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10 years ago

A Guide for Beginners Citron Players. Analysis, Gameplay, Tips and Attitude.

Hi guys, im a regular Citron player. Recently i've heard many people arguing about the fact of Citron being a bad character.
This, is totally untrue.

You have to know there is a placebo effect that happens to players whenever they are going to play a character that has got nerfed (and this one got nerfed post-beta) that makes them think that character is not even more worth picking. This is one of the most problem that makes you play the character wrong. Sometimes nerfs could be unfair and maybe excessive, but sometimes they are not, and this is the case for this class.

First, i'll do a little brief about this character.
Citron is currently  a Tank/Support Plant Character with the highest quantity of Health Points between Plants, a powerful Area of Effect Stun, an additional shield that makes him much more tankier, a powerful beam with splash damage and a unique ability that makes him transform himself into a ball with other  two special abilities.
This means that Citron can really benefit 4 skills. But let's go deeper.

Empeach.
This special skill is Citron bread and butter. Is a really useful Area of Effect stun with a variety usage.
This skill has much more impact against a Mech and is really useful nowdays to stop S.Brainz TurboTwisting. But generally speaking you can also use this skill to protect yourself or your allies from Scientists.

Peel Shield.
There's really nothing to say about this skill. Makes you tankier and die less. Take note that whenever your shield is up you can't get critical hits.

Citron Ball
This is what make Citron a very versatile class. This ability makes you transform into a ball and increase your movespeed.

Hyper Ball
This is really good to rushing objectives and gives Citron a thing called "Map Pressure"

Spin Dash
Despite the fact this one does not deal tons of damage is very useful skill that also knock up zombies.

Attitude.
First, when you want to play this character you need to have a Citron attitude. You have to know both Citron flaws but also Citron qualities.
As i already said Citron is Support/Tank character. His kit has two crowd controls, a good quantity of Hp, a further shield and Map Pressure.

Why is Citron considered a Support Character?

Because he has no damaging spells but brings a lots of utility at his own team. You're probably not going to take a lots of kill with him. But that's totally fine. He's not a pure damage dealer like a PeaShooter or a Kernel Corn. Let your damage dealers carries do their job.

What is Map Pressure?
Map pressure is a special expression that is translated in the quality of a character to be quickly in any point of the Map thanks to: movespeed buffs, dashes, blinks, teleports, high jumps and so on.  Map Pressure is also translated in zoning power.

What is Zoning Power?

Zoning is when your character represent a huge threat for the enemy team, so they're forced to retreat or simply can't move forward because you suddenly changed the deploy of forces on the battlefield, and this will make enemies retreat since they can't anymore win a duel or a single trade, or will make them tilt, because they have not much enough information. For example a Scientist suddenly used a warp and he's trying to kill a Corn, but you suddenly appear. He has to make a decision, staying and kill both of you or retreat. If he has not much decision making he will eventually tilt and stay, and this will results in a dead Scientist if your empach is not on cooldown

Why this character is clunky?

Think about if Citron wasn't Clunky. Whenever you are going to lose a trade you can easily transform yourself into a ball and just run away in every situation, and this is bad because Citron Ball has no Cooldown!
Or even worst. Making yourself transform from ball to battle mode, reaching your target, empeach him quickly, shielding yourself quickly will eventually make him not only a huge frontliner but also a very good assassin. So there will be no reason to not run x6 Citron in your team and plant team will be overpowered.

You have to accept the fact you can't do all by yourself, and probably not going to take a lots of glory moments.

You're playing a character that brings utility. You have to accept the fact you can't win every single 1vs1 or appearing always in the top of scoreboard. Citron is not meant for the glory. Citron is meant for one thing.. this thing is called VICTORY.

But when i play Toxic PeaShooter my scores are always Better. How can i win with that?

Toxic PeaShooter score is faked. Is not that hard to steal underserved kills or taking underserved assist. What do you think is more worth as an assist? A toxic dot that deals so less damage or protecting a sunflower from a Scientist and kill him before your friend will die? There's nothing to discuss here.

How can i know if i played good?

Just don't care for your personal K/D. First, the thing you have to watch is your KDA (Kill + Assist/deaths) and your kill partecipation (the amount of kills you were involved by %)
Usually when the KDA is less than 2,5 does mean you usually played bad. You died too much. You have to think why have you died in first place? Maybe you were out of position or you was thinking to trade with someone fairly superior.  An average KDA is around 2.5 - 3.5. Anything else above 3.5 means you played correctly and you contributed to the win. What is Kill Partecipation? You just played a Team Vanquish and your team has won with 50 kills. Your score is 8/9/17. Your KDA is 2.78. Really nothing special. Maybe you died too much, but to compensate you are involved in 25 kills. That does mean pretty much you were involved in the 50% of team kills and you made the game

Choose your own Battle

You know you can't win a trade against a SharkBite at long range, and same way you can hardly win one against a Zoologist on close one. So choose your own battle. You have to know exactly how much damage your character does.

I always overheat my weapon! This weapon overheat too fast!

First most of classes just works once you unlock the upgrades. To fully maximize Citron power you have to Unlock "movespeed upgrade", "damage upgrade" and "overheat Upgrade"

Just listen the sound your weapon does. This will help you  to understand when it's going to overheat. One trick that could help you, you have to understand the nature of beam lasers. If you keep taking pressed the Fire Button the weapon will deal an certain amount of damage every  0,2 seconds. (i dont know, its just an example). But you also know that Laser Beam do damage at the first instance when touching an enemy. So if you manage to tapping your Fire Buttons virtually 5 times at second (not really hard than you think) you can do the same damage but the weapon will eventually last a little bit longer.

My abilities are clunky when i want to activate them!

Yes, when you press the Empeach and the Shield there is delay of time while your character can't use his laser beam, this will eventually means that you can't abuse all the stun duration of the Empeach and Shielding will make you lose against someone that will eventually kill you before you can kill him.
How can you solve these problems? To take profit of Empeach just group with someone, look, sunflowers at the moment are struggling. Help them and make their life less painful!
One more trick that could really help you is use your dead times. Don't use those abilities at the start of a duel, use them at the middle of a duel, when you want to refrigerate your weapon before goes on overheat, and take profit of those dead times.

Be greedy with your skills, don't use them unless is very necessary

Be greedy with your skills, don't waste them. Don't use your empeach at the first enemy you come  across. You have 200 Hp and a good laser beam, your set up allows you to trade back pretty much a lots of zombie classes. Use your Empeach properly to protect a team-mate, stop a S.Brainz Hero Kick/Turbo twisting or a Mech. Remember if you see a S.Brainz, don't waste your Empeach suddenly, attack him and force him to turbo twisting for the damage reduction, this is the right moment to empeach him, if you predict the exactly moment is going to turbo twisting he will eventually not dealing a single damage to you.
Once more little trick that can help you against Imps, whenever you are facing one of them, remember your weapon has some splash damage, and this can really help you a lot against a class that is really hard to aim. When you come across a Imp don't use suddenly your empeach if you know is gravity grenade in on cooldown, you have enough resources to kill him before he will eventually kill you. Watch his movements, if he is going to throw a gravity grenade just use your empeach at the same perfect timing. This will results in him not taking any advantage of his skills.

Be creative with your skills

If you see you are going to die anyway, transform yourself into a ball and make enemies chasing you. If eventually more than one zombies will chase you they will lost time and pressure in objectives. Or you can use your ball form to bait them into an ambush. Be creative. Be smart.

Be a Friend, Be a team-helper.

You're playing a character that is meant to come across the map and help the plants, tank damage for them and empeach zombies before they rushing to your team-mates.  Don't play like a lone wolve who search kills, if you see a zombie getting away with low HP but chasing him will make you lost a lots of times just letting him go if your team-mates meanwhile are getting troubles.

Correct your attitude

If you constantly think about Citron being clunky or weak, he will become clunky and weak. Correct your attitude. If you have to trust your character. That character is an expression of your gameplay, of your behaviour. You have to think you're playing a Strong or an Op Character no matter what. This will make you have better results.

Fitting your team-comp. Choose your own Citron

So you have to know flaws and qualities of each Citron.
Regular Citron has splash damage and high damage. You pick him in a normal situation. He's very good at killing Imps with the splash damage. You pick him when you are confident about your skills and want some more raw damage in order to have more chance to carry your team. Also the Splash damage is good against Imps.

Frozen Citron do so less damage and has no splash at all, also the weapon overheat a bit faster. You pick him when in the enemy team is full of Tanky class like S.Brainz or All-Star and your team lacks any Ice Class. You play him in order to get carryed, and instead of bringing more raw damage you just help your team by providing more utility. This class is also recommended if you are not that good at citron because he brings more utility than damage, so even if you have a bad score you have probably helped your team to the victory.

Electro Citron is the sniper variant. Take note he can move and jump while charging and this makes him very unique. His HeadShots do tons of damage. You can play him like a Sniper when your team lacks a presence of a Cactus.

 

Iron Citron is the tank variant. While his weapon takes a lot to reload, has low DPS,  doesn't have a lots of damage on mid-high range and he's extremely slower you can tank more damage. He is a very good counter to Scientists burst damage and if you're accurate trying to kill them with two shots. Also even if he Lacks DPS, his weapon has some burst damage, so is very good against all squishy classese..if you're accurate.

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  • A well written guide for aspiring Citron players. Always makes me happy when I see someone besides myself playing one - hopefully this boosts his popularity slightly. He's amazing to play once you get a feel for the class.

    Aside from learning to use his beam effectively, thing that makes him feel clunky initially (and usually is the hardest thing to get over) is learning to use both forms. I didn't play much Citron during the beta, as the form swapping felt super clunky back then. He just felt like one unnecessary gimmick to me back then. I gave him another shot when this game launched  - and I was pleasantly surprised by how well I did compared to when I played him in the Beta.

    The big thing I had to learn to do with Citron around launch was learning how to use EM Peach effectively. Once I learned rather quickly that the ability is an arcing projectile, it was just a matter of learning its capabilities to maximize it's potential. (And when to use the ability itself) As you said earlier, the beam does decent damage and is quite accurate. Combined with your peel shield, you can handle/deter most anything at mid range or beyond. EM Peach helps against Z Mechs, but it's also helpful at stopping Twister, Impkata, or even overconfident Scientist "ambushes".

    You won't likely get the most points as Citron, but you'll certainly get a lot of glory if you play him right - especially if you get support from a teammate or two. The Citron is quite a presence to either side - a good Citron player can take an area and keep it, provided he doesn't get rushed too hard. (This applies on Offense or Defense) Since the Citron is fairly mobile, he shift his claimed turf easily. Citron players are annoying to remove off points, especially if they have backup.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago

    This guide is ok but I think you are over emphasizing the attitude and mentality.

    You yourself just mentioned that after firing EM Peach, Citron can't fire his laser immediately after. How is this a good thing, at all? Part of the stun is wasted in his own animation/CD/self stun/whatever. It's only beneficial for other plants, sure but it isn't going to save him.

    Also I can understand not worrying about kills but you have to at least be able to get assists. You have to earn XP and coins some how and if all you are doing is pecking people with the beam a few times, doing 50-75 damage, getting no assists, and no kills you'll never level up the character.

    Low coin count, low experience? Why would anyone play this class again?

    I get I need to pick my battles, run around, etc etc. I've started doing that and will continue but being completely passive and not getting any assists or kills is a terrible thing to suggest/imply. Kills, Assists, Heals, revives, and streaks are important not because they get you on the glory podium but it gets you XP and coins. You can't generate XP or coins any other way unless you rather get it all in your backyard.

    Map Pressure is good and I saw the value of that while I ran around from place to place, harassing the zombies. However Scientist is very good at this but he gets kills for his effort. I on the other hand have to focus on getting assists or aiding other plants in battle in hopes of getting XP this way. While in the mean time I am shooting my beam I am completely vulnerable to attacks because of how turtle slow I am.

    You think someone with 4 legs like a bug/spider would move quicker than that. lol

    Yes I'm ranting a bit, I feel I was deceived in his presentation. He's nothing like he appears in the trailer or info. If he had a ninja mask or was depicted more as a stealthy character I wouldn't feel so cheated. Yet he's depicted as a tank and he's so bad at doing what you expect a tank would do. (I'm thinking MMO tank here, mind you)

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago

    @DawnOfNoob

    "You won't likely get the most points as Citron, but you'll certainly get a lot of glory if you play him right"

    Exactly my friend. My first moment playing this class i was used to do tons of mistakes.
    Using shield when not necessary, Empeach wrong targets, using Beam wrong and not taking advatage of the Splash damage to kills imps, moving forward to enemy faces without thinking about my clunky animations,  but once i figured the class i had many success.
    Its not rare that i appear in top of scoreboard with the regular Citron.

    With Frozen and Electro im more likely to take more assists, but that's fine since they are made for that.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago

    @Redlove108 dude, i had your same though at the start, but sometimes its not about learning tricks or tips, the thing that help you the most is your decision making. As long you play the game you will eventually increase it and you will not even notice, because its a natural thing. Continue playing the class, dont give up. Trust this class is already Op, and my only hope is to not get a * nerf, overall frozen one (not because frozen citron is op, but since zombies are spamming tanks for days, they will eventually complain after if Citron will be buffed.
    Back in the beta Rose was considered UP, when she was fine.. buffed and nerfed to a point she's less useful than when she was in the beta. I dont want the same thing will happen to Citron again, and im right to think this, because Citron has nothing to do with the fact that plants are losing.
    Plants are losing because Sunflower's and Cactus can't stand their counterparts, and on the otherside there are many Zombies which are incredible overpowered like Electro Brainz, Ac Perry, Tennis Star and Park Ranger, Lil drake. Whenever all these classes will eventually get a nerf, game will be much more enjoyable.

    By the way, if you feel that is hard to this class to get any Xp, you're right, is hard for any support class, and even for some carryes with Low Dps, for example i had hard times with Ice PeaShooter.

    If you dont feel confident, you can do some Garden Ops until you reach elite 5. Once you get Elite 5 you have the upgrades you need to play the class.

    Overheat and Mobility Upgrade are just staple and Damage Upgrade increase +1 both splash and direct damage... is +2 damage for each tick 🙂). You will notice a huge change.

    Most of classes works only with Upgrades, for example Law Pea is pretty orrible before the reload Upgrades, but once you get both he is incredible strong.


    Also why you think the Beam does low damage? You know at each ticki deals both Direct and Splash Damage right? They are just splitted but its not that bad at all.

    For the XP you're completely right, Devs are incredible stupid, assist should just give the same amount of XP, and that's why support classes are discouraged to play.. fair point.


    For the coins i dont honestly know, i read on Reddit you just earn coin based on how much time the match lasted, so pratically if i ddnt read wrong you just earn the same coin your allies are earning, but im not sure.

    Look my friend, yesterday i won pretty much more than 50% matches as a plant, at least on Team Vanquish. I did many good scores with him, so i know what am i talking about.
    This class is one of the few good ones in the current meta. Whenever i win its mostly because plant team is balanced and i noticed an increase number of Citrons Players.
    At least on Origin, seems on pc meta is much more balanced, i cant really explain that.


    EDIT: To clarify, for the clunky Empeach animations just group with a friend. You can premade with him and coordinate or just follow one of your team-mate and mostly will be fine. If you are not going to win many 1vs1, you will win for sure any 2vs2 with an AoE stun. I used to duo premade with a friend that mains Alien Flower.

    Believe me or Not, Frozen Citron and an Alien Flower are a deadly combination.
    Zombies are generally strong in 1vs1 scenario, thats why when you play Zombie you can play like a noob, dont give a **** about your team-mates and enjoying playing Rambo for 10 minutes.
    Plants are not meant to play like this. Plants are stronger in teamfights, so dont go alone at 1vs1 people, just play with your group. Even if you dont agree with their movements pattern, sometimes is better to do something wrong together rather than playing your own game and lose.

    This is at least on team vanquish, the only thing that you cant deal in turf are Mechs conquisting gardens, even my guide cant help with that, Mechs need to be limited, so just play this mode and with Citron, if you will get any good you will going to carry matches alone just by yourself.

  • Well one of the big reasons someone should play Citron is that he can deal with the Superhero/Imp/Scientist Zombie meta - mostly thanks to his EM Peach and his beam attacks. If you catch a 125 hp or lower class out of position, they WILL be dead or hurting if you hit them with the EM Peach. Your success depends on how quickly you can adjust from lobbing the peach correctly to being able to aim and fire your weapon at him - which can be devastating if you can freeze a character in that moment as the Frozen Citron.

    He is relatively tanky as a character thanks to his HP and his shield. (He's also surprisingly nimble in ball form and tricky to hit if you do it right) While it doesn't always help at close range, Citron can still do well there (or at mid range) thanks to his abilities. While the Citron can't annihilate people quickly like the Scientist, he DOES have twice the HP, a shield, and an aoe stun that'll usually let you kill a Scientist or Imp no problem - even if they regain mobility.

    Another big part of your team's overall success is your team comp. Having too many of one class (Usually Corn plants side) generally hurts rather than helps. For example, all the damage in the world means nothing if you don't have a healer or a tank to peel for you. (Kinda like any MMO)

    Experience with any class helps - and Citron is no different. (And having experience with something other than Corn is usually a godsend to a Plant Team's offense or Defense.) I generally do pretty well with the guy myself, but as I implied in my other post, it took time to learn how to play the class. I usually play somewhat aggressively, which usually works out for me - as I always seem to go positive. It helps that you can transform on a dime and roll away quickly if things get too rough.

    Part of WHY I enjoy playing Citron so much is that I get to be "THAT GUY" to the enemy team - I LOVE stopping engis from setting up TPs thanks to the Citron's mobility and ability to stay there to harass. I enjoy making overconfident Scientists/Imps/Superheroes cry when I ruin their big pushes/counterpushes with EM Peach. If I'm feeling EXTRA sadistic, I go Frozen Citron for that extra Icy utility - for example, I love to freeze (and later kill) barreled Deadbeards hoping for an easy clutch kill. 

  • ACactoos's avatar
    ACactoos
    10 years ago

    Good guide

    One thing that should be emphasized a bit more is the Spin Dash. When caught in a Turbo Twister with EMPeach unavailable, do not give up. The moment this happens, turn into Citron Ball and use Spin Dash on or away Super Brainz to escape the situation.

    @Redlove108, Citron does have somewhat of a ninja mask accessory. Have it gold currently and it looks amazing on the Party Citron.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago

    @Redlove108 read dawn of noob comment, you will understand what im trying to saying.

    @DawnOfNoob"Another big part of your team's overall success is your team comp. Having too many of one class (Usually Corn plants side)" OH FINALLY SOMEONE SAID. IM SICK TIRED OF ALL THESE MOB , POP AND KERNEL CORNS FEEDING, GOING AFK AND THEN CHANGING TEAM, i wish he ddnt get a buff last patch so at least casual players woulded have continued spamming Toxic Pea Shooter and getting carryed and Pro Gamers playing BBQ like they was already doing. Jeez.
    The week when Mob Corn was Free and Electro Brainz too was the most horrible one 🙂)))

    @ACactoos iddnt mention because i ddnt want to specific every single situation but just generally speaking.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago

    #CitronMasterRace

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