Impossible to get gold on all Prestige events!!!
please change the time requirements for gold its impossible to do!
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Are you serious EA_Tom?
Have you even played the DLC? If it was just dependent on difficulty i wouldnt even have written a comment a couple of weeks ago.
The biggest problem with the game/DLC is the random spawns and im sorry to say 'stupid' things that occur during the race. Most noticeable are the random spawns of traffic. There are 2 problems with this, they miraculously spawn right in front of you in order for you to crash into and stop your run and/or increase spawn rate if you are on a really good run.
Also introduce a restart race feature even if cops are on your tail it is just stupid at this point that you have to evade them just to have another attempt.
In essence the game has to be more consistent in order for us completionists to have at least a decent time attempting these. I only attempted the first race to this point and got it Gold but after trying for abt 3 hrs. However, i would have gotten it much quicker if it wasnt for the issues mentioned above.
At least if you dont want to update times, at least make it realistic and more consistent in terms of traffic and cops. dont leave random spawns etc just for it to be a cheap way of making it harder.
Gran turismo trophies and license times for gold are way harder than NFS games but at least GT is consistent in control and doesnt feature random stuff happening during a run so that makes it enjoyable and addicting to try and achieve.
This is NOT. it is just an exercise in frustration.
And im sorry to say that i have played and completed every bloody NFS game to date and always enjoyed them. But after this stunt I am very sad that i will not be able to enjoy any more NFS games because i will be damned if i purchase another game after this treatment.
Matthew
EA_Toms response...lmao.....oh my god.
I think EA_Tom has single handed just lost EA a ton of sale, you're blatent lack of care is horrendous, and you should be ashamed of yourself. The hottest topic in this forum for weeks, and your professional response, is practice? I don't even know what to say.
That's like saying.....here build this Lego, but there's 10 parts missing, but keep practicing, and it may happen..........EA_Tom you live on another planet, and are a disgrace to EA.....yes, even more of a disgrace than they already are.
The guys that have done it....all 2 of them in the world on XBOX, have even stated this is horrendous!!
One of the guys even stated it caused him massive stress and frustration. It's barely possible to drive in this game due to the broken physics......EA your a disgrace. I'm done with this company. They never did care about the end user.....they live in their own little bubble.
Straatford87DICE Team
I am not here to ban players, but I do not appreciate being called a sadist, please refrain from such comments in the future. You are however free to voice passionate opinions about the game. Just don't make them personal.
If you fully read my previous replies then you would know that all player feedback has long since been forwarded to the team.
Nothing has really changed about the gameplay other than the difficulty of a very specific set of challenges. If you were interested in the game before then I am sure you will still like it.
We do care for our players, but we also believe in a challenge. However, as stated earlier, the doors are not closed for lowering the requirements in the future.
Consistency is definitely something we can look at!
In my previous replies I did state that we are still open to changing the challenges in the future. However, we also want to give the opportunity to hardcore players to have a real go at them in their current state.
I can't say that I agree with your Lego comparison though as we do have the parts available. Lastly, no one said that being at the top of gaming isn't stressful. It certainly is!
Once again, since for some reason this keeps getting ignored: we are still open to changing the difficulty of these challenges, just not at this moment.
@Straatford87 I've had this before from EA. Last time I was promised a fix to a game (several times over several months) in the end EA changed their mind and left it broken. After several more months complaining I found a local EA employee who agreed with me and sent compensation for the months of empty promises. At this stage if EA is not fixing it now their is almost zero chance in the future as the focus will move to other games and the cost of changing, testing and deploying would be too high.
Your comment about giving challenges to hardcore NFS gamers I agree with, they will enjoy the challenge. What I don't agree with is adding them to trophies which many non hardcore NFS gamers are interested in. Why not add a platinum time requirement that challenges the hardcore NFS gamers and reward them with something they would care about like different car or graphic for their favourite cars - these gamers don't really care about the trophy. Then link the trophy to a challenging (but slightly more reasonable) gold time.
It would be interesting to see if the people that end up getting this trophy are predominantly trophy hunters who persisted to achieve the trophy or hardcore NFS gamers with limited 100% games. If its the former the difficulty is too high for even hardcore gamers to be interested in attempting it.
I didn;t wanted back but can't be silence when those asnwered appear. Sorry that i can't hold my word.
I will try clearly explain why we I mean both community Xbox and PS are angry. This is very simple. In past in short time was few examples why people asked for help never got this. Like I said was example, Battlefield, Fifa and even appear example from Xbox about Need For Speed Carbon. Ok but let peace those issue but people will remember about those situation. That's why people propably really wanted trust You that this will be fixed but those examples and action hold about it.
About Need For Speed. Tom topic was created since beginning Prestige Mode so all played this. I still playing trying do this but can't say that this fun because is not. I also love challenge but reasonable challenge this is not reasonable. Also I would like admit that was solution to do hardcoore challenge like right now is for fans and give him additional cars, customization etc because for them will be prestige and a lot people who want challenge do this for this car. Those solution and others got here but instead do something Studio announced that this was last update. Last update means don't do patch, fix problems and etc. Even when everybody read because I still read and keep in my mind Your words but this hard believe because announced news about doing new Need For Speed and announced that this was last update is hard believe people. That's why people still write here because can't agree with this. I also can't agree with this.
About current situation and opinion EA this really Your chance bring back Your good reputation and really consider this what I write right now. This topic unfortunatelly don't reflect good You like company. We are not here to raise hate, bad opinion about this company but we are here to write problems and present few solutions and raise Your good reputation but can't be situation like this is. Like I said this situation is above me because I am not one who is angry and can't agree with this situation but a lot people.
About You like person. I don't have nothing against You and respect You. I haven't to agree but always respect second person. This is also a message to both community. Please guys I know that situation have a lot controversy but please respect this guys. We are all human and nobody deserve read "monkey of EA", "sadist" etc. Guys calm down because we can write our opinion but critic someone who don't know how is in real life is totally not fair. So calm down and write only opinion. Beside this one of the guy who should more respect than others because he at least answered us so it means that this guys suit for this job .
Also Tom. Still read about future. Can i know propably when this will be fixed? Because right now all what I know is no more update to Need For Speed.
Zera
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In my previous replies I did state that we are still open to changing the challenges in the future. However, we also want to give the opportunity to hardcore players to have a real go at them in their current state.
I can't say that I agree with your Lego comparison though as we do have the parts available. Lastly, no one said that being at the top of gaming isn't stressful. It certainly is!
Once again, since for some reason this keeps getting ignored: we are still open to changing the difficulty of these challenges, just not at this moment.
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@Straatford87 When I first got the game, I wasn't happy with the handling at all, and all the amount of tuning in the world doesn't change that, it makes it worse, or slightly better. I spent hours upon hours just trying to find a well balanced vehicle that was actually drivable.....I settled on the Aventador, it was the only vehicle in the game, with some tuning that I could actually control to a degree. My 100% completion consisted of me bouncing off the walls and getting lucky, the game was pretty easy anyways, but I never had control fully of the vehicle. When you guys released that Ken Block car and the achievement for drifting (dont remember the DLC name) It took me a week to get it done, as the car was horrific. It was still doable though. The entire handling system is nothing like I have played before, it's insanely off, from what an arcade racer should be.
This is where my Lego comparison comes in, the tools you have given us are extremely flawed, it's impossible for many standard players, and pro players to drive clean in this game, this is just the handling here, before getting into the AI / Online / Cops issues.....Driving a clean lap in itself is a battle, let alone at full speed to nail these golds. I know you work for EA, so in your eyes the game handles amazing, but the community disagrees, the handling in this game is extremely awful. We are battling against elements that shouldn't even be a factor. The tools are broken!
Now if you say were keeping them for the elite, and then changing down the line, and if I believe that...I know many wont agree, but I am fine with that, and I look forward to the change. However, this is EA we are talking about, you have already said updated for this game are done with, and announced a new game already. History proves that EA wont change this at all. So I apologize Tom, but I have a hard time believing you, and I feel your job in this thread is to just silent us with hope, when in reality, you know full well nothing will be done...why? Because this is EA.
EA, the dev that pumps out yearly games, and moves on, the end user has always come last priority to EA....hence why you get all the hate online, and have done for a long while now. You never cared about patching past sports games with unobtainable achievements, why will this be any different? I want to believe you EA_Tom, but being honest with you...I don't.
I don't think EA realises just how many customers they have lost due to Speedlists DLC, the achievement/trophy community is in the millions, and I myself have been amazed at the community backlash on this DLC, I am proud of my community for reacting this way to EA and speaking up. I doubt anything will change on EA's end, as again I feel Toms job is basically to shut us up and hope we forget and move on, but that wont happen as our community is very passionate, and we will always remember. The fact so many people agree with us is great, as IT WILL reflect on NFS 2017 sales unless this is patched...if it is never patched, then it's going to be a sad day the day NFS2017 comes out. This isn't even taking into account how bad the core NFS2015 actually was anyways, the fact it was dedicated to old school fans and still ended up a mess.
True Trophies / PS Trophies / XBOXAchievements / TrueAchievements and the other sheer amount of communities out there, we are very proud you have reacted so negatively to EA, they need to learn.
"Once again, since for some reason this keeps getting ignored: we are still open to changing the difficulty of these challenges, just not at this moment."
I really want to believe you, but I can't. EA announced to focus on the next NFS. That's it. No more support for this game, EA has to drop yearly games like a machine. Other developer support their community for months or years with free or buyable content or patches. They listen to their community. Maybe EA is also doing this, but there won't be any changing. like in many other games in the past years.
Just not at this moment... but WHEN? In six months? We need your help now, please! Sure, some player already completed this challenge. 20? 30? It doen't matter, only a very very small number of players. The elite. But all the other trophyhunter with perfect accounts are not able to finish this. It's to hard, even with hours of practice.
Sorry for my english, I did not pay attention in english class in school, I played a wonderful game NFS Underground. This was more fun 🙂
Yeah, don't change it. Bury Need for Speed in a hole so deep no one can find it back again.
I'm already personally responsible for at least 2 lost sales during the last discount the game had on X-Box Live. Two friends came to me asking if I would recommend the game and I told them about the last DLC, how not fun it is to even try for those achievements, how the issue is being ignored by the team (saying you are still open to change it in a near future is not what I call answering the issue, it's just a way to wait for complains to die out).
You wanna make this fair, don't change the medals, change the achievement. Make getting gold on all events getting gold on ONE event. Leave the bronze achievement, it's still a challenge for 99% of the players and this could be at least fun to try. Gold simply isn't.
Take note of other games that realized they had gone too far. Killer Instinct and the 2000 matches per fighter that was changed to 200 matches. Watch Dogs and the drinking game that was nerfed (I did this one before the nerf and I was not pissed by it being changed, it simply wasn't fun to try and achievements should always be fun). All those games only gained from the changes, that showed people the team was hearing the community and shaping things in the game to make it more fun.
