passing easily, shots being scored easily, really again a terrible game that has nothing to do with real football. Unfortunately, I bought it digitally and not on disc so that I could not do the upgrades and play the 1st version but I want my money back because I bought one product and they offer me another now.... They say that many people prefer the latest updates, who are they here in this forum I see a different opinion. Who prefers it, kids and ultimate team players on YouTube? I know FIFA from a long time ago, I was an old division 1 player but at some point I didn't like the Arcade so after that I preferred it. I bought fC 25 this year again I am division 1 but I gave up on it and I say it so that no one comes out and says that I don't know about defense etc.. I don't care how many goals I score, I want to play a game that resembles real football and with the latest updates you ruined it and made it only for kids.

mikashakira

Spot on. It's almost a scam that EA are running. I didn't buy FIFA for 3 years because of this very reason where they made the gameplay more unrealistic after each update.

I am no legal expert and don't have the time to research but I might be tempted to see what the trading standards say when you sell customers one product and then change the core of that product significantly.

Luckily, I have the disc version so I have deleted the game and reinstalled and playing on the release patch which even with it's flaws is far better than this ping pong nonsense.

"majority like it" aka the loud ones who stream it. the masses hate it.

Its pure arcade football now, no point in spending money on defenders

Theese scamers just shadow patch the game.Good bye ea next year:))

Completely agree with you folks. It genuinely felt like a really solid game of football when I first tried it, was quite shocked since it had a fair bit of negative reviews. I am really shocked how much they have changed it and ruined it. It felt like the first really good football game since the old PES days. And since PES is long dead, and EA has decided to kill itself, guess its time to let it rest for a few years now.

I also have the digital version, so don't think I can downgrade it back to the version I bought.

I felt exactly the same and can’t agree more with you. The initial version of game was so realistic, but updates stole everything. I feel like being stolen and scammed. There is no way back to the version I truly enjoyed.

This never makes sense. EA must take the product back or provide a way for some users to rollback. I am sure that I could win EA in court if I sue them. Don’t scam anymore.

What we are playing is so different from what EA advertised.