10 years ago

Balance Suggestions Surrounding The Imp

So I kinda feel like the imp isn't where he is suppose to be so ill give some feedbacks 😕

I've played alot of Lil drake and Pylon imp and felt the same thing for both of them.The imp is somehow stronger than the mech.

The whole concept of the imp is to be a weak little guy before he gets his mech and dominates when he does.

But everytime i pull out my mech i just get all kinds of focus on me like shuckshots timesnares and chomps.

Heres the reason i think why.

-The mech is a huge target

-People always target the mech because they think its a big threat

Instead i feel the imp is already pretty dominating without his mech,but he is pretty vulnerable in his mech suit.

One reason is that you can't really escape the suit as quick as possible,it takes around 3 seconds.

Also i feel the imp is better without his mech suit becase

-He is a small target,very hard to hit without aoes

-Jumps around and just destory plants

You actually have to play more safe in the mech suit than the imp because you die much faster in it in multiplayer sense most people just target mechs.

Heres what i think should happen to the imp

-Nerf imp's health

-Improve mech's health

-Improve mech's escape speed

This way the imp can be pretty weak without his mech but actually be strong with his mech sense most people just target the mech

18 Replies

Boolerex
10 years ago
@LanZhang26 wrote:

One reason is that you can't really escape the suit as quick as possible,it takes around 3 seconds.

Actually,if you want to escape from the mech quickly. You have to "prepare" the escape button. There is a forced delay of 2 second between the first and the second button press to prevent accidental mech escape. But pass that delay,it actually fairly quick. There also timer in which the explosive escape button appear before closing down to. You you have to time around that too.

As for mech health,if I remember well it was nerfed because of Z-mech rush.
LanZhang26
10 years ago
yes but i found the imp mechs underwhelming specially because after the corn buff there are more corns in the battlefield which are perfect counter to mechs and the ordinary imp is much stronger than mechs in my opinion right now
Screion
10 years ago
So... After playing even more i have changed my mind. The Imp health needs to be reduced to 50 HP again.
As much as i like the HP to support my play style - seeing how others play the Imp needs a drastic adjustment.
I see no Imp playing carefully. Just rush the open field and the first opponent he sees nearby gets
gravity grenade - > impkata
and so on...
gravity grenade - > impkata
gravity grenade - > impkata
gravity grenade - > impkata
gravity grenade - > impkata
gravity grenade - > impkata
gravity grenade - > impkata
and on...
gravity grenade - > impkata
gravity grenade - > impkata
gravity grenade - > impkata
....
And if that wasn't enough the Pylon Imp deals way too much splash damage. The gravity grenade is a guaranteed multi-vanquish with the pylon.
Less health will simply stop the careless players. Down to 50 HP again to embrace the Camo Shot or Fire Balls.
The rest, aside of too many gravity grenades and too much splash from pylon, seems completely fine to me.
Anonymous
10 years ago
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The best imp mech is the standard imp's mech. His L1 homing rocket ability will net you kills. It's much better than some of the other mechs abilities. I think they might need to slow down his(the imp himself) RoF or something. And I don't know if 75 hp is actually necessary. He is really strong in his current state, or at least I'm very capable of going out and getting lots of kills with him. But if I were the devs I would do it step by step. Because when they increased his hp and his primary firing capabilities I feel like it was too much too fast. So maybe start slowly ramping him back down.
LanZhang26
10 years ago
they need to buff the z7 mech its abilities are so bad
Boolerex
10 years ago
@Screion wrote:

gravity grenade - > impkata

Why following a gravity grenade with impkata when you can simply shoot them.

@LanZhang26 wrote:

they need to buff the z7 mech its abilities are so bad

He balance that with a very good primary though.
LanZhang26
10 years ago
i feel like the bionic pull ability's velocity is too slow it is just so hard to hit plants with it and the ability takes so long to cast in general you basically can not move or do anything performing the two z7 abilities its basically asking for corns to destory you
MrFitzTantrum
10 years ago
I feel like removing damage taken by plants affected by the gravity grenade from impkata would go a long way in fixing the imp. To me it doesn't really make sense that he's hitting plants that are a good 4-5 feet above him when he's holding his guns horizontal anyways.
At least we would get rid of the grenade ---> impkata spam every match.
Anonymous
10 years ago
Approved
Uh no.

If anything imp is OP. He's fine when there's 1 or 2 on a team but when there's 4-5 it's just a matter of time before the zombies cap a point because there's a seemingly endless amount of mechs to manage. This is especially true with lil drake who has 400 health AND a shield.

People seem to think that when you call down your mech that you're some unstoppable killing machine for its duration. And that's just flat out wrong. I see so many people call down mech and just dive into the 5-7 people and dying quickly as a result. The best imp players know that the mech doesn't make you a Rambo solo kdr inflating machine, It means you have more health to play around with SMARTLY.

Imp is still kind of absurd when he's not in mech. He effectively has 100 health when he's using impakata due to the damage reduction.

Something needs to be done about the grenade, it is undodgable and lasts slightly too long. At the very least, you should be able to look around and aim normally so at least you have a right chance.
Anonymous
10 years ago
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Gravity grenade following impakata isn't even good. It does too little damage and won't even kill anyways. Your better off just using your primary weapon to kill them off.