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xcrimsonlegendx
10 years ago

GW2 Tuning/Balance Notes Feedback from Beta

COPIED FROM A POPCAP REDDIT POST

Hi guys, a note from Justin Wiebe, Creative Director for PvZGW2, posted to the Garden Warfare Subreddit first.

 

I want to take this opportunity to once again thank our players and our community for their participation in the Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare 2 Multiplayer Beta. We were able to gain some valuable feedback to help with our first round of character balance and tuning. We will continue to listen to our community and watch the game telemetry to continue to fine tune the experience over time.

 

If you have any additional comments, questions or suggestions please don’t hesitate to contact me.

Justin Wiebe, Creative Director – Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare 2 @JA_WIEBE

 

January 2016, Garden Warfare 2 Tuning/Balance Notes

New Features

Added Region Selector to choose which multiplayer server to connect. to

Added some additional quests to the Backyard Battleground.

Improved presentation for Super Boss Waves in Ops modes.

Improvements to stickers in sticker shop for better readability.

Numerous quality fixes.

Tuning Notes

Slightly reduced movement speed for most characters (exception - Super Brainz, Chomper, Sunflower, Scientist)

Corn

Increased corn weapon damage

Citron

Laser will overheat faster

Shield strength decreased

Rose

Damage increased

Reduced stamina cost for Arcane blast when in Arcane Enigma form

Rose Magic Thistles target lock improvements. This allows the player to move the crosshair off of their target for up to 0.5s before they lose the lock.

Rose now does regular damage to Mechs instead of blocked damage.

Super Brainz

Removed ammo for punches and allow for infinite punching

Increased fist beam strength

Reduced cooldown times for all abilities to allow more frequent ability usage

Significantly increased whirlwind damage

Imp

Reduced ammo count for primary weapons

Increased gravity grenade cooldown time

Greatly reduced Impkata range and damage

Reduced Z-Mech Health

Improved biotic pull for Z7-Mech

Captain Deadbeard

Significantly Improved barrel protection

Engineer

Engineer turret now uses Mechanic crosshair instead of Default Engineer crosshair.

Reduced Jackhammer time

Engineer turret improvements for damage and projectile speed

Sunflower

Vampire Sunflower now does Regular, Blocked, and Critical damage instead of just Regular damage.

 

Healer Improvements

Scientists and Sunflowers revive teammates to 100% health (all other characters revive to 50%).

Fixed respawn/revive invulnerability timer.

Additional Changes:

Characters hit with the toxic buff now spread toxic damage to close teammates.

Gooped characters now have a uniform look speed penalty.

Pirate Cannon, Pirate Barrel, Engineer Turret, Whirlwind, and Impkata can now be dispelled by the Spikeweed.

Increased number of Vanquishes required to fill Legendary Meters.

Fixed bug where Burrowed Chompers could move the Balls in Space mini game.

Impkata and Husk Hop are now dispelled by knockback.

Drone cooldowns now continue on death/respawn.

Decreased camera flinch when receiving damage.

Many other bug fixes!

Tuning Details:

Corn:

Increased Primary Weapon Start Damage from 6.5 to 7.5

Citron:

Increased Heat Per Bullet for Citron from 0.1 to 0.11

Decreased Heat Drop Per Second for Citron from 0.52 to 0.5

Increased Heat Per Bullet for Ice Citron from 0.12 to 0.13

Decreased Shield Ability Health from 100 to 75

Rose:

Increased Default Rose damage from 9 to 10.5

Increased Druid Rose damage from 4 to 5

Decreased Subsequent Duration Consumption from 50 to 25 (Allows for maximum of 3 blasts)

Super Brainz:

Tuned punch magazine capacity for all variants from 9 to Infinite

Increased Fist Beam Start Damage from 3.5 to 4.5

Increased Fist Beam End Damage from 2.5 to 3.5

Decreased Fist Beam Damage Fall Off Start Distance from 35m to 30m

Decreased Dive Kick cool down Time from 20s to 15s

Decreased Ability cool down Reload Time for Super Ultra Ball from 24s to 20s

Decreased Whirlwind cool down from 30s to 24s

Increased Whirlwind damage from 5 to 8

Imp:

Decreased default Imp magazine capacity from 45 rounds to 35 rounds

Increased Gravity Grenade Cool down Time from 35s to 40s

Decreased Movement Speed Multiplier from 1 to 0.75 for all Imp variants while zoomed

Decreased Impkata damage range from 25m to 20m

Decreased Impkata Start Damage from 6.5 to 3 and EndDamage from 4.5 to 2

Decreased Damage Fall off Start Distance from 15m to 10m and Damage Fall off End Distance from 20m to 15m

Increased Impkata cooldown from 30s to 35s

Decreased Z-Mech Health from 400 to 350

Decreased Pylon Mech health from 350 to 300

Decreased Ground Velocity from 7.7 m/s to 7.45 m/s

Decreased In-Air Velocity from 8.5 m/s to 7.45 m/s

Decreased In-Air jump Velocity from 8.5 m/s to 7.45 m/s

Increased the Blast Radius on the Z7-Mech Biotic Pull from 2m to 3m.

Captain Deadbeard

Increased Barrel armor damage reduction from 0.75 to 0.25

Engineer

Reduced Jackhammer time from 20s to 15s.

Engineer turret: Increased projectile speed 200m/s to 400m/s, and set rate of fire to 750 rounds/min.

Character speed adjustments

Most character movement speeds have been lowered to make games feel less hectic.

 

Scientist:

Increased Velocity from 7 m/s to 7.45 m/s

Cactus:

Decreased Velocity from 7.0772624 m/s to 6.45 m/s

Peashooter:

Decreased Velocity from 7.0772624 m/s to 6.45 m/s

Sunflower:

Decreased Velocity from 8.174513 m/s to 7.45 m/s

Rose:

Decreased Velocity from 8.174513 m/s to 7.45 m/s

Chomper:

Decreased Velocity from 6.8578124 m/s to 7 m/s

Corn:

Decreased Velocity from 7.0772624 m/s to 6.45 m/s

 

Citron

Decreased Velocity from 6.5835 m/s to 6 m/s Ball: - Decreased Velocity from 9.45 m/s to 9 m/s

Chomper:

Increased default health from 150 to 175

Imp:

Decreased Velocity from 8.36 m/s to 7.7 m/s

Mech:

Decreased Velocity from 7 m/s to 6.45 m/s

Pylon Mech:

Decreased Velocity from 9.5 m/s to 7.45 m/s

Scientist:

Decreased Velocity from 7.68075 m/s to 7 m/s

Deadbeard:

Decreased Velocity from 7.0772624 m/s to 6.45 m/s

 

Goat:

Decreased Velocity from 10 m/s to 9 m/s

 

Engineer:

Decreased Velocity from 6.8578124 m/s to 6.25 m/s

Super Brainz:

Decreased Velocity from 7.68075 m/s to 7 m/s

 

All-Star:

Decreased Velocity from 7.68075 m/s to 7 m/s

Soldier:

Decreased Velocity from 7.0772624 m/s to 6.45 m/s

22 Replies

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago

    I cant wait to see how the the healer improvements play out.

  • IronCatFish47's avatar
    IronCatFish47
    10 years ago

    Seems they still won't adjust a direct Chomper's digestion speed.  It would be nice if it match the Chester Chomper's since he won't make the cut.  Not to mention all the ways zombies can block being swallowed now to begin with. 

  • Doppelgadam's avatar
    Doppelgadam
    10 years ago

    I'm concerned that the Imp might have gotten hit just a little bit too hard with the nerf stick. Yes, he did need some nerfs, but I'm concerned that he's going to be a bit too weak now outside of his mech.

    I feel like some people just complained about him because they didn't want to learn how to deal with this new class which is very unique from other classes. I guess I'll have to wait and see how it plays out.

    Other than that, I think most of the adjustments were quite good.

  • ShavedThronel0's avatar
    ShavedThronel0
    10 years ago
    @xcrimsonlegendx wrote:

    I think they went a little overboard on the Imp too.

    I'm glad that they are nerfing the abilities because nobody knows how to use the primary weapon. This will teach people to aim. This is very similar to people in PVZGW 1 where people always switch to the zombie side and use a football player and only tackle and throw the imp and never shoot with their main weapon.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago

    If they just nerfed the imps abilities that would have been enough the rest seems like over kill

  • xcrimsonlegendx's avatar
    xcrimsonlegendx
    10 years ago

    Yep, the Imp sounds mostly useless now. He was very strong in the beta but he kind of had to be, he was incredibly easy to kill. It feels like a bunch of uninformed players got killed by the legions of imps in the beta and just asked for nerfs instead of trying to figure out how to take them down. Honestly if you know what you're doing they went down super fast, minimal nerfs were needed.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    @xcrimsonlegendx wrote:

    Yep, the Imp sounds mostly useless now. He was very strong in the beta but he kind of had to be, he was incredibly easy to kill. It feels like a bunch of uninformed players got killed by the legions of imps in the beta and just asked for nerfs instead of trying to figure out how to take them down. Honestly if you know what you're doing they went down super fast, minimal nerfs were needed.

    The most played character was imp so of course that's what will kill you most of the time

  • Doppelgadam's avatar
    Doppelgadam
    10 years ago

    Refreshing to hear that others feel the same way I do. Honestly I anticipated a lot of backlash for questioning the Imp's nerfs lol.

    Impkata maybe could have used a slight nerf, but I felt that's what kind of gave the Imp a sort of glass cannon feel. When you take away a glass cannon's best weapon, well, what are you left with?

    They even went as far as to nerf his primary weapon ammo?? Now when I catch someone with the gravity grenade, it sounds like I can empty a full clip on someone and still not kill them, not even the lowest HP characters. Heck, I'm wondering if that'd even do 50 percent damage to a Citron. Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I realize they went too far with Imp nerfs.

    I hate to harp on this one thing, because most of the other adjustments are really good IMO. It just kind of bothers me a bit that they listened to the wrong people on this, just because they were so vocal. Reminds me of a recent situation with Street Fighter V, but I won't get started on that topic, because I could rant for several paragraphs about that topic lol.

  • ShavedThronel0's avatar
    ShavedThronel0
    10 years ago

    why are you all complaining about impkata ability it dosen't take any skill to press 1 button and have 100% accuracy. Impkata has a damage reduction for some reason so its hard to kill the imp when they use impkata. and the gravity stop all abilities being used which dosen't make any sense. The imp already has a strong primary weapon but no one knows how to aim (if you play PVZGW 1 alot you know what I mean) how is reducing the clip of the imp nerfing if you already have too much bullets and have the ability to double jump and move so fast. It is hard to kill the imp when all they do is throw the gravity and just use impkata and go below you because you can't aim that low so it is not easy to kill imps. The imp can easily sneek in and is hard to aim at because of how small he is. 

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