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9 years ago

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Never been this angry at a game...

Never in my life have I come so close to losing my cool completely over a game. Never.

I'd written this game off a long time ago. Just too clunky compared to newer titles.

I decided...what the heck. I'll redownload it and play it one more time because I've never been able to get the Geth and Quarian fleet together because I always keep Tali happy by not exposing her father's crimes.

The whole point of this game was to keep Tali from being exiled...which means exposing her father...which means losing her loyalty.

OK...fine. Let her be mad at me if I can get my big fleet later in ME3.

Well...guess who died on the Suicide Mission...yep. Tali is dead and 18 hours of my life is wasted and gone forever.

Godammit anyway game. WTF?

Oh yeah...Legion is dead too but that doesn't really matter in the long run but seriously...uuuhhhgggg!!!

This is a rant and a plea for help...after losing Tali's loyalty...what do I do to keep her alive?

Fred_vdp
9 years ago
@mckrackin5324 wrote:
The whole point of this game was to keep Tali from being exiled...which means exposing her father...which means losing her loyalty.

That's inaccurate. You can keep Tali from being exiled without exposing her father. Here are two ways to do that:

You need a high enough paragon or renegade score to convince the admirals that there's not enough evidence to convict Tali.

OR; Make sure you don't send Veetor to Cerberus and be sure to keep Kal'Reegar alive in Tali's recruitment mission. If you rally the crowd during the trial, they'll come to Tali's aid.

If you don't want to go this far back, then it's stil perfectly possible to get a disloyal Tali out of the suicide mission alive.

In the phase where you fight the boss, the characters staying behind have to add up to an adequate defensive score. Otherwise, characters start dying, with disloyal characters being prioritized.

An example of a perfect suicide mission run in your case (assuming only Tali is disloyal):

Fire team leader: Garrus, Miranda or Jacob

Tech expert: If you have the DLC, pick Kasumi. Tali and Legion are ineligible in your playthrough since they are not loyal.

Crew escort: Someone with a low defensive score, like Mordin, Jack or Kasumi

Biotic expert: Samara / Morinth, or Jack

Final boss squad: Two loyal characters with a low defensive score, like Mordin, Jack and Kasumi

There's a flow chart that could help here: http://i.imgur.com/n4QCEnA.jpg

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holger1405
Hero+
9 years ago
@mckrackin5324

mckrackin5324 wrote:
I kept Tali from being exiled and rewrote the Geth.

There was no conflict between the two in this case.

There is a conflict between Tali and Legion in ME2 and you need to solve this conflict with a Paragon or Reneged option to get the 1 point you need.
mckrackin5324
9 years ago
@holger1405 wrote:

@mckrackin5324

mckrackin5324 wrote:
I kept Tali from being exiled and rewrote the Geth.

There was no conflict between the two in this case.

There is a conflict between Tali and Legion in ME2 and you need to solve this conflict with a Paragon or Reneged option to get the 1 point you need.

There was no conflict.

I waited and waited. It never happened.

I kept Tali from being exiled. She is an admiral in ME3.

I rewrote the Heretics.

I did all the missions.

I saved the admiral over his troops.

My reputation is 100% maxed out...slightly more Paragon than Renegade.

The reputation option are not greyed out...they just aren't there.

I just tried it again and chose the upload right off the bat...same outcome.

I appreciate all the replies.

I'm frustrated as hell with this game design though.

All outcomes should be possible within the single game and one game should never delete content from another in the series.
holger1405
Hero+
9 years ago
@mckrackin5324

@mckrackin5324 wrote:

There was no conflict.

I waited and waited. It never happened.

I kept Tali from being exiled. She is an admiral in ME3.

I rewrote the Heretics.

If there was no conflict then there is a glitch in your game. You need at least 3 Points out of ME2 to be able to make peace, and you only got 2 by preventing Tali from being exiled.

So your only option is to use the editor.

If you have questions about how to, feel free to ask.
Fred_vdp
Hero+
9 years ago
FYI, Answers HQ is a first and foremost a tech support forum. If you want to discuss gameplay and strategy, you'll probably get more in-depth answers on the unofficial BioWare forum (the official forum is closing down): http://bsn.boards.net/
mckrackin5324
9 years ago
@Fred_vdp wrote:

FYI, Answers HQ is a first and foremost a tech support forum. If you want to discuss gameplay and strategy, you'll probably get more in-depth answers on the unofficial BioWare forum (the official forum is closing down): http://bsn.boards.net/

Thanks.

I still think this is a technical issue since there was no conflict between Tali and Legion but hey....

At any rate,I used that save editor and at first it didn't work...I've killed that reaper 7 times today. hahahaha

I even changed gender to make sure it was working...it was.

I made Tali and Legion loyal but the Quarians died anyway.

So I went further back and killed off the Heretics and that worked.

I finally got my big fleet and Tali back in my squad. All is right in the world...except the cheating part. lol
mckrackin5324
9 years ago
That save editor has a hilarious side effect....

I went ahead and checked the box to romance Tali but the game still recognizes my relationship with Miranda so I got the full romance with both and didn't break up with anybody. hahaha

Of course...being the game breaker that I am...I wondered what would happen if I romanced Traynor as a male...It works but Shepard doesn't talk. Just sub titles because Spec. Traynor is a * only affair and no male actor has ever read for it. Hahaha...But yeah...I got her nekkid as a dude 😉

EDIT...Seriously? Les....bian is on the profanity filter?