[Feedback thread] Title Update 0.5

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Hey there, would you mind translating your message in English if possible? Thank you 🙏

First time i comment on these posts but while i really like a lot of the changes i still have to say that not all of them were that good, first of all i don’t understand why you made Wall Nut cost 75 sun now, it’s already such a weak defensive plant on this game so this change makes no sense for it, plus you should allow us to plant non aquatic plants on water again because that was such a cool feature having the lily pad below the placed plant so i don’t understand why you took that out but you shouldn’t have done that, you should also bring back sprouts that you can collect through levels as well because i'm gonna be fully honest with you guys i really dislike the hearts and even the Zen Garden isn’t great at all, in fact it needs a huge rework to have much more space with the possibility of even expanding it because it looks incredibly lame compared to the previous games and more ice plants need to come back as well as fire and explosive plants such as Cherry Bomb and Jalapeño, you should also make that the plant leveling the higher it is the more faster the plants will even recharge so you can plant more of them faster and maybe make the sun cost decrease because it will make the upgrades more worth it since Tier 1 plants can still be very bad against most of the zombies even if they’re leveled up enough, so yeah pls take all your time to consider these things and add more rewarding challenges because it’s still difficult obtaining enough shards and seeds to unlock and upgrade the plants but especially give Bonk Choy his original attack speed back by even making Beat Choy attack even faster than him because it’s sad that they both attack slower than before.

All the levels feel the same, even though you cut the filler!

The upgraded Cabbage-pult that throws 4 cabbages at once can currently only hit a single pigeon target at a time, which feels very abnormal. This also seems to be a common issue affecting other pult-type plants as well. Please fix this bug.

Also, Japan🇯🇵 and Korea🇰🇷 can be used as testing regions too.

Leveling should apply to every base fusion of a plant. Like if you level up a Peashooter, you level up the Repeater and Gatling Pea. Also, the game kinda boring. Not a lot to do. 

Sincerely, I like most of the changes that occurred in this update, but I still wish they would use more of the zombie and plant statistics that already exist in other games, at least as a basis so that merges have either the combination of abilities or double damage/projectiles, so that leveling is just something linear.

Concordo com o feedback do "19fishw"!

Mas eu acho que ficaria melhor não existir esse crit nos zumbis normais, apenas alguns zumbis específicos levar efetivo, como o zumbi de magma golem e os zumbis "slime" do esgoto (que não temos ainda)

O meta elemental deixa o jogo muito chato e fácil, já que vocês também aumentaram o multiplicador do crit.

Eu concordo que a gente deveria ser incentivado a usar plantas de gelo no vulcão, acido no esgoto e eletricas no pântano, mas nao dessa maneira artificial.

No pvz2, as plantas de fogo aquecem as outras, impedindo o congelamento, enquanto os zumbis não podem ser congelados, diminuindo a eficiência do iceberg lettuce por exemplo.

Um bom exemplo que já tem no jogo do que deveria ser feito, é que no lawn normal, existe fases que caem raio, e plantas elétricas são imune a isso e ganham bônus de attack speed, da para gente utilizar a umbrella para counterar, ou encher de plantas elétricas que vai se beneficiar disso.

Dito isso, gostaria de elogiar o update, o jogo melhorou MUITO, tipo, MUITO mesmo, vocês estão de parabéns popcap! Mas ainda tem o que melhorar.

Adventure Rework Suggestion!

I really like the adventure rework overall and the levels that I've been able to play feel a lot more unique than they were previously. The way the game gradually introduces mechanics is great as well. However, I would like an upgrade to the level interface, like a world map such as the one PvZ 3c has or even the old PvZ 2 world maps.

Basically, I feel a better/more enjoyable visual representation of where the player is at in a biome would help make levels more memorable and can give players a needed boost to beat levels in that certain area/biome and play the game more frequently. Oh, and maybe level objectives too? (don't trample the flowers, endangered plants, or new ones for this game specifically!)

Image credit: PvZ Reddit, PvZ Wiki

This update knocked it out of the park! But there’s still a few nasty weeds cropping up:

1. Lack of Meteorite Shards/Chunks: Look, I get it if levelling is meant to be endgame, but when you need over 10k of both shards and chunks for a non-T1 plant and, to be blunt, the methods for obtaining them can be just a little stingy, it makes it hard to actually level the plants (especially when biomes have a hard focus on their elements). And with the Dust Exchange likely gone for good with Cosmic Dust’s removal, I’d really appreciate another consistent way to get the currency, especially when you need them to level up a plant.
2. Zombie HP: To be honest, I feel some zombies are overtuned. Elemental/Special Elemental Zombies have a lot of HP. I get that there’s an emphasis on elemental interaction, but that also puts people into a stun lock: whereby the “meta” is to use said elemental plants only (along with their choice of sun producer), which’ll be made worse if/when we get more elemental attackers (meaning that it’s ONLY worth bringing that biome’s elemental counter and a sun producer). Maybe dial back the HP a bit so that non elemental plants aren’t punished. (Also, not a big fan of Bowling Zombie’s increased bulk and inability to disable its mechanic)
3. Seeds for Levelling I’m a fan of more use for seeds, especially when it’s much easier to unlock the plants! But needing 700 seeds to get Cabbage-Pult and its respective pure fusions to Level 5 when, at most, you’re getting 50ish seeds a day (maxing out the Zen Garden) feels like a bit much. Maybe increasing the Zen Garden gains slightly would work to remedy the issue (especially when you need 5k+ seeds to max out Wall-Nut and all of its fusions! And no plant needs less than 1k seeds to max out all their fusions, even Potato Mine needs almost 3k at minimum, and it’s the “cheapest” of the bunch). I can’t confirm whether duplicate Plants from the likes of the Plant Pass still give their respective seeds (50/80/300 for T1 through 3), but that leaves new players high and dry, whereas players playing since the initial release are easily bagging almost 800 seeds for one plant, leaving an imbalance between newcomers and veterans.

Got faith y’all will knock this out of the park again, like ye did with this update!