Community Discussion On Chipping and Putting

As long as there is no obstruction in the way, you should be forced to putt 

Chipping on the greens shouldn’t be allowed. Period

Whilst we’re here please fix the situations where the ball goes “over the hole” . I’ve had so many putts that either should have lipped out/in

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@agentputt wrote:

As long as there is no obstruction in the way, you should be forced to putt 

Chipping on the greens shouldn’t be allowed. Period

Whilst we’re here please fix the situations where the ball goes “over the hole” . I’ve had so many putts that either should have lipped out/in

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A couple of questions, not to be argumentative, but simply to try and understand the lines of thoughts in this thread and others. Anybody can feel free to pitch in, because I genuinely do want to try and understand from the point of view of others. 

As I've already declared in a post above, I don't (mostly can't) play the online competitive stuff as I'm limited to keyboard and 3 click style, so it's career mode and stroke play for me, and therefore I probably don't understand what many of you might consider important re the putting being 'enforced' on the green.

(Regarding competitive, I play the 4 hole arcade here and there, but nothing more. Yesterday I managed a whopping 2 under, yay me, lol.) 

My major concern here is that whatever happens to one part of the game, may be brought into other parts. I've found a relaxing game that I can play semi-comfortably, and I want to be able to keep playing. I'll admit to having the selfish line of thought, that as long as they leave career mode alone other than to fix the bugs, I'll be happy enough.   

So if career was left as is, for the current discussion, that makes me no more the interested observer in truth, if it is about the online game. I do like to ask questions, and try to understand though...

Which leads me to ask, if people do something other than pull out the putter on the green, how does it affect you or others? Is it causing a disadvantage to you or others that people who might otherwise not play, happen to be here but they play differently? 

I get it if there's a very good reason to weaken it in the weekly or monthly non-arcade stuff, if it gives an unfair advantage somehow, but even then, if it's allowed under PGA style play, wouldn't it be better to leave it in the game? Make it less accurate or whatever, to reflect more of the reality of how things might be when a pro-golfer makes a similar shot by all means, but I don't understand the need to remove things simply to limit any other players options. 

In my case, I always try to stick with the attitude of disability doesn't have to mean total inability, so I normally I do try to putt, but I will occasionally pitch if it's one of those long shots on a fast green with lots of direction changes or bumps, where there are 20 yards or more to cover. At least a pitch shot gets me somewhere close to the hole in those situations. (Also, that was something that I picked up on when doing the challenges, so it's very much a condoned method of play.) 

My preference is to land slightly short of the green, rather than pitching while on the green though, as at least then I have the full range of short game shots to get me much closer to the hole and hold the green, so I can try and putt in. Sometimes a mis-aim occurs though, and a ball rolls on to the green. That's time to pitch for me, or I can watch yet another multiple bogey get added to the stats. 

Why can't others be allowed to play their own style, so long as it's not an illegitimate method under the PGA rules? 

When I look at things overall, does it seem that some people want the game making harder? I would guess so, by the number of limit/remove or 'make it harder' type comments that are seen over one thing or another, but in some cases, it feels that what is being called for is that the game should become an elitist sim players club, whether intentionally or not... ☹️ 

Why is the chipping attribute part of the putting skills ?

Surely you’d think it would be part of short game?

I think the simple answer is to just make better approach shots . No one would be worrying about chipping from anywhere on the green if they hit a better approach shot. Landing on a sloped green is just part of the game and so if everyone is allowed to chip on the green….everyone will just forget about putting in general in any type of competition. Ea, don’t forget that players use legal exploits like this to get ahead of everyone else . I’m not saying anyone here does that, but we all know the reality of gaming.   

"Ea, don’t forget that players use legal exploits like this to get ahead of everyone else" It's only an exploit if there using it to get around the rules. There are no rules saying you cant chip on the green. If you don't like it because is somebody is chipping on the green don't play them or better yet chip with them. See if it bug's them?

I found out you could chip on greens by reading this thread!! Lol 

I only play in Career mode and I am actually happy to know that some of the impossible putts I have faced that turned into three or four putt holes because of that can be avoided.  It actually came up in the first round I played after this revelation. 

I have no opinion on the Online Tournaments but please don’t take this out of Career mode or other solo play modes if possible. 

 @ couturemk so you’re telling me that you’re defending this because it makes it easier for you to play the game as unintended. Why even have a putter instead of just a magical chipping club?   I’m sure when racing became a thing, everyone would just run across the track and say they won by crossing the finish line 1st? I think you see my point here . No offense, but allowing everyone to chip and get higher tournaments scores than everyone else that actually uses a putter isn’t good for a video game .  After all this is a video game forum 

For anybody who considers this an exploit, you do realise it's actually condoned as a form of play during the challenges, right? 

Have a look at the caddie tip for the challenge: Spotlights / EA / Path of Least Resistance. 

It's got very few and far between uses, even for myself with my limited depth perception, but it is legitimate as a form of play.

It's something to pull out of the bag when facing a long distance across a long fast undulating green after the shot dispersion decides to have its fun... Why land a multiple bogey, when I can still save par? 

Also, interesting point to note, there is no rule in R&A, PGA / LPGA etc (which are what this game is modelled on after-all) that prevents the use of clubs other than a putter on the green. Local clubs can make their own code of conduct, but under PGA rules, there is no reason not to chip or pitch. 

@Noya_WesaI’m trying to edit my post while you’ve already responded and I’m sorry for that I should just be working now tbough . Anyway, my point wasn’t to insult you or anyone else I’m just saying that I’m not sure they intended for us to avoid the horrendous greens by chipping.