Liam..
The poor guy, so many seem to not like him. So what I want to know is who out there does like him and what you like about him.. Haters can stay away please! Just Liam positive here. One thread in wh...
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@holger1405 wrote:Keep it civil guys, Liam is a interesting subject to discuses, I would hate it to close this thread because the discussion goes below the belt.
"lol" is not exactly a grown up form of response. You have every right to have an different opinion about Liam as @Nykara360 has, (As I have too.) but do not attack him personally just because of that.
How is saying lol a personal attack? And how do you determine it to be "not grown up" or "grown up" - seriously, are you the vocabulary police? Did you write a book on the correct usage of acronyms? Did you write a second book about which age I can use said acronyms at? I've been on the internet for almost 20 years - putting lol in a post is second nature, even if nothing is funny - I don't even think about the fact I'm doing it. Sorry I'm "not grown up enough" for you - maybe you should wash the attempted personal attacks out of your message before calling out other people's. I don't care how many stars or what rank you have, you aren't God and you certainly don't get to decide how people use language online.
I also don't really consider it a personal attack, what I wrote - I compared OPs visible fondness to another dislikeable character to the current conversation, but whatever - I'll back down from that point if it's insulting you - but don't try to insult me for using 'lol' and call it a "non grown up response"... Like a comment that unfounded bears any weight anywhere but in your imagination. I'm just going to invalidate everything you say because you put "lol." "You wrote "lol" so you can't have a grown up argument." I'm sure plenty of other people habitually write lol - especially when they can't get over the people they're arguing with and their absurd statements like:
"The Civilians on said ships are still allowed to do their own thing in off-duty times and don't have to run to the captain constantly for every little thing. "
Not true at all OP - when you're ON a ship, even on off-duty times - you still obey the captain. Last I Checked, Liam is living on a couch in our ship - meaning he's under OUR rules the whole time. Even if he wasn't - treason isn't "every little thing" - I honestly don't know where you're from - but I'm pretty sure most governments irl on Earth would have prosecuted Liam on multiple counts of treason lol
Also you still gonna ignore his war crimes and body desecration on Habitat 7? Really just polarizing to the alleged "nice", "cool headed" and "rational" Bioware would have you believe he is. Liam is a hot mess in a Disney character's body.
Because he's just a bad character - you would have to force yourself to like him and purposely ignore all his flaws lol.... which OP does by putting blinds over their eyes "no haters allowed."
Than again... I don't expect much from somebody who's avatar is Cassandra lol.... probably the most intolerant, and thereby intolerable character in Inquisition lol... Ashley Williams clone. Seems OP feels some sort of connection to moronic and thick headed characters, for whatever reason. Muh "I hate mages."
This is pretty much the definition of taking a personal shot at someone just because you disagree with them. You just said that @Nykara360 is massively self-delusional because she is intolerant, intolerable, moronic, thick headed, and probably hateful to boot. I don't think English is @holger1405's primary language, so I'm going to try and restate the lol comment: "it is childish to assume that adding lol to abusive comments makes them "OK"". If you go up to a coworker and start laying on the F-bombs with a few lols thrown in you will still wind up dealing with HR/some knuckles, and no one will care about the lols. Also, you've been on the internet for 20 years, that makes you an adult. Don't go on a 2 paragraph rant because you are asked to behave like one.
ANYWAY, back on topic...
"The Civilians on said ships are still allowed to do their own thing in off-duty times and don't have to run to the captain constantly for every little thing. "
Not true at all OP - when you're ON a ship, even on off-duty times - you still obey the captain. Last I Checked, Liam is living on a couch in our ship - meaning he's under OUR rules the whole time. Even if he wasn't - treason isn't "every little thing" - I honestly don't know where you're from - but I'm pretty sure most governments irl on Earth would have prosecuted Liam on multiple counts of treason lol
Also you still gonna ignore his war crimes and body desecration on Habitat 7? Really just polarizing to the alleged "nice", "cool headed" and "rational" Bioware would have you believe he is. Liam is a hot mess in a Disney character's body.
To be fair to Liam, IIRC Ryder never specifically forbids Liam from doing what he is doing, at least until Liam's loyalty mission. Nevertheless, if he didn't have a Ryder-shaped shield to hide behind he'd be long gone by the end of the game (given the other people Ryder has unilaterally exiled I'm surprised that wasn't an option here). Honestly, he might be more fun as an exile.
Not sure what war crimes Liam committed on Habitat 7, although he won't stop shooting the last Kett to go down, which is a classic monster movie survival tactic, as well as, IIRC, a relatively common battlefield occurrence relating to shell shock/tunnel vision
@fudgietroll wrote:Because he's just a bad character - you would have to force yourself to like him and purposely ignore all his flaws lol.... which OP does by putting blinds over their eyes "no haters allowed."
Than again... I don't expect much from somebody who's avatar is Cassandra lol.... probably the most intolerant, and thereby intolerable character in Inquisition lol... Ashley Williams clone. Seems OP feels some sort of connection to moronic and thick headed characters, for whatever reason. Muh "I hate mages."This is pretty much the definition of taking a personal shot at someone just because you disagree with them. You just said that @Nykara360 is massively self-delusional because she is intolerant, intolerable, moronic, thick headed, and probably hateful to boot. I don't think English is @holger1405's primary language, so I'm going to try and restate the lol comment: "it is childish to assume that adding lol to abusive comments makes them "OK"". If you go up to a coworker and start laying on the F-bombs with a few lols thrown in you will still wind up dealing with HR/some knuckles, and no one will care about the lols. Also, you've been on the internet for 20 years, that makes you an adult. Don't go on a 2 paragraph rant because you are asked to behave like one.
ANYWAY, back on topic...
"The Civilians on said ships are still allowed to do their own thing in off-duty times and don't have to run to the captain constantly for every little thing. "
Not true at all OP - when you're ON a ship, even on off-duty times - you still obey the captain. Last I Checked, Liam is living on a couch in our ship - meaning he's under OUR rules the whole time. Even if he wasn't - treason isn't "every little thing" - I honestly don't know where you're from - but I'm pretty sure most governments irl on Earth would have prosecuted Liam on multiple counts of treason lol
Also you still gonna ignore his war crimes and body desecration on Habitat 7? Really just polarizing to the alleged "nice", "cool headed" and "rational" Bioware would have you believe he is. Liam is a hot mess in a Disney character's body.To be fair to Liam, IIRC Ryder never specifically forbids Liam from doing what he is doing, at least until Liam's loyalty mission. Nevertheless, if he didn't have a Ryder-shaped shield to hide behind he'd be long gone by the end of the game (given the other people Ryder has unilaterally exiled I'm surprised that wasn't an option here). Honestly, he might be more fun as an exile.
Not sure what war crimes Liam committed on Habitat 7, although he won't stop shooting the last Kett to go down, which is a classic monster movie survival tactic, as well as, IIRC, a relatively common battlefield occurrence relating to shell shock/tunnel vision
That loyalty mission- all Liam said was he gave the Angara some nexus nav points. They never even said what nav points, or how bad it really was. People could be making a huge deal out of nothing. Did he give the nav points for the outposts so they could go visit? Something you wouldn't want enemies to have but for allies is fine? It was never even specified beyond a few nexus nav points. With Liam's tendency to over react when things don’t go right, it was probably not even a big deal.
