Guys please, revert. This update on putting is terrible. Additionally, the lip-outs are terrible. I've got 100 matches under my belt on this IP to learn the game and just getting a handle on it. I've played Amateur and Pro settings on TW since 2006, I'm not a new player.
Like I said earlier...
I just think this conversation needs to be focused around fixing the actual problem.
Hitting a putt with some extra pace to cut down on break is something you often see professionals do IRL and is something you were able to do in-game.
I want these to lip-out instead of fall in if your ball truly does roll on the edge of the cup.
When they are within the range of the cup speed should not matter unless you went crazy with the power. For example, adding 3 feet of extra power on a level putt from 6 feet away should never just roll over the cup if you place it correctly.
This should be the main focus of what we want them to address because the additions of lip-outs and ring around and in's has been painful and also a great realistic addition to the game.
@martbloke wrote:
@JGWentworthsNot in the slightest am I trolling or being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.
Like agentputt, give examples of what you're seeing happen. Otherwise you say x% overswing or perfect and x happens means nothing. No one knows where you're placing your marker to say, "Hey, yeah you've placed the marker exactly where you should and that outcome is BS." You're saying you are putting the marker exactly where it should and the ball is blasting passed the hole without any context on where you're placing your marker. Ergo one will think you are NOT placing you marker where it should be.
I don't give a damn how long you played EA golf games for. A newbie to EA golf can tell you what seems correct and what not. He k a newbie can blow some very experienced players out the water. Who says they're newbies to gaming in general? Your comment was about this franchise. Who says they actually play proper sim golf on other golf games and irl and know better than someone who's played EA games for decades? Your point of being experienced in EA games is irrelevant to whatever issue you are raising and speaks volumes when that's all your basing it on rather than actual specifics of the issue to report to EA. You my friend are looking more like an EA troll than I am. Want something looked at or fixed by EA, show them what's wrong rather than leave them guessing. Pretty simple request.’m not showing the world my system. I’m extremely competitive and knowledge is power. I don’t need YOU to validate me and don’t care about what you think will help or not. You’re not a dev and a dev knows what I’m talking about
I’m not showing the world my system. I’m extremely competitive and knowledge is power. I don’t need YOU to validate me and don’t care about what you think will help or not. You’re not a dev and a dev knows what I’m talking about. Additionally, no matter what I post video wise, you’re the type of troll that will argue it’s improper. I’ve worked with devs, you haven’t. You don’t need video for them to understand. Jesus Christ…
@Sneakler wrote:
@JGWentworthsYou're an expert on the topic...wow that was funny I can't stop laughing.
What if someone has been playing since 2006 and disagrees with you?
What a ridiculous thing to cite time played as expertise on a topic or subject.
Describe your issue, I think the new mechanic is closer to real life then before where I made 99% of my putts within 10-15 feet.
I have noticed a few times where I felt I was screwed over when I believed it should have dropped but for the most part I welcome the change as lip-outs and burned edges are very common IRL.
It’s not just my time experience, it’s my time being ranked top 5 and having hundreds of wins and a hand full of losses every single year. That means nothing right? Lmao. I am a bonafide, verified, non-pasteurized expert. Get your levels up kid and read ALL of my content before you talk out of the side of your neck.
@iglooman__TW wrote:
@SneaklerNo, when you lose your lead in a very tightly contested online match due to a ridiculous center cup putt that would have rolled 1 foot past the hole if the hole wasn't there, you'll understand.
Exactly. When two talented players are hitting every birdy + eagle and you miss a putt to a borked mechanic and end up losing it sucks because the code it ripping a win from you.
noticed a lot of lip-outs today along with quite a few that lipped around the cup
and stayed out. got to be something to do with this last update
you fella's at EA may want to roll that back and look at it again and figure out a better fix.
@JGWentworths wrote:
@martbloke wrote:
@JGWentworthsNot in the slightest am I trolling or being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.
Like agentputt, give examples of what you're seeing happen. Otherwise you say x% overswing or perfect and x happens means nothing. No one knows where you're placing your marker to say, "Hey, yeah you've placed the marker exactly where you should and that outcome is BS." You're saying you are putting the marker exactly where it should and the ball is blasting passed the hole without any context on where you're placing your marker. Ergo one will think you are NOT placing you marker where it should be.
I don't give a damn how long you played EA golf games for. A newbie to EA golf can tell you what seems correct and what not. He k a newbie can blow some very experienced players out the water. Who says they're newbies to gaming in general? Your comment was about this franchise. Who says they actually play proper sim golf on other golf games and irl and know better than someone who's played EA games for decades? Your point of being experienced in EA games is irrelevant to whatever issue you are raising and speaks volumes when that's all your basing it on rather than actual specifics of the issue to report to EA. You my friend are looking more like an EA troll than I am. Want something looked at or fixed by EA, show them what's wrong rather than leave them guessing. Pretty simple request.’m not showing the world my system. I’m extremely competitive and knowledge is power. I don’t need YOU to validate me and don’t care about what you think will help or not. You’re not a dev and a dev knows what I’m talking aboutI’m not showing the world my system. I’m extremely competitive and knowledge is power. I don’t need YOU to validate me and don’t care about what you think will help or not. You’re not a dev and a dev knows what I’m talking about. Additionally, no matter what I post video wise, you’re the type of troll that will argue it’s improper. I’ve worked with devs, you haven’t. You don’t need video for them to understand. Jesus Christ…
Your doing something wrong...
@iglooman__TW wrote:@SneaklerIt I agree the cup was very receptive, but you don't come in after everyone has learned the game building up for weeks and COMPLETELY change the cup physics. Also, ball lips backwards in regards to physics. It's broken. Next are they gonna change the swing mechanics, wind effects, elevation, lies, percentages?
Gosh you're a gem.
Did you ever consider that regardless of everyone "learning the game" that the original physics of the cup were unintended and they were sitting there like geez people are shooting -20 on Tour difficulty putting is an absolute joke for these higher level players and they wanted the game to be more realistic?
Games make changes all the time and rebalance stuff this is nothing new after people learn certain mechanics, it took me a whole 30 minutes to adjust, I didn't become trash at the game all of a sudden.
In that process of making some changes they added a ton of realism while also clearly screwing up on the putts that are rolling over the hole if hit with what is considered to by most to be an acceptable pace for a putt. Needs to be fixed.
The problem is at the beginning you're talking about the whole implementation as a fail and calling it "artificial difficulty and randomness being added" which is just in accurate. If we want to focus on the only good example of it being broken then let's do that.
Lastly, this whole next are they gonna change swings/wind/elevation etc...
Come on man, putting was a joke and super easy, it's more challenging now, they just need to fix this one issue were having. Those other things you're talking about is hysterical and over the top.
