Future request/idea for next GW ?

Requests? I've got too many. 🙂

I'll separate mine based on General or Personal. But I wonder if my ideas sound good enough to be worth remembering as I tried suggesting ideas for a different game and didn't get more than one response.

General

1. Revert the sticker pack system to Garden Warfare 1 style, where you were guaranteed to get everything instead of having a bottomless pit of consumables I hardly ever use anyway (I have 200+ team retries).

1a. To make this system work, limit consumables to a certain number like 20 so that players think about buying consumables to help out.

1b. Offer different pack levels of consumables for different coin amounts where you know you're getting what you want (5 ice shrooms, for example), yet have the basic pack of a random selection still be available to have the feeling of being lucky.

1c. Once someone has every basic item in the game, offer time-gated accessories at two or four times the price. This wouldn't include abilities because...

1d. Instead of players yearning or complaining when the next ability is going to be available, have RUX sell a new one every two weeks and have a repeat of the previous four every two months. This cycles every year, but maybe someone happened to miss it for those two chances? In that case, after the second RUX sell of that ability, offer it as part of a RUX sticker pack that costs a million coins, but guarantees getting a missed ability. That way, it's not as punishing as waiting an entire year for a resell.

2. Make consumables stronger, but not necessarily in the form of pinpoint accuracy. (A shot from a pot/weed shouldn't hit a parrot 100% of the time, better at 20%.)In GW1, there was a certain spot on the beach I was always afraid to approach as a zombie because I feared there'd be a Bonk Choy waiting there to One-Hit KO me. In GW2, I never had that feeling other than the "Infinite Ammo" Super Mix Modes featuring Scaredy Shrooms or Hide-n-Shoot Bots. Buff up their health, damage... and in turn, make summoning/growing these consumables take a few seconds instead of being instant pots/bots. That'd encourage more strategy, caution, and teamwork. Kind of like how some players give priority to the Rose or Engineer for their teleporters.

2a. Growing plant pots as a sunflower or building bots as an engineer takes half as much time.

3. Limit the amount of character classes. For example, there can only be at max two Chompers in a competitive match. That way, there's never three Torchwoods ruining anyone's day or a ganging up of six Z-Mechs on a garden.

4. Have minigames in the (hopefully huge) public Backyard Battleground. That soccer game, for example. When the teams are equal in player count, and one wins after a ten-minute match, have the winning players get 7,500 coins and the losers 5,000. That way, it's another random thing to do with friends, but not farming coin-like.

4a. Have there be a microgame of the classic Plants vs. Zombies as a throwback. And if someone beats the game, give them an exclusive hat with PopCap's/EA's logo that all characters can wear.

5. I haven't played Plants vs. Zombies: Heroes myself, but if trying to encourage interest, why not put Easter Eggs of the game? Or advertisements--like those random flyers with Dr. Zomboss sponsoring Boss Tonic or something. I know there was one a while ago of a real yogurt brand and Ice Citron promoting it to you with a quest. That can work, too.

Personal

1. I want to do more taunts and have more taunts as a Sunflower! Two is just too little. The "Follow" gesture in GW1 was extremely helpful at times while the "Wave" was a good way to say hi for those players without mics.

2. Increase the payouts for Garden Ops/Graveyard Ops/Boss Hunts/Gnome Bomb.

2a. Particularly for boss hunts, give a bonus for back-to-back completion so that randoms will be less likely to leave in a boss hunt lobby. The best I can come up with is having the reward for Normal be 50,000 coins, Hard 100,000 coins, and Crazy 200,000 coins. Why the staggering amounts of coins? If you're limited on consumables, things can get hard. After exiting that lobby, if you repeat any difficulty with a member you've already won with, the rewards are cut in half for you.

2b. Let there be a voting system for boss hunts as well as a status indicator of players having beaten certain difficulties to move onto the next.

3. Take time and ask veterans (after having spent 200 hours of in-game time) of Garden Warfare for opinions over game balancing or what is fun and not fun. I remember filling out a survey long ago when the game first launched and giving a less than wonderful review because of the issues with Rose being overpowered and the way I perceived Infinity Time as an annoying chore. Reward those people with a dynamic PvZ background, depending on the console that they filled it out from.

3a. Take time and ask GW newbies (after having spent 20 hours of in-game time) of what they believe is fun and what they'd like to see, and reward them with a character sticker pack for their input.

4. This is kind of pushing it, but reward player loyalty and have something like a bank to where if enough coins are funded by the community (like one billion, for example), DLC will be rolled out for everyone. If players use money to buy coin packs, they have the option to dump it all into the bank for four times the amount.

4a. If this bank system were to happen, there would need to be absolutely no exploitation on coins. In other words, some sort of in-game gimmick that doesn't let players pick up coins/bags/diamonds for more than five seconds straight or testing every now and then.

@asukojo

I agree with all your requests. Virtual Reality would be so weird in third-person so I imagine it'd need to be in first-person. And even then, it'd probably still be a weird (but awesome) experience looking at friends or foes as plants or zombies with all their customizations and silly taunts.

Well, this took me a while to compose, and I'm allergic to Twitter. But coming from someone who has yet to reach Max rank in Garden Warfare 2 (currently 4541) after two years, what do you think?

Perhaps some new classes for the next GW instalment, a new type of storyline, new type of world hub, the ability to play in offline mode (requiring no online accounts or internet connections whatsoever), a new map creator, more character variants, reworked sticker shop, a streamlined stickerbook etc.

New Classes - Plants

Melon - A new type of plant class that throws whole melons at enemies in an arc-firing pattern, headed by War Melon. Based on the Melon-Pelt from the original Plants Vs Zombies.

Shroom - The first plant class where mushrooms can now be controlled by players, headed by Battle Shroom. They are small, agile characters equipped with dual, scatter-type weapons, and they can call in their massive Giant Shroom Mechs to aid them in battle.

Apple - A new type of plant class where they specialize in suppressing their enemies. They are headed by war veteran, General Apple.

New Classes - Zombies

Robo-Soldier - Previously seen in GW2, the Robo-Soldiers get their chance to be in the spotlight, headed by their namesake leader, Robo-Soldier. They can punch their enemies up close, and can fire rockets at enemies from afar.

Dog - This new zombie class has the ability to burrow into the ground, move along, and then eat their enemies very sneakily, and their bites pack a punch at close range. They are headed by Zombie Dog.

Magician - A new zombie class headed by Zombie Magician. Their weapons work in a manner similar to the Rose class, where the projectiles coming from their wands can track down enemies. The magicians have the ability to the Sheepify their enemies, turning them into harmless sheep.

New Storyline

(from a narrative perspective)

The Gnomes have suddenly invaded Suburbia/Zomburbia, and - in a flash - have banished the plants and zombies from their home. The Gnomes claim Suburbia/Zomburbia for their own, renaming it "Gnomurbia", assuming absolute authority in their newfound territory.

The plants and zombies then find themselves on another part of the world, where - after getting their bearings - they have no choice but to come together and form an alliance to eliminate the gnomes and reclaim their home. Lead by Crazy Dave of the Plants and Dr. Zomboss of the Zombies, they are hoping for a miracle that will make the Gnomish army leave their realm for good.

So begins a long, costly battle to reclaim their home.

Hub World

A new type for hub world where it's continually expansive, becoming larger than GW2's backyard battleground. The Hub World is divided into several areas for the player to explore.

Plants House and Zombie House - Peaceful, calm areas where the player can relax and recharge before his/her next outing. They are equipped with recreational areas for players to do things.

Plants and Zombies Training Grounds - This is where players can try out new characters, do target practice, basic challenges, and more.

The Central Hub - This new location in the form of an ever-expansive battlefield has many new secrets for players to explore. Includes the Flag of Power, the mystery portal, the stickerbook, the sticker shop, and more. Garden Ops, Graveyard Ops, Co-operative Ops, Multi-Ops, various Multiplayer modes and more can be accessed by a single control panel found on either side of the hub.

Online Requirements

No online account or internet connection will be required to play this new GW instalment, making it the first game in the GW series to be playable in offline mode. Families with young children will benefit from this. Some areas of the game - multiplayer modes, online split-screen, player loyalties etc., will be unavailable unless the player as an online connection.

Map Creator

A first for the GW series, maps can be created and edited to one's desired spec. It applies to maps involving Ops mode, Co-Operative Ops mode, Multi-Ops mode, Team Vanquish, Vanquish Confirmed, Suburbination etc. The Hub - and  it's smaller areas - can be edited as well, giving players a greater level of freedom.

More Character Variants

Most existing classes from GW2 will return with new variants, such as more Electro/Power characters, more Toxic characters, more Fire characters, more Ice/Frozen characters etc. There will also be a supremely large increase in the amount of variants for each class in the game.

Sticker Shop

The sticker shop comes with a dozen sticker packs, such as:

Mixed Reinforcements Pack - Gives 5 consumables ranging from pots and bots for defense, and weeds and browncoats for the offense against the enemy. Cost - 2,000 coins

Pots and Bots Reinforcements Pack - Gives 5 consumables consisting of Pots for the plants, and Bots for the Zombies. Cost - 2,500 coins

Weeds and Browncoats Reinforcements Pack - Gives 5 consumables consisting of Weeds for the plants, and Browncoats for the zombies. Cost - 2,500 coins

Uncommon Customization Pack - Gives 5 customization items for changing the appearance of your character. Gives at least one Uncommon item. Cost - 5,000 coins

Rare Customization Pack - Gives 7 customization items for changing the appearance of your character. Gives at least one Rare item and a Rare character sticker. Cost - 10,000 coins

Super Rare Customization Pack - Gives 9 customization items for changing the appearance of your character. Gives at least one Super Rare item and has the best chance of a Super Rare character sticker. Cost - 25,000 coins

Plants Customization Pack - Gives 9 customization items for the plants, and has the best chance of a Super Rare plant character sticker. Cost - 30,000 coins

Zombies Customization Pack - Gives 9 customization items for the zombies, and has the best chance of a Super Rare zombie character sticker. Cost - 30,000 coins

Spectacular Character Pack - Guarantees a new Rare or Super Rare character instantly. Cost - 50,000 coins

Legendary Pack - contains 5 Legendary items, also contains Legendary consumables and has the best chance of a Legendary character sticker. Cost - 150,000 coins

Scrumptious/Infinite Pack - contains 5 items and is a mix of Scrumptious and Infinite items to customize your character. Cost - 100,000 coins

Boss Hunt Mixed Pack - contains 15 consumable Pots and Bots to help you in the fight against a tough boss where both the Plants and Zombies must fight against as one team. Cost - 20,000 coins

Boss Hunt Plants Pack - contains 15 consumable Pots to help you in the fight against a particularly tough boss. Only available when a specific boss hunt is active. Cost - 20,000 coins

Boss Hunt Zombies Pack - contains 15 consumable Bots to help you in the fight against a particularly tough boss. Only available when a specific boss hunt is active. Cost - 20,000 coins

Stickerbook

The stickerbook has been revamped, with silver, gold, diamond, gem, scrumptious, infinite etc., versions appear in small boxes sitting to the right of a particular customization item. Minimizes the amount of pages in the stickerbook.

This is basically what I can think of at the moment.

If there is a GW3 or another potential sequel, I would like to see:

Making new game modes while ensuring that they are both lucrative enough and that players can find other people easier.

-I see people, especially newbies, pick TT as it gives "more coins" than the other game modes or not finding enough people to quickly complete a game of surburbination or vanquish confirm. I am hoping that with a new game, we can get more consistent as well as fair matchmaking.  In terms of new mode, I would love to see a mode where zombies and plants actually work together (being on the same team) to take down a much larger threat (Gnomes, Hybrids of zombie and plants, etc).

Bringing back maps and delivering players new ones, while keeping in mind size and purpose.

-Most people want to see older maps return, an issue that I perceive is with the addition of other character classes and players who may be unfamiliar with GW1's maps (they started with GW2).  I worry that the map might receive an extra extension like some of the maps in GW2, which could hinder players on certain areas that were not designed for such extensions.  Keep maps the way they were, allow new players to experience the map as if you were playing GW1.  I want my golf course to remain only a 4 par stroke.

Offline Play

-Both GW1 and GW2 require you to be online to play, it makes kind of sense as it is multiplayer-focused, but with the heavy requests for a single player campaign and the hub world that was added in GW2, the "need" for being online has lost its purpose.  It would be cool to just jump into the game without having to worry about signing in, especially if someone has internet troubles; maybe have an item in the backyard can allow the player to jump online to offline (allowing more freedom with player choice).

Character Choice and Team Role

-Everyone wants new classes and variants, but I would rather see more characters designed for more than just support or assault.  I.e. not seeing stunning, invincibility, heavy damage, or movement abilities, but moreover blockades, knockback, or visual pollution. (Love to see a gardener zombie who could use a leaf blower which does no damage to push back a lane of plants).  More melee characters would be fun.

Sticker Shop/Leveling

-Either specialize stickers to have people obtain [or possibly find on online maps] what they actually want or make it more viable (less grinding) to grab coins during playtime. This would help to eliminate complaints about not finding specific items to complete the book or obtain characters/skill, also please a buy multiple sticker option as buying them one at a time adds to the grind. The same can be applied to leveling, but switch xp to challenges as it is not makes it much easier, but helps newer players to learn about their character.

Server maintenance and improved bug/issue resolution.

-With a new game, I do expect better server experiences for all game modes with better frame performance.  GW2 has had many technical issues, and it is understandable as it houses 24 or more players per match, yet when playing a mystery portal event for a hour or more, lag spikes should not appear exceptionally frequently.  Also when an issue occurs with a character, map, or code, it would be great rather than on the day of scheduled maintenance for servers, to isolate the problem (remove the map from the lineup or person cannot pick character) and then quickly have it resolved. Though that option is more difficult, if issues can resolved a lot quicker than waiting a week or more.

GW3, or whatever this potential game be called, will be an interesting process as it will allow us to see what direction the devs will take with the series.  As this journey with GW2 begins to come to a quiet conclusion, this new road opens up leading off into a horizon of unfamiliar, yet exciting change.

"It's said war - war never changes. Men do, through the roads they walk. And this road - has reached its end." -Ulysses {Fallout:NewVegas Lonesome Road}

Two words - Remove Chompers.

I posted to that tweet just now. I have my own massive thread for what I want for GW3: https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/Thoughts-for-GW3/m-p/6041201#M24044

That's pretty much what I want today as well.

I miss the good old map of the first GW... Maybe they could add in the regular map rotation a classic only character with classic abilities in the classic GW map (Garden Warfare 1). This way, they won't have to change the maps to much. 

For the rest, I agree with almost everything you mentionned in your thread

sorry for my english

I love Gnome bomb when goes overtime and the remaining base is end to end of the map and we keep back and forth bringing the bomb to enemy lines. This inspired me to create a specific game mode that mimics this intense battle:

Destroy castle/base battle:

1. Both teams have a base and they spawn from the base. Plants base is a beautiful garden while zombie base is Spooky Cemetery.

2. There is a bomb in the middle of the map. Both team has to race to grab the bomb first and carry it to the enemy base and set up the bomb on the target (Pretty flower on plants side, scary zombos tombstone on the zombie side with 5 seconds timer) and hold it (30-45 seconds timer). 

3. If they able to destroy it, they win the game.

4. If no team can destroy it, we go to overtime which is similar to gnome bomb. The one can touch it, immediately win.

What do you guys think about this game mode? 

I like the concept, but how would the mode "truly separate" itself from gnome bomb and what would incentivize players to pick it over gnome bomb?

Maybe instead have no timer, it could be first one to place the bomb, giving the same feeling as if it were overtime.  The map is stretched a little longer, though with team size and side equality kept in mind and so the game can go into long firefights, where there are very specific endpoints to place the bomb as you had mentioned.  Additionally, have options that could allow players to set up defenses (hold button for 5 seconds, builds a wall/destroys bridges leading to other side, or players can command turrets or cannons like in GW1).

Great idea ! Build defense, build an offense, spawn an army, build a bridge (destroy enemy bridge), pass through to narrow and dangerous tunnel near the base, climb a wall, hold the line, that sound like a real and challenging war 🙂  

Remind me of a movie 300: Spartan versus Xerxes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrIbxk7idYA

It will be a meme war between two nemeses: Plants VS Zombies GW3 !!!

I want the Plants and Zombies to team up to go against the Gnomes.