@agentputt wrote:
Easy 80k coins for this week
Well yes but that's because you'll be a 'Winner' in everything you enter 🙂. By definition of the finishing position categories, the vast majority will earn a lot less than this, and with tournaments many also run the risk of players making a net loss if they finish too low. Even on the pay-to-enter dailies people who finish in the bottom 25% make a net loss (since tickets can be bought for 1000 reward points). This is a lot of players.
Over time my guess is the average standard in each level will increase, with those finishing in the bottom 25% with any regularity stopping playing them. Then players that were previously outside this group will fall into it, and the process will repeat itself.
Personally I think the risk of losing out by entering tournaments is too high currently and will harm long-term participation.
I've just been having another look at the tournament situation and it's actually worse than I thought for most players.
'Tickets' can be bought for 1000 Reward Points each in the shop. Across all of the daily tournaments where you can win Tickets, the bottom 75% only get 1 ticket per 1000 Reward Points paid as entry fee, or worse fewer or even none. For 75% of players we can therefore view the entry costs to the weekly and seasonal tournaments to be at least 1000 Rewards Points per Ticket the entrance costs. To win more than this a player needs to finish as follows in each tournament:
Weekly Arcade: top 35%.
Weekly Pro: top 40%.
Weekly Tour: top 40%.
Weekly Sim: top 40%.
Seasonal Arcade: top 20%.
Seasonal Pro: top 25%.
Seasonal Tour: top 30%.
Overall this means that for most players (comfortably >50%) they'd be better off not playing tournaments at all and just using the reward points earned from the free daily tournaments to buy specs or cosmetic items they want. Not a sustainable model IMHO.
@Ultrasonic_77 wrote:I've just been having another look at the tournament situation and it's actually worse than I thought for most players.
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Overall this means that for most players (comfortably >50%) they'd be better off not playing tournaments at all and just using the reward points earned from the free daily tournaments to buy specs or cosmetic items they want. Not a sustainable model IMHO.
I came to this realization as I was exploring the tournaments more - I just started playing a few weeks ago.
I've been getting better at the game, consistently place in the top 2 ranks for pro/arcade, and crush career mode on tour difficulty - will be upgrading to simulation in year 2. But the payout risk just isn't worth it for the weekly/seasonal tourney's, and because of the entry fee vs. risk, in addition to the lower player count in the more expensive tourneys, it's smarter not to play. And that sucks.
I'm sure they don't care, as there will always be whales and frustrated gamblers to drop big bucks, but creating negative monetary scenarios like that actually disincentivizes me from spending anything beyond sticker price and limits the time I spend with the game.
well as mentioned Daily tournaments usually reward no more then 500. Weekly relies on spending points and based on what i heard, all you get is tickets. same thing with career. i'm getting like 775 every 4 rounds. and challenges were easy at first but lately they make it tougher. "get 3 balls on the green" hits 3, and they slide off the green to the fringe or fairway. "get the ball to at least 5 feet of the hole" ends up more like 15 or 20 every try. "make 3 putts" miss every one. so that;s no way to get points. That;s why i think every quick round should reward points too.
oh I've been playing the game. had it since early April. i pre-ordered it so i can play it like a couple of days early. if yu recall, EA Golf Games in the past used to make all your skills at 100% in everything. They even had cheat codes so you can obtain the maxed out clubs so you play at 200% but anyway i've been playing Career and i won a few so far. hwever Torrey Pines was tough and ddn;t won it. i ended up in 2nd with -5 while 1st place was -6. remembeer this game is supposed to make it easy or hard as you want to play it so given that, it's pretty much good reason to let us have easier ways to get the things we want. But it's cool though.
I know. it should be as easy or hard as you want. if that;s how you want to play it dfine. however if you want to up the diffuculty, you can do that too. but playing the game the way i am now, it could take months before you get the points you need to get stuff. so that;s why i say it should be easier.
By far the easiest solution for them would be to reward coins alongside tickets
@blue4eva77 The point is, the challenges do not work. They give me the stars but no rewards. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the way you put your skill points in or how good you are. Steam starts when I start my computer, and this morning the game downloaded and installed a big patch. So hopefully the sponsor & other challenges are fixed, so you do not have to depend on the lousy rewards you now get in the tournaments, in order to make some money to spend in the store. I'll report back later. lol
Glenn
I agree with ultrasonic77. Unless you rank in the top 25% you either get your money back or take a loss. Same with tickets you enter weekly or seasonal tournies. For example you do a daily for 2000, I normally get elite ranked or ranked. Elite ranked you would get 4 tickets, ranked 2 tickets. You put those into weekly or seasonal events and I win the same amount as I put into it. I know some people will say get better which I have a lot but I’ve now reached a good level and struggling to improve further. I get good scores (average -15 on 18 holes) but it’s always the same people on the leaderboards are getting -23 on 18 holes! Whenever I look at the leaderboard it’s always the same people smashing it. What’s the incentive for average-good players like myself. Unless you’re a demon at the game tournaments are pointless and a waste of time which is disappointing. On 2k pga you can join online societies and bet your currency, it’s a pity online on this game is absolutely pointless.
Their are a lot of issues with the game. They need to get the game up to a level where it is challenging and enjoyable for all types of players, in order to grow the community. This would also mean creating some sort of community based feature in the game, like their previous Country Clubs. And an expansion of their multiplayer features that allow players to lockdown their own features, rather than just the presets given.
But maybe most important to keep the current community playing... to have handicap tournaments along with the current open ones. Where lower ranked players are competing with those at their own skill levels.
Elf they are some good suggestions you make. When I wrote my message I only thought there was one page on this topic but can now see there’s a lot of other people with the same problem. For example i sweated for an hour on the daily all 18 pro tourney 4000 coins at banff. Got a -17 which I was really happy with tied 87 in the world but only got ranked as it was set at 25-75% and got 4 tickets. I could have literally just bought the 4 tickets and saved myself an hour. The highest score was -24! That’s every birdie and eagle obtained which is just crazy. Surpirse surpirse all the same people top of the leaderboard. They need to do something as it’s really putting me off doing them anymore now. I’m half way through my first season on career, done a lot of the challenges and can’t see myself playing much longer when I’ve completed my career. 2k pga is free on PlayStation next month, some of my mates don’t have a ps5 yet so we can’t play with them so we will be jumping on 2k with them. If it’s good and more rewarding can’t see myself coming back much at all which is shame.
@ELF014 Funnily enough I played a lot of 2k21 which I enjoyed a lot. Got used to the tempo parameter pretty quickly but found it to be quite unforgiving at times. The main gripe I had with the game was multiplayer. There would quite often be more than four of us wanting to play and it was maximum four players so we would have to play online society which was good but took away from the experience of playing live with friends. I think I read before that it’s the same for 2k23 unfortunately. Playing fan made courses was pretty cool. Looking forward to trying it out.
@RJellis11 wrote:@ELF014 Funnily enough I played a lot of 2k21 which I enjoyed a lot. Got used to the tempo parameter pretty quickly but found it to be quite unforgiving at times. The main gripe I had with the game was multiplayer. There would quite often be more than four of us wanting to play and it was maximum four players so we would have to play online society which was good but took away from the experience of playing live with friends. I think I read before that it’s the same for 2k23 unfortunately. Playing fan made courses was pretty cool. Looking forward to trying it out.
I wasn't aware that you had played 2K21. In that case I think the biggest thing you have to deal with are the faster greens.
Unfortunately the limit is still 4-somes.
@RJellis11I would not waste VC on daily tournaments that give tickets since the rewards can be nerfed and time is wasted. I would rather buy the tickets with points from Xbox store and use them for weekly and seasonal tournaments. I still see the same guys on the leaderboard with -23 to -24. Getting elite to world rank will still give coins without wasting them on tickets. The only issue once you obtain coins is purchasing specs you want because it can take weeks or months when they become available in the store. 2k21 or 2k23 does not have this issue.
