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3 click is way too easy to hit perfects. Another thing with 3 click you can hit 110% over swing. On true swing you are lucky if you can manage a 104% over swing. True swing is only 2.2% on up swing then you have to move stick lighting fast on downswing to get another 3%. lame! Too easy to power your drives on 3 click! And no option to turn it of in private.
@TriumphRider wrote:
I enjoy this game even if it infuriates me at times. I haven't even played career mode or H2H. Been grinding the challenges.It might be that focusing on challenges is making you find the dispersion zone mechanic a bit more frustrating than you would just playing more normal rounds? I think it feels more natural in normal gameplay but will be more apparent when more artificially trying to repeatedly do the same thing.
On the pro stats front that were mentioned above bear in mind that the pros vary quite a bit - you can see their stats easily going into Quick Play mode and scrolling between them. I'd look much more at their skill trees that the level number, which doesn't really tell us much just as it doesn't for players.
My natural reaction is to want no random element whatsoever by the way but the game developers clearly made the decision to make this a core part of the gameplay mechanic, with the skill point, shot type and spec elements all having part of their effects by changing this. I'll also say that while we see the dispersion zones we don't see the statistical distribution of where the ball is likely to land. As far as I can tell it's heavily weighted towards the centre of the zone when shots are hit well. Overall my personal take is that while there is some uncertainty to shot outcome it is what I do that still overwhelmingly determines how well I score and so I am still able to enjoy the game for what it is.
For context I'm currently level 35 and only have one low level spec I won the last weekly pro tournament. I do though favour lower dispersion shot types and have heavily favoured accuracy and control stats when using skill points to give me the best ability to put the ball where I want. I've spent very few points on power and so haven't unlocked the power drive or power approach but suspect I wouldn't use them much even if I had due to the higher dispersion.
In private matches you presumably know who you're playing with so it's up to you to agree what you all do.
More generally I believe 3-click has deliberately been kept separate in some game modes precisely as it will be easier. Especially vs players using the angled swing plane mechanic for draw/fade.
Personally I really don't see the appeal of 3-clck. The earliest golf games I played used this but a swinging movement via an analogue stick just makes me feel some much more engaged with the process and at least mirrors some of the elements of hitting an actual golf shot.
I'm a 3-clicker and have played Perfect Golf from Perfect Parallel frm the beginning on PC with the keyboard.
When EA Sports PGA Tour I came out I played it with the keyboard because there was no 3-click swing and I have no controller.
I really liked the animation and the feeling of the swing meter.
The only thing destracting me was the fingerbreaking use of the POS1 and END key to make a shot.
When the update 2 came out with the 3-click I was not happy with the swing meter and I really miss the nice swing animation from before.
Is it possible to realise a 3-click swing with the swing animation of the controller swing?
And if yes is it possible to change the keyboard input to a mouse input?
- @Ultrasonic_77 Well, I enjoy the challenges and the rewards are decent. I actually don't pay a lot of attention to the dispersion zones...simply put, it seems as though when we talk about a shot, there are like 20 different factors so it's an endless loop of well "well it could be(s)". At some point that has to stop, because it's not just a 1 time thing, it's repetitive. As I have repeatedly mentioned, there are a lot of complaints in this forum, and I get examples from vids are good, but we kind of have to stop saying "oh it's 1 of these 100 things you should check". That, in and of itself, is absurd after a certain point...and that point has past, died,shriveled up, and fossilized. It's implying there is nothing wrong with the game and it's "always" player error. I agree that it can be both but this game is definitely flawed...hence patches.
What system do you happen to play on, I'm just curious. Do you know if tourney leader boards are just for the platform the person is on or does it show all platforms? Because a 21 under in an 18 hole pro or tour tourney is ridiculous. I'm not claiming cheating, although it has to be possible, but some of the score, I see are ridiculous.
I'm about to post some putts, let me know what you think...because you should already know what I think. Hahaha. Just saying i can hit my driver a extra 20+ yards with 3 click and doing draws and fades are way too easy, Just rename 3 click to baby setting
- @Ultrasonic_77 Check these out...these are from an arcade tourney.
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/EVWLXL97DL
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/RGBHYLW8J3
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/YZ78R5DCKK
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/24XHDZ4MUX
Regardless of tourney type, mode of play, etc...ball physics, putt reads, green grids, etc SHOULD ALWAYS BE CONSISTENT. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but those are mine. CONSISTENCY makes a great game, regardless of how hard or easy it is.
All of these examples (regardless of the putt being made or not) has something wrong in them. Usually it's the way the ball reacts. In one of them I made the damn put but on the way to the hole the ball literally shimmies back and forth...in what damn world does that ever happen to a super slow putt???
The reads are astronomically off in some of them too. Like absurdly. Please, OH GOD PLEASE, do not mention the infinitesimal degree of ball lie...because in the 100,000 other putts I have accomplished it never mattered.
So...if you watch these and don't think ANYTHING is wrong...well let's agree to disagree, and go our separate ways, hahaha.
@TriumphRider wrote:
....I actually don't pay a lot of attention to the dispersion zones...I think you may find your experience with the game improves dramatically if you do 🙂. Just cycle through the shot types and look at this and you'll see the differences can be huge. When I'm aiming shots I factor this range in too
I believe the tournament mode leaderboards are platform specific. I play on PS5 and see scores from YouTubers I know play on PS5 near the top but haven't for example seen the same leaderboards I've see pictures of shared here (I think from PC).
I play on Tour difficulty outside of the tournaments, where I do the daily arcade and pro tournaments and last week did the three weekly tournaments. I am not a top player though! To give you an honest idea, on the daily pro tournaments I generally finish roughly 50/50 in WR or ER, just having a single go. I finished 522nd in last weeks weekly Tour difficulty tournament around Harbour Town with my one attempt but haven't done this week's yet. Not that how good/bad I am is relevant to anything 🙂.
You do seem to be slightly misinterpreting my posts by the way. Please don't take my replies to somehow mean I think the game is unquestionably perfect as I don't!
- @TriumphRider Putting is a totally separate discussion to at least everything I've said above. I don't think there is any equivalent to the dispersion zone in play for putting although I'm open to being corrected.
I'll be honest and say I'm not 100% sure what you're trying to demonstrate with your videos though, so mark me down as however clueless you feel is appropriate 🙂. I'll be curious to see what anyone else thinks.