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Bigtimetimjim wrote:We’re talking about basic features that were already in NHL over a decade ago, ran fine, and made the experience better.
What features? My dude - you need to understand that in order for ChatGPT to provide a response that has some substance, you need to prompt it properly. You're just saying platitudes like "realism needs to be brought back" and "they just need to change their entire business model". These statements mean nothing without actual examples of exactly what you mean.
Bigtimetimjim wrote:just bring back the core features that made past games great
like what? provide some actual examples instead of word salad from ChatGPT.
Bigtimetimjim wrote:But if it’s really good and you want to keep playing, most people would keep their subscription going year after year
Again with this "If the game was good, people would buy it". Like.. my guy... please understand the vagueness of these statements makes them drip with insincerity.
Bigtimetimjim wrote:it is just a fail safe for EA to roll out a better, higher quality game with many more feature missing and for players to continue subscribing if it is worth it.
How?! Please provide an actual specific example of how a 12-month development cycle would differ under a subscription model. You haven't laid out any specifics other than "if they made the game great, people would subscribe"
Here is a great example of what EA NHL was to what EA NHL is now. This shows that they have removed and revamped the same mode for years. This content was there prior and in a large part the older version (revamp) offers so much more then the new (revamp) of this mode.
The fact that a game from 2012 can outperform a mode in content and to some degree presentation is depressing on some many levels. This is their major selling point for NHL 26 and they can't even keep up with one of their own trailers.
(175) NHL 26 - Be A Pro Deep Dive - YouTube
The basis that they run on yearly games does not work anymore. I don't think a subscription based game would be ideal either but something does need to change for the better as this business model does not work for the game overall. It went from being a "AAA" title winning awards to a "AA" that barely survives a year with content or sustainable gameplay.
- KidShowtime18672 months agoHero
MasterB89 wrote:
The fact that a game from 2012 can outperform a mode in content and to some degree
You're not forced to play NHL 26. You can go back and play NHL 12 if you truly and honestly believe that BAP mode is far more feature rich than the mode coming out in '26.
MasterB89 wrote:
This is their major selling point for NHL 26 and they can't even keep up with one of their own trailers.
No it's not. It is part of a list of features such as Ice-Q 2.0 (I'm very interested to see the ai adjustments here), a refresh of the X-Factor system and new HUT seasons - the details of which are still unknown.
That said, I am personally quite disappointed in this year's lineup of 'new' features. I'm not an offline guy at all - so the BAP updates don't do much for me. HUT is a cash-cow I don't like supporting, so those updates don't excite me either. Not a single mention of any changes to World of Chel, so chances are - we're getting minimal updates there in terms of features, customization, etc.
What does have me excited are the gameplay changes. Having played the beta, the noticeable gameplay difference had me looking forward to playing the final release.
I'm still holding out hope there's some kind of online element being added to franchise mode (a la GM Connected) in some kind of post-release feature update, but that hope is fading daily.
Bigtimetimjim wrote:
this kind of stuff could all be added in one offseason if EA wanted to
Please stop acting as if EA is refusing to add features because they don't want to. If you don't fully understand the complexity of game development, you shouldn't be commenting on the work ethic of those who do.
Bigtimetimjim wrote:
it’s insane that the depth, weight, and realism of a true NHL simulation keeps getting ignored.
Again with the AI-Generated slop responses. You need to realize most people can see right through these posts. They're filled with empty platitudes that mean nothing because you haven't prompted the AI with enough information to appear knowledgeable about the basic features of the game.
- BigTimeTimJim2 months agoNew Hotshot
KidShowtime1867 there really is no good reason to be a **bleep** on my thread. Keep defending EA as if they give you a paycheck. Keep acting like the community is wrong by shaming them and harassing them for asking for basic features to be returned to the game. Such a good little EA HERO you are
- KlariskraysNHL2 months agoHero+
Kid isn't really wrong on most of his takes. He's been around forever and you just know how things are done when it comes to the NHL franchise. And this dates back to the old old forums when a dev by the name of Redshirt had posted. They aim for the NHL series to be around 80% real hockey with 20% arcade mixed in(talking about gameplay). So what happens is that arcade part just sticks out so much more and usually angers people.
I mean look at how presentation has been since making the jump to the Xbox and PS4 upwards. The presentation you have all asked for year after year still hasn't come and instead they have added their own takes on presentation. I I do understand all of your passion for it and they know it too, but who knows when they will truly jump back into that route.
Overall if you stick around for years you will see the routine the series has taken and it should give you an idea of what to expect or not expect.
- MasterB892 months agoSeasoned Ace
This I agree with you on. They are not forcing me to play NHL 25.5, which I will not be playing and staying with NHL 25. If you took the time to watch both trailers you would understand my perspective, but to each their own.
These 4 items are being used as their main selling points - also to this, there was only 2 deep dives. The gameplay/xfactor one and the Be a Pro one - unless you can show me another one. This would determine it being one of the main selling points (as its the only offline mode change for the year - thus this is their push to try and get sales from the offline playerbase) or it would not been listed here or given its own deep dive.
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