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b7r4owv30dzg
Seasoned Veteran
2 months ago
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New rankup system is absurd. Need to go back.

New rankup system literally is absurd and poorly thought out in terms of users benefits

  1. My own ranked up players R of little value.  Earlier I could use them to rank card of same type.  Now they R mostly garbage.
  2. It stops the only way we could earn some decent coins in markets as we can't rank up a trade able card with untradeable.
  3. We need lot more points to rankup than URPs if we count the way a 100 rankup point is given for mascheranos 

I am really surprised nobody is angry at this sly handedness from EA. 

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    1. Disagree. It depends on what cards you have, if these are tradeable and how popular they are
    2. You can still make a lot of coin, you just need to be smarter with how you utilise the rank-up cards and what you invest in. It's harder, but it doesn't stop you from making coin. Rank-ups are not the only way to make coin, either.
    3. Yes and no. If you didn’t try your luck ranking up and spent the full amount, gold rank with URPs was 19 total (1 green, 1 blue, 2 purple, 5 red, 10 gold), making it 1900 ranks. All but the 110+ cards need fewer ranks to get to gold, see below.  The luck factor was removed, but it never worked for me past purples, so I am highly sceptical about it working robustly enough to save on URP's

       

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    1. Disagree. It depends on what cards you have, if these are tradeable and how popular they are
    2. You can still make a lot of coin, you just need to be smarter with how you utilise the rank-up cards and what you invest in. It's harder, but it doesn't stop you from making coin. Rank-ups are not the only way to make coin, either.
    3. Yes and no. If you didn’t try your luck ranking up and spent the full amount, gold rank with URPs was 19 total (1 green, 1 blue, 2 purple, 5 red, 10 gold), making it 1900 ranks. All but the 110+ cards need fewer ranks to get to gold, see below.  The luck factor was removed, but it never worked for me past purples, so I am highly sceptical about it working robustly enough to save on URP's

       

  • b7r4owv30dzg's avatar
    b7r4owv30dzg
    Seasoned Veteran
    2 months ago

    Curious to know what other means u have of making coins mate rather than saying being clever.. if u r refering to swiping for a newly released card good luck 🤞 Almost all cards released recently are downward trending except a few blips.  Buy a card, rank him up and hold till the event ends, let's see how much profit(loss) one makes.

    I was talking about using untradeable cards for rankups and making them count.  Aren't they garbage now?  What use they have than throw in some exchanges?

    Reg rankups costing more - Thanks for the rank up chart but tbh I don't see many trying to rank up low ovr cards than 110.  So now u need 21 mascheranos equivalent for a 110+.. note that it's a ovr game if u want to be competitive.

    I don't even get what u r trying to defend mate.. so according to you new rankup system is great and you r making loads of coins.. good luck then, u r a lucky bloke truly. 

  • dzrtr's avatar
    dzrtr
    Hero
    2 months ago

    Not defending anything. its my take on the rank ups and benefits of it (except for the fact its harder to get them now as some "URP gold mines" giving Mascherano's away like a candy have been removed and a fact training got made a lot more expensive since you cant cheaply rank up 70's to greens).

     It's just how many people in my league are playing (and people in my Discord server). The only luck factor is what OVR cards you get, but having a plan for what to do with your "pack luck" or lack of one, has nothing to do with luck itself. Most days you get garbage like everyone. Anyway, it's about understanding the game and not falling for the stupid OVR chase. Play your game, not someone else’s. OVR only matters in VSA. It means nothing in H2H or MM. MM is just random and not worth caring about. It is a mode that gives out free resources.

    So the group I mentioned above, we mostly stick to keeping our lineups themed. I only claim cards that fit the criteria (Icon or Hero, ideally a favorite player from the past). I also have Juve, Barca, Serie A, Bundesliga and La Liga themed squads using Icons only. I ignore the currently active players. I skip events if there’s nothing of interest to me, other than bare autoplay to get a minimum top OVR Icon that fits the criteria mentioned and to keep the league competitive so we can reach 100 ranks.

    I rank up cards only when I know I will keep the card or if I can make serious coin on it. Some of the 109s are very good meta cards for H2H. 109 Gullit is still a god in midfield. Even the two new Zidanes, 111 and 113, are nowhere near him when it comes to dominating the game in the centre of the park. I claimed the Ragnarok one, then somehow got the BdOr on day two. So yes, that was extremely lucky, but it also gives me insight into two highly sought after cards where 109 card is far better than 113...... (so they play next to each other haha). Some other older cards still hold value. Zambrotta 108, an ancient card, is still worth the same coins I paid for it months ago. Previous BdOr Cruyff or Stoichkov are still absolutely magic cards in H2H (and were not cheap but still attract decent coin).

    One of the lads in my Discord server is sitting on 100bn by just playing the market since gameplay is broken at the moment. Sniping new cards is one way, along with finding trends, waves and so on. A limit to the ranks in my opinion will actually stabilize the market. Until last week, many prices were washed out within a day or so where your unranked card ended up being more expensive than a red or gold ranked up one. There will also be other demand driven by limited ranks as well as the introduction of badges.

    The untradeable cards you speak of would mostly be high 90s, meaning you can exchange them for tokens and get some tradeables back or use the shards elsewhere. Low 90s go into rank exchanges. Anything under 90 OVR is just training fodder now since they are worthless anyway.

    So yeah, as I said at the start, a lot of it is understanding the game and making the most of it despite its current shortfalls.

  • b7r4owv30dzg's avatar
    b7r4owv30dzg
    Seasoned Veteran
    2 months ago

    I think the point is whether you support the new rankup system as it is Or not.  I am not getting a straight answer mate and not sure why mendozzamagic marked it as a solution.   The guy barely answers except when to defend EA or say he has passed feedback and then you don't hear anything in that thread.  

    If you don't want to use latest ovrs or players that's a choice and I respect that.  And I have my own ways to adapt to adverse changes just like every one of us try to do.  I am just trying to call a spade a spade and you guys just drown it out with verbose neither here nor there stance.

    P.s. My point is it just made things worse with the latest system of rank up than it was previously.  The only thing that's better is you don't have to hold the cards as part of your 1200 limit but that's barely a problem for people like us.

  • bozc077qq2h2's avatar
    bozc077qq2h2
    Rising Adventurer
    2 months ago

    **bleep** you **bleep**! Why did you mark as a solution my post? Are you locking EAs **bleep**? Gago! 

  • b7r4owv30dzg's avatar
    b7r4owv30dzg
    Seasoned Veteran
    2 months ago

    That's my post mate, not urs, probably you misunderstood.  Ranting is fine but let's not get into abusing or cursing.  We can be civil and still discuss what we agree/disagree on.  Understand you r vexed with EA just like me but solutions are not formed out of anger

  • dzrtr's avatar
    dzrtr
    Hero
    2 months ago

    b7r4owv30dzg​ Fair enough, i still think its a step forward, not backwards, it needs some tuning tho.

    The amount of high end cards you'd like to or could  use in rankups is negligible from what Ive seen which in my eyes is 1 URP then, 100 ranks now. Much of muchness when you need ~2K to gold it up (without gambling under 10 URP). As I said it makes training harder or rather more expensive. What annoys me the most its the scarcity of ranking points, which is really the crux of the matter here, but as I said the coin is to be made in many ways, not by flipping ranked up cards, also ranked up cards hold more value than before, closer to amount of ranking points spent.

    It will force you to choose, use ranks on flipping or ranking up your new cards so thats the real issue for you it seems.

    You need to ask MM to tell you why he solved it, perhaps it looked like your query has been answered. But keep in mind hes a volunteer helping the community (he had a banner on old EA forums stating that) so probably can escalate up but id imagine that its EA staff that probably needs to make official comments. 

    bozc077qq2h2​ - not even your thread why are you moaning about it being solved? Wash your mouth with a soap then sit in the corner and let grown ups talk.

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