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34975634954957
6 years ago

Balancing Patch - place your bets now

Sooo... We hear more about the next balance patch on Friday. Thought it would be fun to hear everybody's guesses and predictions and then we see who was closest (note: popcap employees not allowed to participate!).

My predictions to start us off:

All Star - shield cooldown increase and very slightly slower fire rate.

Acorn - larger hit box as acorn, but less transformation time into oak.

Rose -  increased cooldown for enigma

Citron - less delay for activating Spin Dash. +1 damage per shot.

Corn - +1 damage per shot.

Chomper - some kind of fix to make it Burrow work better and easier to catch somebody 

Cactus - lesser cooldown for the drone special attack whatever it's called

Space Station - reduced shield health, less activation delay for regular space cadet laser ability

18 Replies

  • GutmanSca's avatar
    GutmanSca
    6 years ago
    @34975634954957 Nerf S. Dragon, Rose, All Star, Soldier, E. Slide, Nightcap, 80s A. Hero and Engineer.

    Add dropoff.

    And please, PLEASE, buff and fix SB, buff Corn's health and Shuck Shot's cooldown.
  • GutmanSca's avatar
    GutmanSca
    6 years ago

    Oh, I just forgot Sunflower, Peashooter and Chomper's Slobber Shot. At this point the entire cast expect 4 or 5 characters needs nerfs lol, or just buff the others.

  • 34975634954957's avatar
    34975634954957
    6 years ago
    @GutmanSca wrote:

    Oh, I just forgot Sunflower, Peashooter and Chomper's Slobber Shot. At this point the entire cast expect 4 or 5 characters needs nerfs lol, or just buff the others.

    Yeah agree it would be better to "nerf" some characters by leaving them alone but buffing others instead. 

  • Pheesley's avatar
    Pheesley
    6 years ago

    Scientist and Sunflower needs Nerfs bad. Sunflower's healing is too powerful. Sunny side up makes her really difficult to kill.

    Scientist Warp is way too easy to use and also makes him difficult to kill. You can't really predict the direction of warp and it happens instantly. I think they should reduce Sunny side up and Warp to 2 charges Max for starters. They both are just way too spammable, and I never understood why scientist ever had 3 warps

  • Pheesley's avatar
    Pheesley
    6 years ago

    Rapid Fire needs to be a side grade and they need to buff Soldier and Corn damage again. By like 1 more damage. It seems they are reluctant to buff these guys. Right now Soldier without Rapid Fire cannot compete with the DPS of the Attack Plant Classes.

    They really should have left these guys alone and kept there stats from GW2 but oh well

    Also Please Popcap. This game needs Falloff damage. So many characters, (Chomper, All-star, Acorn, Imp, Nightcap are the biggest offenders) should not be doing the same damage at all ranges. 

  • Pheesley's avatar
    Pheesley
    6 years ago

    I imagine they will nerf Time Snare and Jazz Hands too. The stuns from these upgrades last too long and are just not fun to fight against

  • The4DAdvocate's avatar
    The4DAdvocate
    6 years ago

    @PheesleyFoot soldier and Corn in gw2 we're far from balanced, for a "jack of all trades" they we're able to do a monstrous 100dps (comparing that to other characters, super brainz and chomper did around 70dps which they have to get up close to people). If they got slight buffs like their rof being increased slightly, then that would be fine however a jack of all trades should never excell at anything.

  • The4DAdvocate's avatar
    The4DAdvocate
    6 years ago
    @34975634954957 I'm guessing all star, nightcap, chomper, and acorn are gonna be hit with heavy fall off nerfs (actually no, I'll guarantee that at least 2 of these characters will be hit with it heavily). Hopefully they adress these issues but my hopes is that they nerf the upgrades which are pretty much must haves like hardened (shouldn't exist in general, would be fine if it only affected oak and not acorn), parkour (just very annoying), rapid fire (gives soldier a massive damage increase with barely any consequences), and hard target (this upgrade could be a 5 cost and it would still be really good). Make it so arcane can't be used as a get out of jail free card, nerf healing in general, make it so scientist has less sustain but an actual shotgun, and many more I could name but I'm not going to.
  • chogath_player's avatar
    chogath_player
    6 years ago
    @34975634954957
    Rose - Arcane engima duration should get nerfed. along with its cooldown.
    Corn - Health buffed back to 150, slight damage increase at the cost of slower fire rate
    Soldier - Rapid fire and sticky stinkc cloud upgrade costs increase
    Snapdragon - flame blower ranged nerfed. blue blazes damage reduced so it doesnt oneshot everything.
    SB - health buff. maybe a walkspeed buff.
    Chomper - walkspeed buff. slobber shot fire rate nerfed.
    Citron - fire rate buff. hopefully something to do with naval laser being reworked (buffed or deleted)
    Allstar - increase overheat duration. decrease the time it takes to overheat football cannon (shoots for shorter periods of time, with longer breakes inbetween). Health of the dummy inside the dummy shield buffed ever so slightly.
    Cactus + deadbeard - Health reverted back to 125
    acorn - hardened nerfed to +25 hp OR hardened cost is increased.
    sunflower - hp reverted back to 110. heals are nerfed.
    Scientist - warp nerfed. fire rate buffed.

    Filler upgrades to be buffed, reworked, replaced or deleted: bowling, peachy, speedy, refreshing revive, vampiric, ready up, cornucopia, molasses, slap back, rewind, mirage, fallback, bon voyage, alacrity, sustenance, shadow tribute, uppercut, shockwave, bottomless, liftoff, arm day, energise, typhoon, recuperate, hero's moment, track star, malfunction, photosynthesis, explosive gatling, last ditch, vampire spikeweed, symbiosis, dirt bath, mastication, stuffy sundrop, shove, recharge.

  • TheSprinter85's avatar
    TheSprinter85
    Hero
    6 years ago

    There are some characters that need way more balancing than some others, but the two big abilities that I suppose should be looked at are:

    • The Rocket Ride for 80s Action Hero
    • The Arcane Enigma for Rose.

    For the Rocket Ride, even the splash damage is extremely high. You can destroy all the small characters and Oak really quickly and its activation time is very low. Think of this ability as Pea Gatling or Husk Hop 2.0. Even if the direct damage stayed the same but the splash got reduced, it should make a large difference.

    For the Arcane Enigma, it can be activated extremely quickly with low delay. If enigma lasts longer than it does now, it wouldn't make the ability more broken particularly BUT they should increase the cooldown of it and have a longer delay before the ability resolves.

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