absolutely disgraceful

@TomAndAvaThe last great EA Golf Game was TW14. After Update 3.0, the issues with the gameplay and physics for current PGA Tour has given me a much larger adrenaline rush than drinking 5 red bulls and 5 dunkin donuts coffees. Even though 2K23 is no TW14, it is a much better game than current EA PGA Tour. You would not regret trading in current game for 2K23. I am actually enjoying 2K23 more. The EA games that I am enjoying are EA FC 24, UFC 5 and NHL 24 since they are made with better quality.

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@TomAndAva wrote:

Ive Played Every Golf Game Put Out By EA ,Going Back As Far  As The Mega Drive And I Have To Say They Were Good Games .I Loved The Tiger Woods Series ,As Far As I Was Concerned EA Were The Best . When Road The The Masters Was Announced I Was Over The Moon ,And Could Not Wait For The Release Date. The First Disappointment Was It Was Not Been Released For The PS4 .So I Bought A PS5 ...Not Cheap. I Then Payed £62 For The Game The Day It Came Out . I Dont Really Need To Explain What Was Wrong With The Game, Because Everybody Knows ....My Gripe Is This , After The Patch 8 ,We Lost The Mini Scoreboard In Career Mode .The Alternative , Foresomes ,And Best Ball Modes Are Now Not Working Properly , Players Are Taking The Wrong Shots And Playing Out Of Turn. And The Wind On Career Mode Is Completly Off Kilter Compared With The Tiger Woods Games .  Another Thing What Bugs Me Is The Fact ...EA  DOES NOT LISTEN OR RESPOND THE THE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THIS GAME. I Wanted To Play This Game With My Son Using Two Created Players Which You Were Able To Do In Every Tiger Woods Game , But Not In This Game ???. The Graphics Are Great , But The Gameplay Needs Dealt With Sooner Rather Than Later. I'm Going To Sell This Game Tomorrow And Buy 2k23 .I Feel Thoroughly Let Down By EA , I Feel They Are Getting Our Money Under False Pretence. When You Spend £62 On A Game You Expect It To Work Pro

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EA have just released WRC Rally (Nov 3rd).

It has crossplay, everything appears to be in working order from gameplay to menus working properly and a good range of features, all of which appear to be in good order.

If EA PGA Tour 2023 was half as good as WRC, it would be 10 times better than it is now.

And you are right, EA, apparently, are not listening or this game would already have taken big strides since release. It hasn't. Personally, I don't think they particularly care about the golf franchise any more and I wonder why they even bothered with this release.

I don't really understand all the baching on the game. I agree with the fact that the game need some update but for me I never experience any big problem with the game. The gameplay is really good, the graphic make this game the better golf game on the market. You said that EA doesn't listen player but everything is a business. The game was not a big succes story and it wasn't suppose to be because it's sad but the golf is not the main sport and the amount of golf player who also play video game are very small. 

Ea with an obviously smaller budget than its other sports games, managed to provide us with the best golf game on the market, with graphics that explode those of 2k and gameplay that receives controversial opinions but which for me is really superior and more realistic than 2K. 

They also succeeded despite the low sales of the game, providing us with regular updates with magnificent new terrains and certain features requested by the communities, obviously there remain several problems to be resolved, but we must understand that in the current state of the game success of the game I wouldn't be surprised if the game development team is reduced to 2-3 guys.

I am an extremely passionate golf player and like everyone else I would always like more from this game, but you have to remain realistic and appreciate what EA has delivered to us.

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@Mickstudio1308 wrote:

I don't really understand all the baching on the game. I agree with the fact that the game need some update but for me I never experience any big problem with the game. The gameplay is really good, the graphic make this game the better golf game on the market. You said that EA doesn't listen player but everything is a business. The game was not a big succes story and it wasn't suppose to be because it's sad but the golf is not the main sport and the amount of golf player who also play video game are very small. 

Ea with an obviously smaller budget than its other sports games, managed to provide us with the best golf game on the market, with graphics that explode those of 2k and gameplay that receives controversial opinions but which for me is really superior and more realistic than 2K. 

They also succeeded despite the low sales of the game, providing us with regular updates with magnificent new terrains and certain features requested by the communities, obviously there remain several problems to be resolved, but we must understand that in the current state of the game success of the game I wouldn't be surprised if the game development team is reduced to 2-3 guys.

I am an extremely passionate golf player and like everyone else I would always like more from this game, but you have to remain realistic and appreciate what EA has delivered to us.

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I have to totally disagree with about 90% of what you wrote. 

In life we are held to a standard of what we have done in the past. It may not always be a fair expectation in life, but it is what is expected of us.

I personally did not like any of the previous EA Golf games in their series but many did. This game falls well short of that measuring stick, in both gameplay and features. This is truly a disappointment since not only did they have a framework to start with but nearly a decade to see what others have done since.

The only thing this game improved on was the graphics, which should have been a given since they developed it on nextgen consoles only.

But even at that, are these truly nextgen graphics....? Have you seen what the lastest games on the Unreal engine look like?

Yes this is a smaller demographic than Madden... but obviously they saw enough potential profits in the genre to take a calculated risk. 

It's not enough to just put out an offering... you are catering to a mature audience with a golf title rather than a bunch of adolescents.

"The gameplay is really good"

The game is fun but the gameplay is miles away from being  like real golf. 

Several major fundamental issues still exist with this game (which have been previously well documented and I cant be 'arrised mentioning yet again) and these haven't been addressed by the developers and they seem unable or unwilling to fix them. 

Probably why there is next to nobody playing the game these days.

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@Mickstudio1308 wrote:

I don't really understand all the baching on the game. I agree with the fact that the game need some update but for me I never experience any big problem with the game. The gameplay is really good, the graphic make this game the better golf game on the market. You said that EA doesn't listen player but everything is a business. The game was not a big succes story and it wasn't suppose to be because it's sad but the golf is not the main sport and the amount of golf player who also play video game are very small. 

Ea with an obviously smaller budget than its other sports games, managed to provide us with the best golf game on the market, with graphics that explode those of 2k and gameplay that receives controversial opinions but which for me is really superior and more realistic than 2K. 

They also succeeded despite the low sales of the game, providing us with regular updates with magnificent new terrains and certain features requested by the communities, obviously there remain several problems to be resolved, but we must understand that in the current state of the game success of the game I wouldn't be surprised if the game development team is reduced to 2-3 guys.

I am an extremely passionate golf player and like everyone else I would always like more from this game, but you have to remain realistic and appreciate what EA has delivered to us.

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Essentially, it appears EA thought they could release an updated "Rory McIllroy PGA Tour", with Augusta added, and assume it would sell. I frankly dismiss the "smaller budget" conversation when it had to cost a boatload of money to retain/re-obtain the Masters/Augusta license, not to mention the Ryder Cup, Official World Golf Rankings, all the clubs/gear brands, etc.

The shot types sounded cool at first, but it's basically made the game become "use the meta shot types to go low", no matter what difficulty you play on. I use about as "sim" settings as you can, and have to have AI difficulty in career mode cranked to 95, and still have to manually limit my skills and specs to make the game competitive.

Anyway, there are still major issues/confusing decisions that just make me shake my head:

- career mode leaderboards shown between holes no longer show the previous hole completed, like they used to.

- challenges still hang up and freeze, preventing you from getting all sponsor gear, unless you change AI players' outfits and get lucky enough that they do load?

- the ball still gets moved around for no reason; I hit a shot to 10 feet away from the cup, ball on the green, at TPC Boston Hole 2...but my putt magically moved to within 5 feet???
- why do we still have a triple bogey limit?

- cup physics are all over the place...I have had some cool lip-outs, and then some interactions between ball and cup that put this game in an alternate universe where physics don't exist

- AI opponents, despite devs saying that they fixed short-game issues, still hit the ball across greens on chip shots and pitches. They also still hit -20% drives on par-5s for reasons unknown.

- the store has not had really any new items added to it since before the Ryder Cup update...and most of the solid Nike shirts that do cycle in there are bugged and look terrible.

- crossplay, anyone? Otherwise, I don't even bother with online because it's silly how they do it and it takes a while to even find a match.

I still play this game for daily tournaments and a career mode round or two, but it's lost its long-term appeal when they basically said that there'd be no more content added and they'd work on "fixing things"...and then didn't actually fix anything in the previous bigger patch (not this hotfix that came out yesterday). In fact, it was quite the opposite, as more things got broken - namely, the career mode in-game scoreboard.

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@sroel908 wrote:

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..and most of the solid Nike shirts that do cycle in there are bugged and look terrible.

 

... but it's lost its long-term appeal when they basically said that there'd be no more content added and they'd work on "fixing things"

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I saw someone reporting his Nike shirt in the bugs reports. Maybe there's hope there as a dev will see this as something not working as intended. I've got a feeling the one or two dev working to fix this game are reading just the bug reports at this point. Maybe there's hope for the mini-leaderboard as it has been reported too.

And I doubt they're reading General Discussion at this point as it's just customers venting their frustration on how they think the game should be played.  Or contents that should be in the game and won't be because there's no more resources working on the game for this. Aside of the next pro-pass and the upcoming Santa's theme of course.

And now more things are broken again. No star for challenges and quests are totally broken, not getting credit for anything.

I especially hate when I make a perfect swing and sometimes it goes straight while other times it goes left or right. It’s like a game of chance due to the shot dispersion rather than rewarding a good swing every time consistently. Punish me if I’m off but not when I’m dead straight on the swing.

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@Randizzle1 wrote:

I especially hate when I make a perfect swing and sometimes it goes straight while other times it goes left or right. It’s like a game of chance due to the shot dispersion rather than rewarding a good swing every time consistently. Punish me if I’m off but not when I’m dead straight on the swing.

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One of my many main complaints I have been trying to get across to people about the game from day one. You should never be punished for making a good shot. A little RNG is fine, or just make the swing path a little more sensitive to input.

There is also something seriously wrong with the ball physics where there is a serious drop off between a 6-iron and 5-iron or lower where roll out is concerned. And the ball seems to roll further through the fairway than the green. 

I have never played in England, be does the ball really roll out another 100+ yards after hitting the fairway?

Yet when putting the ball stops rather abruptly like it is rolling on a shag carpet. There is something very wrong with the putting mechanics besides what is happening around the cup. Putting should be velocity based... I am not sure how it works in EA... but it just does not feel right. Don't get me wrong... I make more than my share of putts, it just doesn't feel right. 2K23 has done a pretty good job with both the putting mechanics and how the ball should react on the greens IMHO.

I could go on and on... be we would just be rehashing old topics this community has been trying to get addressed since April.

I will admit it was not a terrible distraction when the title released but it never felt like a playing golf. It was sort of like pickle ball to tennis. Not to offend pickle ball players, but it just isn't the same thing.