Plants do not suck. The game is fairly balanced and sunflower WRECKS mechs; Learn your characters and don't run b*lls deep into the garden/graveyard without backup; Use your mic and coordinate with your team-- you can not play solo on a multiplayer shooter unless you are a good assassin or sniper.
That's true. In 80 percent of all played games (in turf), I almost completely destroy the zombie team on electro citrus or cactus. And all z-mech is not an obstacle for me. To be honest, the zombie team looks much weaker...
Zaheen1337 wrote:
Couldn't help notice Fire Rose, Electro Brains, most of the Engineers maxed out. Zen Cactus, pre patch no doubt?
I am unsure as to how to do this on apple OS, but you can "view image" on windows and then zoom your browser in or download the image and zoom in that way.
my maxed Characters include: 4 all stars, 2 sunflower, 2 scientist, 1 pea shooters, 1 rose, 2 engineer, 1 cactus, and 1 corn. That is 8 zombies and 7 plants.
And to be honest @Zaheen1337 it is comments like this that make no sense to me:
"Leave him to his joke thread, he's openly admitted to playing zombies, thus proving this thread is nothing but a hindrance and annoyance to anyone trying to enjoy a balanced game."
If this thread was such a joke, then you wouldn't be paying it this much attention. The truth probably is, you are looking for debate, but you choose to make off handed comments regarding my character as a person (referencing me cheating in your other thread) and play skill, something you have done to other people in other topics. If you are looking for healthy argumentation regarding an "unbalanced game" issue, tone it down on the personal attacks and objectively read what you write before you post it.
I do not intend to convey that this game is perfectly balanced, no game is. I am trying to express the need for teamwork to overcome any perceived balances until they are resolved or forgotten. Towards the end of the Roseacolyps, she became less of a threat because many people learned how to counter her and she is now viewed, post patch- by a vast majority- as useless because of this. I believe the same fate awaits any character, plant or zombie.
With that being said, even if or when characters get fixed, nerfed, or patched, this game WILL favor the group and not the solo player.
@Artomos wrote:
"However, the team I usually roll with has been beaten by well coordinated plant teams on several occasions."
Don't contradict yourself.
I run solo 100% of the time and depend on randoms. When randoms are doing trash with plants but all the sudden get double digit kills with zombies, it is a clear sign that the zombies have an edge over plants.
@Artomos, I agree with your second statement in specific scenarios. However, it could also be that people are team switching and are only good with zombie characters. As an example. I refer to this as a "shotgun cowboy": someone who only plays as scientist and is sub par with anything else. And I agree, I didn't take much consideration into the type of projectiles, which could change my explanation.
I do want to point out that my quoted statement above is not a contradiction, it is called a consolation (not in a patronizing way either), referencing that fact that, anecdotally, plants are extremely effective characters when played right and with coordination.
I have mentioned in previous post before, also on other threads, that Electro Brain is broken, and I do believe he is causing a great deal of resentment towards zombies, just as Rose did for plants. I hope to see him fixed soon, as I find it less enjoyable playing as zombies with 4 of him on my team, stealing kills.
I too have defended plants saying they aren't weak but i won't deny that some could use a buff (mainly the chomper) while a lot of the zombie characters could use a slight nerf. It's just annoying to see so many threads saying to buff up all the plants and nerf these zombies when the plant teams aren't as bad as they make it out to be.
The plants are just out gunned, its the burst damage from the zombies that is the issue. Sure the plants have this and that but the raw damage is higher on the zombie's side. Most of the abilities you can just use without having to "root" into the ground. That takes time and you are a target while doing it. I love playing my peashooters and now my bean bomb just gets pushed around like its a soccer ball.
Electro brains is just in a class all by himself with the damage to his target being 5 and everything else 15? Why on earth would this be so, you aim at the potted plant and kill everything else and its still alive.
Dude you come onto the threads I make and insult me directly, claim that all my replies are attacks on players without fundamentally discussing balance. Which is complete trash, I may at times let off a little steam, but that is purely to try and get my point to sink into your head.
You are still singing the same tune about lack of teamwork, how the heck are you suppose to play as a team when the teams are 6v4, 3v9, 2v5. Whenever I see a group of plants I laugh my head off and say in my head 'It's party time' and a few seconds later they're all dead.
Do Plants have mechs with 400 health? Do Zombies have abilities like Imp Punt, and broken classes like Electro Brains that insta kill groups of zombies, Scientist is capable of wiping out a group of enemies...
Everything you're implying is not reasonable or functional in any game played on the PS4, players are generally always stacked on the zombies and I really wish you were bloody on the same platform so you could see for yourself.
Thanks, I gathered I'd probably need to view it on a PC, and kudos to you for levelling up. Regardless of what you have mastered, now look at where it says detailed statistics and show, or look at the K/D ratio, and how many vanquishes and kills, streaks you've had with each of the classes you've played with, and tell me that they match up or are balanced? You can't do that, and if they match equally then you're either lying or you're lying.
I posted my previous comment because I had just seen your hate comments on my thread, truth is James...
You are NOT a primary Plant player, and you DO NOT win every game as Plants. Thus making this whole thread one big troll and lie, and since we proved that you enjoy the zombies side more yesterday with contradictory comments, left me with nothing to say except leave you alone to your little troll thread.
