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I will tell you 3 things that are very annoying, the first is when you record while playing, the video will lose the game sound and it is very annoying, the second is a very crazy level, at level 70 and above the zombies are very chaotic, coming in large numbers and quickly, my plants are already at a much higher level but the result is overwhelmed, the third is when I see other people playing and trying the first and second things they don't experience it, of course it's strange that they are showing favoritism to me unless all players will be like that[FEEDBACK] A deep overview
I'll start with a quick introduction- I'm Vander, mainly known within the PvZ community as the artist behind the PvZ3:WCHB/Fogbound fanart project, you've very likely have seen some of it already... I've played PvZ 1 and 2 to completion multiple times, I've played through 3 of PvZ3 soft releases and betas, I've played many of the most popular mods at maximum difficulty. After all this time I do know what makes PvZ as a game unique and fun. I hope that this feedback helps shape the game into the best version of itself. PART 1 | The good! Starting with some positivity- I do personally like the game's art direction. While most people do know that I do clearly have my personal gripes with some of its aspects, I do like how colorful it is and how expressive it is, specially on splash art/promo art. Although it sometimes has some problems shinning through the limitations of being a mobile game... The new original plants are generally great in terms of design and definitely stand out from the honestly lackluster newcomers in PvZ 2. But as I'll discuss later, it's a shame I can't really get to use any of them... The game has also improved in a lot of aspects from previous releases. There's definitely a lot more content and specially zombie variety to match the big catalogue of plants. However, there's also a lot of aspects that have remained stagnant or even worsened in this newest release, which leads us to... PART 2 | The bad... There's a definitely a lot to talk about but I'm gonna focus on the following issues: Leveling, Progression, Level design, Balancing and Game feel. I won't go in too much detail for other things that I would also like to see like an official release for PC (please!). First up... LEVELING | And why it is incompatible with PvZ on a fundamental level Leveling has been front and center this past couple of releases and, like most people, I genuinely think that it actively hurts the game. Plants vs Zombies from the very beginning has been first and foremost a strategy game. The challenge starts before a level even starts, choosing your seeds correctly being a very important factor of the game's identity. It's both what you choose to bring and how you use it. The wide roster of plants are all options to consider to tackle specific threats, strategize and even play around with not so optimal combinations. A player's power is represented by their options increasing, not by stats increasing with no consideration to the game's balance. Leveling completely ruins this dynamic (and the progression too but that comes later) and here's why: A big part of the skill expression and fun in PvZ comes from the consistent interactions between plants and zombies that allow the player to tackle all sorts of challenges and situations with nothing more than their own skill and strategy. A Peashooter always defeats a basic zombie in 10 hits. A sunflower always gives 25 sun. A potato mine needs 3 tiles of space to arm on time. A gargantuar needs 2 instas to take down. And many, many more. There are hundreds of consistent and reliable interactions on which the game's strategy and balance is built upon... but leveling completely destroys this. A peashooter could defeat a zombie in 4 hits or 30 and you will never be able to know exactly since it changes so much. How reliable is a Potato mine if you are never truly sure if it will be able to take out a zombie in one hit? How much safety can I expect from a Wall-nut if it could be eaten away 3 times faster from one level to another? What value comes from learning how to maximize your sun production if a leveled Sunflower produces 2 times more without any change to my strategy? How much of a Gatling pea's identity as a powerhouse is left if I'm doubting if it will be able to handle a couple of basic zombies? All the fun, balancing, level design and strategy goes down the drain with leveling. Leveling means that no player ever faces the same level on similar grounds, which means that all the potential fun and unique levels that made the previous games so fun and memorable are outright impossible to replicate. With leveling the difficulty varies from a complete pushover to literally unbeatable with no in-between. With leveling you can never replay a level the same way you did the first time around. With leveling the difficulty becomes artificial making challenges that are not overcome by improving your skills or rethinking your strategy but by grinding or paying to skip the wait. With leveling the balance and identity of plants goes out the window- what is the purpose of Repeater if a leveled Peashooter outperforms it? With leveling the fun of unlocking a new plant to try out disappears as any new addition demands more grind, making players stick with the same few plants they first decided to invest their resources into. The random level layouts, the inability of manually designing a level that all players will experience equally and leveling making players stick with the same loadout all leads to a repetitive, boring and exhaustive experience. It is disheartening to see people stop thinking about their strategy or selection of plants, relying completely on the same couple over-leveled plants to beat everything with no challenge whatsoever. It is so ironic that, in a game whose MAIN gimmick and selling point is the merging system and the "powerful" plants that come from it, the best and easiest strategy is just investing everything on a single T1 plant that ends up completely outclassing its "upgrades". Like genuinely why is the most optimal approach leveling up Cabbage-pult and completely stop using Slaw slinger and Cab-barrage altogether? In summary, PLEASE REMOVE LEVELING. PvZ 1 and PvZ 2 (for a long time) worked amazingly without leveling for a reason. To this day most players actively avoid engaging with the system in PvZ 2 because it straight up ruins the experience of most of the game outside of things like Arena and Penny's pursuit. Here it is forced upon you from the very beginning and it does nothing but make the game worse. And leveling is not the only thing causing the game to feel repetitive and boring... PROGRESSION | Playing through an entire PvZ1 adventure's worth of levels with literally 0 new unlocks Cutting right to the point: THE PROGRESSION FEELS HORRIBLE, SPECIALLY FOR A F2P PLAYER While the progression in the previous seedling release wasn't the best per say, I still managed to get a decent amount of new plants, both T2s and T3s. I got to try out what makes a merging system fun: the vast array of plants it gives you access to. In this release however, I feel like I'm not gonna get to try the vast majority of them any time soon... PvZ1 and PvZ2 had a very straightforward and effective approach to progression, you unlocked a new plant every level or every couple levels, keeping things fresh and dynamic all throughout. Zombies and gimmicks were introduced right along the new plants, showcasing them as an effective counter or even as a threat to what you have been using so far. Levels could be unique and interesting since they had a concrete idea of what plants the player has access to. Here you have barely anything since every single plant past the tutorial depends on grind to be unlocked. You use Gatling pea, Peanut and Cab-barrage on repeat for more than 50 levels straight because grinding the zen garden is so artificially slow. People have done the math and it genuinely takes almost 8 months of non-stop optimal grinding to unlock all the CURRENT plants. Personally, it took me a whole week just to unlock Bonk Choy! You don't even get the mono T2 merges for all the T1s, I had to use Bop choy to farm seeds which is the slowest way possible! And going back to the issue with leveling I mentioned earlier, the system as a whole discourages using the higher tier merges. Why?! The situational/niche plants are never going to be used since getting even the good ones takes so much time. How many people are actually gonna ever use Water Chestnut or Endurian? And that's not the only issue... Making the player choose what plants they get (and make them grind for each one of them) means that some players could genuinely become softlocked if they decide to level up or unlock the "wrong" plants just because they like them. The elemental weaknesses, zombie leveling and zombies that counter specific types of plants (like Parasol and Goalie) means that you can be stuck on a level for a long time with nothing to do but grind levels you already beat and wait around for the Zen garden. What if someone puts their limited resources into Peanut and Peashooter for example and are then forced to face a high level Miner zombie with an under-leveled Potato mine or Bop choy? There's nothing they can do! No amount of skill or strategy is going make a difference. And that feeling of helplessness is horrible, it can very likely make people quit altogether. The dynamic of PvZ's progression depends entirely on the player unlocking new plants to better face newer threats... but here, you are forced to play with suboptimal decks or just sit and wait for weeks on end before being able to make a bit of progress before facing another wall soon after. I myself am stuck in the adventure campaign because I decided to upgrade Potato mine and unlock Bonk choy, not knowing that the actual "correct" decision was to unlock and Nippy cabbage and upgrade Iceberg lettuce to even have a chance to defeat the volcano zombies. And this doesn't even consider the constant conflicting demand all the modes have for your very limited resources! For example, at this moment I am on the Volcano section of the campaign, the current Lawn patrol gimmick is the Balloon zombie and the current Expedition is on the Campground. If I want to have even a remote chance to beat any of them I have to invest on Iceberg lettuce, Cabbage-pult and Zaptail all the same time but with EXP being gated behind daily rewards and beating levels for the first time I genuinely can't progress on any of them! I barely started my likely 2 week long grind to get Nippy cabbage and by the time I get him, the Lawn Patrol and Expedition are likely to end and change to something completely different. I've been playing the game this past whole week daily just beating the same 3 Lawn patrol levels over and over, using up all my hearts in the Zen garden and even watching all the daily AD rewards just so I can eventually get to play the actual game for a bit again. All resources are so hard to get, you get so little of them and everything is so expensive, including the microtransactions! I honestly don't feel like $150+ dollar packs are something people are willing to pay for, specially if you can only get 1-2 plants with that. At that point just buy like 30 copies of the original game to get to play with 48 plants... IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO FORK OVER MONEY FOR THE MICROTRANSACTIONS YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE FUN. I see so many people spend so much more time on other games in the Offer-wall section than playing the actual game and that's not a good sign! So, how to solve it? I can hope but I know big overarching changes are not likely so this is what I would do: Lower the seed requirement for all unlocks by a lot, at least how it was in the previous seedling build (40 for T2s and 80 for T3s) Make the hearts (ideally changed to sprouts) be obtainable by chance when playing levels like on previous installments so it is not hard time gated Unlock at least all the mono T2s upon getting the T1. This makes them at least usable when you first get them and also helps with the grind by not forcing you to do it the slow way at first Allow some specific T2s that are needed to progress through the campaign be unlockable by beating levels. Nippy cabbage for example could be a good reward a couple of levels into the Volcano section. You can gate them behind a star requirement if necessary so they are not completely superfluous... Replace the daily scores with a daily level bundle. The daily scores are essentially just a chore, just "play level 1-5 again" or do nothing special and play the game normally and get them anyways. You could instead have a unique assortment of 5 levels each day that reward you with coins and EXP (or even better: no leveling!) and getting the stars means getting more rewards like it is now, with seeds being the final one for getting all 15 stars. The levels can be randomly generated, with any kind of area, combination of zombies and all that Add a repeating level reward for the plant pass once you finish it. The pass itself can be completed relatively fast if you consistently complete all daily tasks. This has left most people obtaining plant pass points that are just thrown into the void because you already got to level 20. I'm not sure why that's not here since it is standard on all games with a battle pass system. It could give coins and seeds... just anything so that the task system doesn't just straight up die once you complete the pass Add a store to buy seeds with coins. Right now you can get a really small amount of seeds for gems but it is not really worth it. It could even just be a rotating store with a limited amount each day. Right now you have barely anything to spend coins on since you get a lot less EXP and everything costs gems for some reason Change the friend help system. Instead of giving away Zen garden tools you could maybe have a daily request you could make for a specific type of seed so anyone in your community can donate what they can with some rewards like sprouts or coins for helping others You should get a reward for not using Mo like in previous games Zombies should drop coins or gems randomly like they did in previous games LEVEL DESIGN | And what made the original game so fun Even looking past leveling and slow progression, the level design is lackluster. There's some very clear issues and it's quite easy to solve them: THE 50% RULE - Any PvZ veteran knows of this mechanic and its absence in this game is felt harshly. Put simply, the 50% rule means that the next wave of zombies is spawned immediately if the collective HP of all zombies of the most recent wave goes below 50%. This simple mechanic alone does wonders for pacing, strategy and player agency. In PvZ 3 however, all waves are tied to a strict timer which leads to a lot of problems which include: levels start right away, with the first zombies spawning seconds after a level starts, giving you no time to think, plan or prepare; you can't take things slowly, stalling doesn't work as you can't hold off zombies to maximize your time if you feel like you need more time to prepare before things get out of hand, everything just comes no matter what you do, making things feel hectic and overwhelming; you can't be fast either, if you beat the zombies too fast you have constant awkward moments where there's nothing happening, making even easy levels feel like a slog; you are not rewarded for winning and you are punished more for losing. Implementing this feature alone would improve the game feel by a lot, it is one of the most important suggestions here! WAVES AND FLAGS - Right now, waves and flag waves feel underwhelming. In previous games you could easily gage the length and difficulty of a level by the amount of flags it had. Levels with 1, 2, 3 or 4 flags all felt very different and it mattered a lot when it came to you strategy. Here however, even the very first level has like 4 flags and there's no feeling of variety since they don't have an impact like they used to. It's disappointing seeing the iconic "A HUGE WAVE OF ZOMBIES IS APPROACHING! " pop up just for a 2 zombies to appear over the course of 10 seconds. Flag waves need to have an impact, they are the high points of a level. It would feel a lot better if levels were a lot more reserved with the amount of flags and in exchange making them actually, you know, a "huge wave of zombies". Also, normal waves don't feel like "waves" either. Zombies spawn slowly 1 by 1 most of the time, like a slow trickle. You generally don't get the feel of a horde approaching like in the previous games, specially since the game has the not so nice tendency of spawning the majority of a wave on a single lane. I do feel like this is another issue caused by leveling (who could have guessed...) because the power of a wave isn't represented by its size but rather the inflated stats of its couple of members. This not only makes it hard or outright impossible to gage the threat level of a wave but it also messes with the identity and presence of the stronger zombies. In the previous games I could easily tell if I could handle a couple of basic zombies coming my way and the presence of an early bucket head was definitely felt. But here even basic zombies could have a ridiculous amount of HP and I won't realize that a level is impossible for me until I see a basic zombie tank a Potato mine with not even its arm falling off. RANDOMIZED LAYOUTS - Please no randomized layouts that change everyday for some reason. There's potential for interesting levels or challenges using the water and barren tiles but right now they are just used in random preset layouts that don't take into consideration the level they are being used on. Some levels can genuinely become impossible to beat one day just because the randomized layout gives you a a really bad mix. Even if there's a unique layout that does make a level more interesting, tomorrow it's not gonna be like that. The zombies being spread thin, the lack of plant unlocks and the preset of layouts quickly repeating itself makes a lot of the levels feel samey- none stand out, none are memorable. Use the special tiles more sparingly, use them with intent. LEVELING, BAD PROGRESSION AND STALENESS - With progression being tied to a long grind and difficulty varying wildly with the levels of both plants and zombies, it is just not possible to make a fun, unique or memorable level. It is just unfeasible to consider all the possible power levels a player could be in at any given point which just makes all levels default to being uninspired, formulaic and repetitive. People still remember iconic levels like PvZ1's 1-5 or 5-9, or the infamous BWB-30 from PvZ 2. You don't remember a PvZ3 level because it was fun challenge or a unique twist of the formula, you remember the singular zombie special that made the level unfair when you first played it. While the idea of chapters is fun and has a lot potential, right now it feels like there's no cohesiveness to any of the themes. Specials appear and disappear, wherever even if they are completely disconnected to an area's themes. Why is Batter zombie introduced in the volcano? Why is chicken Wrangler introduced in the Campground? Areas feel the weakest they have ever been because they all share the same elements, because there's no intent to when a zombie is introduced since plants are not unlocked naturally, because plants are not tied to an area which means that all gimmicks and zombies are duplicates or not that impactful. Getting Cactus and seeing a Balloon zombie hidden in the fog right after; getting Kernel-pult and realizing the butter instantly defeats Seagull zombies; getting more value out of Pea pod with the help of the minecarts in Wild West. Even PvZ1, which stayed on the same house as its setting, had very distinct and memorable feels for each area. They had ever present gimmicks completely unique to each one that had a big impact to how levels are played: the fog, the pool, night, the roof... But with plants not being unlocked with beating levels, you just can't do that. Imagine if you had to face Digger zombies but you just don't have Starfruit or Magnet-shroom the first 10 times. Imagine having to face Zombonis, but you don't get Spikeweed or Jalapeño until next week. It all just pulls down the potential for greatness all across the game and for what? Monetization..? BALANCE | Avoid trying to reinvent the wheel Even if leveling magically disappeared for the better, the game still makes some bizarre choices in balancing that makes returning players feel confused. Most people know I have quite a lot to say when it comes the balance of plants but I'll share the most important ones for now. A lot of these suggestions do depend on leveling being removed but I'll still share them: Peashooter should defeat basic zombies in 10 shots, not 17. He should be the standard point of reference for damage like he was the last 2 games Potato mine and Tangle kelp should reliably defeat basic threats. It's just so bizarre seeing Potato mine doing so little damage Iceberg lettuce should focus on the freeze and not on the damage, it just fights with Potato mine's role Sun production values is something that shouldn't be tampered with. It feels so wrong seeing the counter not be multiples of 25 or even of 5 for that matter. Increase production speed if you must, just don't ruin the standard please Plants should work with stats that are clean round and consistent numbers so players can much more easily make calculations and strategy decisions on the fly. The classic 300 HP standard, the 1800 damage explosives, the 4000HP Wall-nut, etc. What do I make of a Potato mine doing 937 or something like that? Simple T3s should get something more than just plain stat increases. Like my suggestion of giving Jugger-nut some resistances to common wall counters or giving Gatling pea higher attack speed to differentiate it from just 2 Repeaters Higher tiers of single use plants should still create duplicates of the T1 when used. It was such a good implementation within the context of a merge system last time and I don't know why it got removed this time around Bonk choy should attack fast, it feels off seeing him hit so slowly Instas should activate on contact, not when attacked. It doesn't sound like it but it does make a big difference for game feel. Zombies should walk through them while they do their activation animation, not start eating them, Additionally, instas should explode instantly if they are actually defeated by special attacks, like Es-garg-ot's rollout Spikeweed should work like it did in previous games. It piercing armor doesn't help a lot when basic zombies have so much health, it just feels like it tickles the zombies Puff-shroom should be the T1 for mushrooms. It is such a weird decision to make him cost 125 sun. Sun-shroom can easily be Puff + Sunflower Elemental damage bonuses should only apply to specific zombies and not the basics. Magma zombie from the previous build can definitely be a tank that's weak to ice, but the basics also having that weakness just funnels players into the same strategy and just inflates their stats more as it expects you to use the counter even if you don't have it Potato mines and Lime bombs should be able to merge even if not armed. You can place them directly on a plant already so it not working the other way around anymore feels bad Sawgrass and Chainsawgrass should get horizontal range, not vertical Miner zombies and Volcanologists should activate armed Potato mines when digging Potato mine, Lime bomb and Golden Yukon should have a smaller hitbox from behind. Right now a Miner zombie can eat a Golden Yukon from behind without being in range of its explosion Chicken wrangler should release the chickens upon receiving damage. It's so bizarre seeing him take a lot of hits without releasing anything. Also remember the mechanic where he doesn't release them if he's stunned or frozen Cabbage-pult and their merges shouldn't prioritize flying targets, it sometimes makes it so walking zombies pile up on a lane with nothing you can do about it Lobbed projectiles should still be able to hit targets in the way if the original target dies before they connect. This is specially a big issue for Cab-barrage and chickens. Additionally, lobbing plants should calculate beforehand if the attack of another lobbing plant is gonna kill a zombie they are targeting before wasting their shots on them The area of effect of Lime bomb, Potato mine, Golden Yukon and Iceberg lettuce should be increased horizontally a little bit. At the moment it feels very unforgiving Wrangle and Mangle kelp should be able to stun-lock a target if they aren't defeated instantly so they just don't get eaten Spikeweed should damage Screendoor zombie directly And now the big ones: ABOUT SEED SLOTS - It seems that there is going to be a hard limit to 5 seed slots. While 5 is a good starting amount for the early levels to encourage making decisions that matter it quickly becomes an issue as more and more threats that require specific counters start to show up. While the merging system does mean that each T1 also includes a bunch of merges on top, they are all within a similar role/purpose. If a Balloon zombie is present you NEED Cabbage-pult or else you cannot defeat them. Thunder? Umbrella leaf. Miners? Bop choy. This soon leads to the level itself making the decisions for you every time with little to no room for variation or iteration. It feels like a lock and key system where your freedom of making your own deck doesn't fit. Certain plant archetypes are greatly affected by this, like secondary attackers (Spikeweed and Bop choy) or specialized instas (like Tangle kelp and Lime bomb). Sunflower is always a must, so you only really have 4 to work with. If it's never going to increase from 5, there's gonna be a lot of combinations of zombies and gimmicks that would just not be possible to beat. Imagine a level with Parasols, Balloons and miners- this layout alone decides your most of your loadout without any of your input. And if you add thunder and Stealth imps to the mix, there's quite literally just 1 possible deck that can be used. And things are gonna get worse the more zombies and plants get added. I think that aiming for 8 slots for endgame is a good sweet spot, specially taking into account one of the suggestions coming up. More seed slots means that the merging system has a lot more space to truly shine. They could be bought in the shop with coins, like in PvZ 1. But having at least 6 by lvl 50 is certainly gonna be needed. THE UNFORTUNATE OUTCASTS- A lot of people have certainly noticed that a couple of big archetypes of plants are prominently missing: most instas and tool/gimmick plants. This I can certainly tell is because of the rules currently set by the merge system and the seed slot limit I mentioned. Plants that introduce new mechanics have their own lines that require a T2, a T3 and at least a couple merges with the other T1s. Each new T1 added opens up more holes every time for needed merges and for most, the logistical issues are just not worth it. Tool plants in particular have it the worst, as seen with Lilypad and Plantern, who have been relegated to unobtainable plants automatically placed which sometimes even conflicts with their original purpose. And some plants like Grave buster or Stallia are probably never going to be able to return if things stay the same. Some instas like Cherry bomb or Squash have a hard time fitting in now, specially since it would be too hard or outright impossible to merge them into a mono T2, let alone a T3. But fret not, for I have a solution for both of these! I call them "Tier Xs", "Holding slots" and "Boosted slots": Tier Xs are plants that can't have a whole line dedicated to them or those who don't exactly fit that well in the merging system (due to how they work). These includes tool plants like Lilypad, very cheap instas that don't have that much potential merges like Stunion and Stallia, or those that do not benefit from merging into a mono T2/3 like Buttercup. These plants would still be able to occasionally merge with other T1, T2 or TX (like Buttercup being a good candidate to get Kernel-pult with Cabbage-pult), but it would be clear that they are mainly meant to be used as stand alone plants. However as I previously mentioned, this would need an increase to the maximum seed slots to properly work but I feel like it is well worth it to give fan favorites or even interesting newcomers a chance to fight the zombies even if they don't fit that well with the merging system. I'd personally go about this like this: you start with 5 normal slots, but, after a certain level you get the 5th one upgraded to a "higher tier". This upgraded seed slot is now able to hold up to a T2 plant (if it does have one, it has a different background color). You can still pick 5 T1s, or opt for a T2, sacrificing the possible merges made with the T1 for an easier direct access to the merge itself. All the seed slots you unlock afterwards are upgraded too. Once you have all 8 slots, you can upgrade the 8th one to the ultimate tier, making it able to hold up to a T3. Not only does this deepen the strategy of choosing plants, exchanging options for accessibility, it also opens the doors for plants that rely on being reactionarily planted that are merges nonetheless (plants like Guacodile come to mind). Merges of course would still have a sun cost that is the sum of all its components and a fitting CD, taking into consideration its role and power. This means that plants that would be too strong to be T1 but impossible to merge into a T2, like Cherry bomb, can now feasibly work within the rules of the system! But that's not all! Holding slots are another way of helping these kind of plants work within the system as well. Simply put, they are empty slots that you can use for merging outside of the board itself. You could likely start with 1, and unlock the 2nd not long after. Running out of space to place plants to build up to a T3 late into a level, making it so you have to place them at the front on a risky position? Wanting to build up a higher tier insta but you don't want it to be activated prematurely or end up in a suboptimal position? Wanting to use your favorite explosive cherries but you can only take the T1? Worry not for the holding slot is the solution for all these problems. They allow you to safely merge plants and keep them ready to place for whenever you need them. You can use it to optimize plant cooldowns, to access higher tier instas and use them more optimally, to merge without running out of space, and so much more! These 3 things would easily allow for all kinds of plants to return without the need to drastically change their identity or functionality. It's a win all around! MERGING COSTS AND COOLDOWNS- Right now, balancing a plant can be a bit complicated since you have to stick strictly to the sum of the cost and cooldown of its components, leading to a 125 sun Snow pea, the infamous 125 sun Puff-shroom or being completely unable to use Iceberg lettuce as an actual freeze if you need it for merges. A simple solution to more easily manage balancing would be introducing merge costs and refunds. This would apply only to hybrid merges. This simple feature would give a lot more control to the designer to balance the game without being restricted to awkward sun costs or cooldowns. Expensive and cheap merges would be able to coexist a lot more easily without needing to make big changes that affect other plants. Plants with longer cooldowns would also be able to be used for merges more consistently if the resulting plant doesn't really need that big of a cooldown to balance it. It would be automatic and fairly easy to understand right away. This would also apply to the holdings slots idea I described earlier, but the refund could even be applied preemptibly there, so you could make a cheap merge even if the components cost more at first. In this example, Coldslaw would cost 175 sun, and to merge it, you would need at least 75 sun, since it also counts the cost of Iceberg lettuce. Golden Yukon could refund 25 sun when merged, as the 75 sun cost really hampers its purpose as a little producer since it barely covers its own cost. Other plants like Wall-nut or the hypothetical Cherry pop from the previous image could still keep higher cooldowns if you want to use them as a wall or explosive to keep them balanced, but have a small refund to their seed packet if you use them for merging directly, since keeping plants with a little less immediate impact gated behind higher cooldowns (like Chuk nut or Endurian for example) is not ideal in my opinion. PERKS, IF YOU MUST KEEP THEM- I've been pretty clear on my opinion on leveling but there's one aspect about it that could be salvageable if you can't remove the system altogether. Perks could be an interesting way of making a plant stronger without having to mess with its stats or needing to level zombies to ridiculously increasing numbers. However, plant perks feel like a second thought from a design stand point because it feels like the plant they are given too is not considered whatsoever sometimes. Some work pretty well, like the double attack or ricochet perks for Peashooter and Cabbage-pult, some others genuinely leave me confused though. There's some inoffensive but not very useful ones like the goodbye gift perk that boosts a stat when merging or being defeated (it just feels very unimpactful and kinda lame to be honest). On the other hand, that one healing perk is the one that confuses me the most- why does Potato mine and Lime bomb get that? Aren't they supposed to be on the right side of the lawn, and not remain that long on the board anyways? This does make sense with Sunflower for example, but this perk is one of the most counterproductive things you could give to single use plants like them. Bop choy gets it too but I guess it kinda does work since he is meant to be behind a wall plant (although the heal is just so small taking leveling into account so it barely even matters anyways). Spikeweed though... you do know Spikeweed's main thing is going INFRONT of the wall plant right? You will never get anything from this perk on Spikeweed so why give it to him in the first place? It feels like the lame perks like the heal or the goodbye gift are overused. Also even the cool ones have their issues... #freemygoatghostpepperfromperkprison (Ghost pepper would be a killer TX, just saying...) Perks really should consider the role of the plant first and foremost and not just be given in mass without any thought. Attackers should get bonuses for attacking, support plants can keep the heal or even a boost, walls should have something that helps them take more hits, instas should get something out of being used not staying in the lawn. GAME FEEL | The joy of gardening The last thing I want to discuss is the game feel, the little things that make the experience so enjoyable. I hope that Replanted was a good reminder of how important these aspects are to PvZ as a game and why they should definitely be considered as important. I'll make this another list: DYNAMIC MUSIC - A very popular suggestion for a reason. PvZ1 and 2's tracks are so memorable because they dynamically adapt to the level as it plays out. New instruments play during big waves or things go all out for the final wave. Right now all tracks feel a bit lackluster, since they keep the same energy all through out and they don't have a strong melodies like the iconic tracks from previous installments SOUND DESIGN - I personally feel like the sound design in particular is one of the weakest aspects of the game at the moment. Some are nice, specially the little sounds some plants make when merged like Peanut or Golden Yukon, they are very cute; or the sound of the UI outside of the levels themselves. However, the biggest issue I'd say are the attack/hit sounds, which is a big problem since they are the ones that play constantly all level. I feel like the sound of Peashooter, Cabbage-pult and Zaptail are way too loud and overdesigned once you have a full defense they become incredibly irritating. Previous games had a subtler and "airy" sound that definitely made them tolerable even with a dozen Peashooters firing simultaneously. Here it is just this sharp POP or spring sound that gets annoying very fast. The electric sounds are the worst offender, they just become noise with a couple of Zaptails. Hit sounds are not good either, they feel off. In the previous games each projectile had a unique sound when they landed. Peas had this vibe of something splatting against skin, cabbages felt like a bunch of crunchy leaves breaking apart, Bonk choy's punches had this oomph and impact, specially the uppercut. Here the sound is the same for most plants and the common one is not great to be honest. It feels like someone kicking a sack of potatoes and it's just not satisfying to hear whatsoever. And the bucket and cone hit sounds are not good either, they feel... muffled. Both PvZ 1 and 2 had cones have this very recognizable plastic sound and buckets have this strong but not loud clang that made it very clear who was receiving damage at any given point. There was even a minigame in PvZ 1, invisighouls, that relied entirely in the amazing sound design that PvZ1 had for both plants and zombies. A concept like this just couldn't work in PvZ 3 since the shooting sounds are so loud and overbearing and the hit sounds are so indistinct and hard to notice. And the perk sounds? The Screendoor/parasol hit sounds? The status effects? They are just so loud and repetitive! I struggle to hear anything over the constant indistinct generic woosh that the healing perk makes over and over again! The following is a list of things that I feel should be revisited to make the game satisfying to hear like PvZ1 and not nails on a chalkboard (you could reuse the same sounds again! Why change something so recognizable?) : Peashooter, Cabbage-pult, Zaptail, Spikeweed, Bop choy and their merges should have more subtle sounds similar to how they were in PvZ 2. Bop choy's line in particular should have a more impactful effect, mainly for the uppercut. Also please implement a system that limits the amount of shooting sounds that can happen per second so things don't devolve into chaos at the end of a level Sun collection should make the iconic sound from the last 2 games, this current one is just not as good as the classic one There should be a sound for picking (like crumbling paper) and placing a plant (digging fine dirt), like in the last 2 games Iceberg Lettuce's freezing sound feels too harsh compared to PvZ 2 in my opinion There should be zombie biting/eating sounds. That is one of the most recognizable sounds from the original but here the zombies just kinda slap the plants with no sound whatsoever. Remember that wall plants have the biting sound reduced! Cones and buckets should make sounds similar to those in the previous games, they are not very distinct at the moment Zombies with unique types of armor should make their own sounds or reuse appropriate ones. Parasol's should definitely be bouncy or like hitting cloth. Batter should use the bucket sounds and Miner should use the cone sounds. Screendoors should make the same metal sound as buckets Explosive plants are very underwhelming. The explosions feel too "realistic" for their own good and very indistinct from one another. Potato mine for example had an amazing sound effect in PvZ 1, where it felt like something bursting out with a bunch of starch and potatoes settling as debris. The cartoony-ness feels restrained when needed and overexaggerated where not. Cabbage-pult's spring like sound is too much for a plant that attacks constantly but a plant like Tangle Kelp could definitely benefit from a more cartoony grabbing effect like it had in the previous 2 games. The "A HUGE WAVE OF ZOMBIES IS APPROACHING" pop up should have a lot more impact Gargantuars should feel heavy. The current one feels too light with how it moves and the smashing has no impact. The PvZ 1 gargantuar perfected the vibe with its slow movement and the shaking and smashing effects were top notch. His grunts should be deep and beastly, not goofy like an ogre making funny faces Es-garg-ot has an above average sound design but it could definitely use a lot more oomph in some of its attacks, specially making the biting sound more menacing and adding drifting like effects to his rollout attack Chickens, pigeons and any future animals should make a more wild sound when summoned. Right now the chicken sounds feel like the ambient sounds a Minecraft chicken makes and it feels out of place The Miner and Volcanologist should have a subtler digging sound like shifting dirt, not loud pickaxe noises Zombies should make more cartoony sounds when doing big motions, like the iconic jumping sound of Pole vaulter in PvZ 1, the spinning effect when Miner comes out the ground Zombies should have much more iconic and recognizable sounds when spawning in or when doing their ability. Bowler zombie actually does a good job at this but the rest not so much. Balloon zombie could have it like in PvZ1, where there's a balloon inflating sound if the incoming wave has one. Goalie could have like a referee whistle and distant cheering crowd whenever it intercepts a projectile in another lane. There could be an action movie like stinger when a Stealth imp spawns and so much more Please make Disco zombie's music the one from the original game Remove most of the sound effects for the less impactful perks, specially the healing one. It only really needs a visual effect to communicate what its doing. The ricochet one is good as is but the double attack one is too sharp of a peak and too loud. Speaking of, please remove the stunning sound effect, it is so out of place, loud and plays even when a zombie auto stuns itself like Miner Screendoor zombie shouldn't make that loud car like sound when defeated Zombies should make unique ambient sounds when present in the lawn, like the unique grunts Parasol made in PvZ 2 or maybe a subtle mechanical rustle for Landscaper's weedwhacker. And the common grunts the zombies make should also be more easily heard Pausing the game should make a sound that's not just the button tapping one, like the scratching record in the original. Same thing for the speed up, it should be like it is in PvZ 2 The jingle that plays when you lose is boring. There should be a unique jingle based on the area like in PvZ 2 or if not, a much more impactful horror riff like PvZ 1 had VISUALS - I personally feel like the animations of most plants and the VFX are generally good for the most part. However the zombies in particular feel very stiff (even for a zombie!) so here are my suggestions: Zombies should actually visually eat the plant instead of just awkwardly slapping them or flailing their arms back and forth. The imp is the only one at the moment that does this properly but the rest just don't do it right. They should look like they are grabbing chunks and shoving them down their mouths, they should be visibly biting and leaning forwards to eat, all that stuff Zombies should consider what killed them for their death animation. They should keep walking for a bit without a head after being defeated by a weak projectile like peas. Them just instantly falling over just feels kinda awkward unless its a much stronger attack like Bonk Choy's uppercut. Also electric attacks should electrocute zombies and turn them into ash. That was one of the most fun details of the previous game and zombies just falling over while being electrocuted feels so wrong. Explosives like Potato mine should send their heads flying and obliterating the body itself to really sell the impact or well, turning them into ash if its something like Cherry bomb Tangle kelp and its line should pull zombies into the water if they are on a water tile. It could be like PvZ 1 where it grabs it and goes down with it or like PvZ 2 where it goes deep first and the it sends out tentacles to grab it down The visual effect of Lime bomb's acid should be a lot more visible, like how chilling makes zombies blue There should be special effects for plants being defeated with certain hazards. Thunder and falling volcanic rocks should incinerate them like how Explorer did in PvZ 2 Speaking of, thunder feels very underwhelming visually. If a level has thunder it should be rainy and cloudy, I remember there already was a cloudy variation of the lawn for the rain puddles in older versions. And the visual marker should become increasingly opaque instead of flashing, right now it is hard to tell when it will actually strike Electric plants should be animated like they were in PvZ 2. They should move with these super fast motions where they shift from pose to pose in an instant. Like how Electric peashooter used to move erratically as if being electrocuted for its idle animation or how Lightning reed attacked with this motion as if it was instantly becoming stiff from a shock Please make the merge tier indicator under the plants a toggle. It is too distracting and based on promo art, it looks really bad in darker areas And lastly, it would be nice if plants had a little of an offset for when they start attacking. Right now they constantly sync up and it looks kinda bad CONCLUSION This was certainly a long read and I'd like to thank you for hearing me out if you made it this far. I do hope that this... 5th time is the charm. In summary: Remove leveling Improve progression by reducing seed costs and making them easier to obtain Unlock certain plants by beating levels Remove the layouts being randomized each day for levels Don't shy away from retreading the path PvZ 1 and 2 took in terms of sound design and animation, they are iconic for a reason Add more seed slots and implement additional systems like the holding or upgraded slots as well as things like the suggested TX so that more types of plants get a chance to return Implement the 50% rule, make waves spawn as hordes and make flag waves be less common but more impactful Remove leveling Hope this feedback makes it to the team! Cheers - VanderRequest for true offline version
I'm a visual arts student, and I absolutely love the art style and the merging mechanic. But I find it frustrating for me to always be connected to wifi or data. Please make a offline version of the game, but not like a "Lite" version where the graphics look like a drawing of a 5 year old. I want it to be like a copy and paste one small change is its offline. Please do this because I find it frustrating a game with amazing art and gameplay and pretty much everything needing wifi to play.Plants Vs Zombies 3: (SUGGESTIONS)
I like how they created a system full of adventures! Customizing your home by adding things that make it stunning is a great feature! More plants are added to the game with a plant-evolution system, which makes the game fun and exciting! They need to add 100 levels per themed battle zone/world and incorporate different challenges into the levels by customizing the tiles and features using the same graphic arts of the themed battle zone (per themed battle zone) as the game progresses. It or they (level/levels) will then need different strategies by using different plants (including the game's plant-evolution system). By doing these, it (Plants Vs Zombies 3 game) will make the game longer, at the same time, less hassle for the game developer because they will use the same sprites or graphics for each themed battle zone or world. At present, most of the players playing a mobile game can finish a game in just 2 days to 1 week. It will make the game short-lived and boring after days/weeks/months/years of playing. Make the game longer by creating more worlds! Be creative! We can use AI or Chatgpt to help us create new ideas! The developer should add different challenges and/or features like the following: 1.) Winter land-themed battle zone/Winter land world - freezing wind, Ice blocks, frozen lake, ice melting, penguins, sliding tiles (fast-forward-moving tiles), etc. 2.) Snowy Mountain-themed battle zone/Snowy Mountain World - snowballs, avalanches, mountain goats, snow accumulation, steep-sloped tiles, etc. 3.) Deep sea or Ocean-themed battle zone/ Ocean world - fish, corals, algae (an oxygen-producing plant), water-submerged battle zone (slowing of movement speed and attack speed of plants), etc. 4.) Marshland or floodplain-themed battle zone/Marshland or Floodplain world - flood, lakes, alligators, mosquitoes, etc. 5.) Island-themed battle zone/Island world - Tsunamis, coconut trees, crabs, turtles, low and high tide, etc. 6.) Volcano-themed battle zone/Volcano world - volcanic eruption, pyroclastic flows, volcanic ash, lava flows, explosions, volcanic tsunamis, toxic volcanic gas release, etc. 7.) Desert-themed battle zone/ Desert world - a cactus, sand, quicksand, sand storm, etc. 8.) Wasteland-themed battle zone/wasteland world - a tumbleweed, extreme drought, heatwaves, earthquakes 9.) Mountain-themed battle zone/Mountain world - landslide, large rock formations, tiles hanging on ropes, etc. 10.) Cave-themed battle zone/Cave world - gemstones, bats, glow worms, cave-ins/roof collapse: cave ceilings, particularly in large, unsupported rooms, can fall due to instability, resulting in a sinkhole, etc. 11.) Jungle-themed battle zone/Jungle world - poisonous gas-releasing plants, acid rain (poisonous rain), carnivorous plants that will eat Dave's plants (randomly), mudflows, flooding, a plant that can be planted on a tree or a tile on a tree (referring to ferns), snake, massive flora and fauna (large jungle trees with large roots & large flowers), etc. 12.) Forest-themed battle zone/Forest world - insect infestation, plant decay (decaying of Dave's plants and the surrounding area), decomposing materials/falling leaves or seeds (leaves or seeds are falling out of the trees), Piling of leaves on the forest floor, etc. 13.) Grassland-themed battle zone/Grassland world - wildfire, locust plagues, overgrazing (excessive grazing by livestock disrupts the plant community and can cause soil structure to collapse, leading to irreversible erosion), etc. 14.) Power plant-themed battle zone/Power Plant world - laser fences, a nuclear storage, etc. 15.) The Grid-Lock Substation-themed battle zone/The Grid-Lock Substation world - tiles with electric mine traps, an electric charging station, etc. 16.) Tesla forest-themed battle zone/Tesla forest world - Tesla coils, lightnings, thunder, etc. 17.) Halloween or Cemetery-themed battle zone/Halloween Cemetery world - tombstones (randomly appear on the battle zone), dying trees, plant-eating Halloween tree, voodoo hexes, and sorcery 18.) Haunted Mansion-themed battle zone/Haunted Mansion world - dilapidated things, old picture frames, a grandfather clock, collapsing tiles/floors, dark place or a total blackout (they need to plant a Plantern plant to see the tiles/floor) 19.) Lunar-Fall Citadel-themed battle zone/Lunar-Fall Citadel world - glowing skulls, hollow knights, revolving floor (moving tiles in a clockwise motion), etc. 20.) Lighthouse or Watchtower-themed battle zone/ Lighthouse or Watchtower world - concrete block wall, concrete windows, birds, a staircase (different tile or floor levels), falling debris, etc. 21.) Sky-themed battle zone/Sky world - clouds, tornadoes, slow forward-moving tiles, etc. 22.) Space-themed battle zone/Space world - meteors, comets, random-moving tiles, gravity, moon, floating rocks, etc. They can add more themed battle zones for a more fun gaming experience! Use AI tools for more creative ideas! (You can ask ChatGPT if you want to) I'm hoping that these suggestions will be implemented in the game. *A loyal fan of Plants Vs Zombies.Redo Level Base
The base amount of sun should return back to 100-150, 500 is way too much. U can get to a thousand sun before u get ur fifth zombie. However this would destroy the game in the current state. This is why point based waves should return and this time based one should go. Also because the current system makes it so u have a moments where u just gotta wait 10-20 seconds for a new zombie to appear while ur at 70% of the level please popcap, as im speaking for a lot of the players on discord, please reintroduce the point based system and reduce starting sunAbout that zen garden
Now I have seen people talking about how bad the zen garden is the most of the concept I am fine with the game but it will take you 255 days to get every plant at the moment so honestly to speed the process up a bunch remove the mini games they are far less fun then the main game itself and the fact you need them to grow plants but also remove the daily limit on how many plants you can plant in a day next step move the zen garden to a separate screen like the last two games did with the original having the most pots but I think for this the original zen garden size but a little smaller would work and also I think since there is going to probably be more fusions increase the number you get from a level 1 plant to 3 times more and plus I think it would be nice to water them aswell to earn coins when they are fully grown you only get seeds by harvesting them plus as they grow and request something you can earn up so yeah or don't do the xp part but mostly that would make the zen garden more zen instead of intense grinding so people tell me what you think because I would not play pvz 3 for almost a year but I do like the fusion part even though its a ripoff of a mod that came before it but it could be that they were inspired by it so idk but I honestly think that the fusions should look more cool like the mod it might be inspired byimprovement of quality of life
I've been playing the game for a while now, and I'm here to give my feedback, I'm currently in phase 54 of evnturavigilia 20 (easy completed medium in progress) Camp 5, a boring thing in the game and monotoma, and its progression, very slowly acquire new fuses or plant seeds so you can unlock the fuses, the game is requiring a great demand for real investment to make progress, those who like to play casually just like me suffer too much to acquire new plants, the limitation of the garden breaks us, gaining only 2 seeds every 8 minutes in total of 16 per day and very difficult to progress (that is, If you don't recharge and buy steel crops so you can plant in the garden again) I hope this feedback reaches EA and improves this in your game
MORE Ideas For Improving Plant/Zombie Interactions
Had a few more thoughts on potential plant/zombie interactions. Zaptail and Flying Zombies - Electric attacks should be able to arc and hit fliers like Balloon Zombie and Pigeons, straight up. Electricity isn't ground based, so it shouldn't be counted as such. Umbrella Leaf and enemy projectiles - Before you tell me this interaction exists already, I know - I just wanted to bring up the idea of Umbrella Leaf being able to not only NEGATE enemy projectiles like Bowling Zombie's bowling balls and Batter/Goalie's deflected projectiles, but also SEND THEM BACK TO THEIR THROWER for extra damage. I think it would give Umbrella Leaf a bit more usability as an alternative to Wall-Nut with lower health and mechanic-specific counters like lightning strikes. Spikeweed and Rock'n'Rollin' Imp - Back in the seedling build, Spikeweed was the specific counter to this zombie, popping its tire (much like how Spikeweed used to deal with Zombonis and Catapults in PVZ1) and forcing them walk towards your house. Why was this scrapped in favor of Rock'n'Rollin' having a "weakness" to Bop Choy? It feels a little random, and I think using Spikeweed to pop the tire is more intuitive. Lime Bomb and Es-Garg-ot's Slime - The Es-Garg-Ot miniboss's slime is said to be acidic, so wouldn't it make sense for Lime Bomb or plants fused with it to have an immunity to such attacks? We have plenty of zombies with specific damage immunities, and that's just one specific damage immunity for a plant that I can think of.Question regarding progress wipe after full global release
Hi everyone, I'm really enjoying the early access version of this game so far! I have a question regarding the transition to the full global release. Will there be a progress reset (wipe) for early access players once the game officially launches globally? Or will our progress and items be carried over to the final version? Thank you in advance for the clarificationF2P, grinding
Hello guys!!! Well, I'm really enjoying PvZ3, however, as a F2P player, I'd like 1 thing to change in the game. EA, for real the grinding system is soooo slow, like, I've had to grind for 1 week to unlock one level 2 evolution, not even a level 3, the game has a huge potential, but you guys can't make it as a impossible game, after level 64 it is almost impossible to finish the level if you don't buy things in the game. Also, I think that levels shouldnt be random levels. That's it, the game has huge potential, so please, listen to the communityYou Should Unlock Seeds after beating a level.
first let me state, I believe that unlocking fusions with seeds is completely justified. Base plants should be unlocked from levels. But it’s really hard to unlock fusions, so I suggest after beating a level you unlock seed packets of two plants (cause it’s PVZ Fusion) it doesn’t have to be much, even two seed packets would help. But unlocking seed packets for beating levels would be a great way of unlocking fusions without having you take 8 months just to unlock the plants from this build.Ideas For Improving Plant/Zombie Interactions
While reporting on some bugs I've noticed during my playthrough of PVZ3, I had a few ideas for fun interactions plants could have with certain zombies in the game: Tangle Kelp & Landscaper - The Landscaper uses a weed whacker to destroy plants one tile in front of him... but what if Tangle Kelp had the unique ability to jam the weed whacker, forcing Landscaper to eat plants like any other zombie? This was inspired by the Tangle Kelp's ability to negate the Zomboss Sharktronic Sub's vacuum ability back in PVZ2's Big Wave Beach world Potato Mine & Back Biters (Digger/Volcanologist) - In PVZ1, the Potato Mine had a unique interaction with the Excavator Zombie (which functions identically to PVZ3's Digger and Volcanologist Zombies) where the Excavator would trigger Potato Mine while attempting to dig underneath it, due to the Potato Mine also being partially underground. I think this ability should be brought back for PVZ3, as I think it would be a fun interaction that would give Potato Mine a bit more usability than it currently has. Lime Bomb & certain tool wielding-zombies - The Lime Bomb is the newest plant to be joining the roster of usable plants in PVZ3, but I think it lacks a bit of the flexibility that older plants have had - at the moment, it's a more expensive Potato Mine that explodes and deals acidic damage over time. I think it would be a fun idea for the acid to not only damage zombies through their armor, but also degrade certain metallic tools, such as Landscaper's weed whacker, Screen Door Zombie's screen door, or Batter Zombie's metal bat, making them unable to use their signature abilities. It would also give the Lime Bomb (and its evolutions) more usuability outside of the upcoming Sewer world and allow for more creative interactions between certain game elements. Anyways, what other interactions would you like to see between certain plants and zombies? I'm curious to here what other ideas y'all have that could spice up PVZ3 in its current state.
The "Perfect" PvZ 3: Evolved.
My idea of the perfect PvZ 3 would be making PvZ 3: Evolved a paid game (like the original Plants vs. Zombies 1) where everything is included or can be unlocked by playing, and obviously without microtransactions or absurdly overpowered, ridiculous, or weird plants. From PvZ 2, I’d take the variety of plants and zombies and the plantfood system. The fusion mechanic is very good, so you don’t have to overcrowd the game with plants like Repeater or others that are basically just combinations of two plants. I also really like the house decoration feature, but I’d expand the costumization even more (like adding accessories for plants). Anyways, is REALLY HARD to unlock new evolutions/fusions (almost impossible without paying a lot). It should be A LOT easier. All of that combined with a silly but fun story like in PvZ 2, and a campaign mode divided into worlds like in PvZ 2 (and with similar difficulty), but with more variety and everything mentioned before. (As i have seen, this game will have more "worlds" in the future, so that's good!) Also adding minigames in some levels would be cool! Like in PvZ 1 or 2. One more thing: The fact that the early access of this PvZ 3: Evolved includes a “3-star” system per level makes it feel like a low-quality, generic mobile game. And that would be it.What I like/ What I would Love to see
Okay I've been a fan of this game since Ancient Egypt (and even before) but I have a few critical takes- and compliments. LIKES - THE PLANTS / FUSIONS The fusions and unique plant designs are great, I really enjoy the creativity that went into these. ART STYLE The art style is great although the zombies could be slightly improved. GIMMICKS I like the new gimmick of lightning and that it effects electric plants differently. Very very cool. I LOVE GIMMICKS LIKE THIS BUT NEED TO SEE MORE COMMUNITIES The community aspect Is great, I think it would be awesome if the neighbourhood appeared on the home screen and you could scroll to see your neighbours in your community rather than clicking on community and clicking on who you want to visit. Would make it feel less lonely. ZEN GARDEN The zen garden puzzles I quite like the aspect of the puzzles to gain resources they are genuinely fun and look really cool. I hope to see more variation of these. DISLIKES - PLANT UNLOCK GRIND I've been playing the new beta daily since it came out am now on level 45 and have unlocked maybe 2 fusion plants. Which is extremely frustrating and makes it hard to want to keep playing. I REALLY REALLY WANT TO HAVE FUN WITH ALL THE AWESOME PLANTS BUT HAVENT BEEN ABLE TO. UNLOCKING WORLDS One thing I miss about pvz2 is the excitement of unlocking cool new worlds but here there is no real indication of when you are close to entering a new region. Also id love to see how far I am to unlocking the new section as that is often one of my biggest motivators for playing the game. I want to play more levels to get to the new world. I realize it is still in beta of course. Also a progression map would be cool though I don't mind the concept of new issues of comics. CUTSCENES. I like these I think they are done well except I feel there should be more story reason for going to the next world, like in PVZ2 Penny would say alright were going to Ancient Egypt etc.. but in this the world's don't correlate with the cutscene. It's just unrelated scene now you're in a new world with no explanation. It feels slightly jarring. LEVEL VARIATION People have mentioned this before so no need to go into too much detail. I understand it's still in beta but I'd love to feel more excited to see what the next level could hold. There is also that additional mode that says trial new plants and zombies which is a great concept but it doesn't actually give you a chance to use said plant even in those levels. I feel that would give me more incentive to earn them. ----- That's mostly it for now but I am keen and excited for the future and have been checking eagerly on a regular basis for updates. KEEP ON PLANTING GUYS! 🌿🌻
PvZ 3 idea
This is an idea of adding a boss to each world (I consider the snail Garg a mini boss) Dave’s house the boss could be dr zomboss meteor devour tower abilities: can summon gravestone and zombies Can call grave ambushes can stun plants in a 3x3 area Can summon tower bot zombies use mussels to destroy rows of plants Volcano: volcanic meteorite golem summons volcano zombies and throws meteors creates lava tiles that burn all non volcano zombies and non fire plants: (ice plants nearby turn the tiles back to normal over time) Lava geyser to destroy a row of plants Campground: Aqua meteor wizard zombie: summons campground based zombies calls in tidal waves to push plants back and zombies forward can flood tiles to create water lanes can call water surges can call whirlpool and lightning to stun plants muses tsunami to destroy a row of plants steam pot sewers: Meteor Plague doctor: calls in sewer zombies throws poison at plants to deal damage over time gives gas masks to zombies to make them immune to poison. spawns in gas bombs that deal damage to plants and zombies without a gas mask in a 3x3 area summons horde of diseased imps uses a special poison to destroy a row of plants Snow map: yeti meteor king summons snow zombies throws icicles to damage and chill plants creates Ice barricades Freeze all plants closest to him throws a huge ice block to destroy all plant in a lane spawns yeti imps
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