All fellow players, we must face the truth. The devs on this game have constantly failed us and completely ignore what we say so I suggest we don’t support this stupid game until they start fixing all the major problems that have been listed. Examples include the dead ba mode and the “event” we got last month. I mean, how the hell does anyone screw up a login reward on a game?!. Don’t buy their currency until they finally answer us and give us feedback. Tell me your experiences in the comments and how they can further fix this monstrosity.

@Stringer2048 I understand that the devs have been really bad at a lot of things like balancing and listening to the community, but I don't think boycotting is the right solution, I think the devs will just discontinue BFN like what they did with heroes. I think we should just keep trying to tell the devs what we need. They pinned the post that says that Brainium Basher, so they are listening.

What are the plans for the game for the next few months? I think something that hurts the game is a lack of communication and creating buzz. Unless I missed something, I wasn't aware that superbrainz' legendary was coming out this month until the prize map was released. What is next? This game needs a bigger commitment to PR. EA is a corporate business focused on profits and we are in a social media era. Give us a teaser and someone's going to post about it on here or reddit or other social media and that fuels positive buzz. Doing things like showcasing new features helps with publicity, creating buzz, retaining players and attracting new ones and that helps meet the business goals of EA. That wizard trailer for example was awesome. They really took advantage of the gorgeous graphics of the game to create a cinematic appeal. Given that there has only been 4 legendary upgrades and 1 new character released so far, it appears there is a lot of content to be released in the long run. But we are left in the dark. Showcasing new features and sharing what we can look forward to, and developers discussing them helps the community able to see the bigger picture and this would help the community with feedback too. It's a good feedback loop when developers are able to "show-off" the new content they are releasing and then get feedback which is better than the current situation. We don't know what's coming next so all we can judge upon is the current balancing and the past.

Honestly, I gave up on BfN about a month ago and have played since then.I would have to say that I feel like the decisions made in the design of the game as well as decisions made after the launch of the game ultimately were the cause.I understand that EA, as a publisher, has deliberately tried to squash the idea of anything other than a “live service” style game and that usually means that instead of occasional drops of decent amounts of new content we get a slow drip feed of things and a focus on making players feel like they need to log in everyday to grind towards some goal.That was strike one for me- I don’t want another demand on my limited time by a video game, I want a game which I can play at my own pace. I don’t care about the grind but I do care when a game demands that I grind every day or be penalized.Strike two was the fact that the game has had all challenge or skill-based demands removed from it in order for maximum appeal. No hard mode, no crazy mode, no consequences for getting vanquished in Ops, no customizable private play options and a small selection of maps and areas quickly caused the game to become boring and repetitive for me.Strike three for me was when they broke Turf Takeover by reducing team size, reducing the TTK, and reducing the capture times for stationary objectives all at the same time and then leaving it that way for months turning that mode into a frustrating mess for defenders. During that time the game deliberately trained me to view the mode as frustrating broken and unfun to play and I learned to stop playing what had previously been my favorite game mode. When they finally restored proper team size it was too late for me and I couldn’t bring myself to return to that mode.I think the final strike was the addition of AI to PvP, a move which not only broke matchmaking and resulted in teams being 75% or more bots but also broke some of the daily PvP challenges since the bots don’t count towards completion.There were other things as well to be sure, little things which showed a lack of planning or play testing, but suddenly one day I found that when I loaded up the game and logged in towards the middle of June I realized I absolutely didn’t want to have to do another set of character challenges which I had already done, that I was disgusted by the daily PvP challenges I was given, knowing that I’d struggle to find the actual players which would count in the swarm of bots, and that I was done with the game completely.It really is a shame because I really wanted to like this latest installment but I understand now that this franchise will probably never again give me a game which I’ll find challenging and will be able to enjoy playing.

@Stringer2048 I used to play Paladins, they always screwed up events. They always screwed up everything. A lot of online experiences screw up events. Even Triple A games. Popcap aren't unique in that regard.

While this is not GW3, I want this game (and its developers) to unleash its potential to be as close as it can to a GW3 equivalent game. It's a spinoff of the series but I want it to be just like GW3. Currently the game isn't quite there, is it?

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Screion
6 years ago
Last played: December 11, 2019
That was my final word. And apparently nothing of significance has changed. And i mean they tried something new and i gave it fair try, but many mistakes were made. The best thing i can think of is that Popcap has really improved their communication with the community. But the overall design still missed the mark. And not even a Steam release seems to save it. Where it also sits at mediocre ratings.
I just hope this dies quickly so we can have an actual Garden Warfare 3, that hopefully learned from previous mistakes. So no more out of bounds or shooting through walls. And proper Ops with the full routine.
Iron_Guard8
Legend
6 years ago
@realitysquared and I have a similar experience but seeing as I used to play MMOs, the daily login in this game isn't anywhere near as time consuming as raiding and dailies in those so it bothers me less, but I can 100% see why many GW veterans are playing BfN less or not at all. I do like BfN and love the idea of brand new characters like Space Cadet, Acorn, and so on, but GW2 is still my favorite PvZ shooter right now.
I do get a lot of bots in matches but I also find that I can get full TT lobbies or small amounts of bots but indeed, getting PvP vanquish quests that don't count bots can be frustrating. TT is still my favorite mode but the changes to the point capture mechanisms from GW1 and 2 feel 'off', after how well they worked in the previous games and one of the reasons I preferred GW2 over all other team shooters.
We talk a lot about BfN's potential and it does certainly have it, but it feels like the potential is far above what we have now. Yes, I still play and enjoy BfN, but it just doesn't feel as good to play as GW2, even with some of the improvements (like saving builds and a much better customization UI).
@shurikeninja I still play Paladins and it still has a lot of weird problems, which reminds me of BfN in so many ways. Both games are enjoyable but are hamstrung but a series of self-injuries.
So, they either have to pull a No Man's Sky and turn it around, making BfN the amazing game it certainly could be, or give us GW3 instead.
stukapooka
Legend
6 years ago
@realitysquaredThe game has been downright broken simce launch but all popcap has done is add more microtransactions and bugs, they had to pull a map because they released it buggy and broken just so they could keep the already small player count around, the launch was an absolute cluster truck barely any marketing and the games practically been on sale since day (they literally know the actual price is bull and guess what the xbox store reviews are gone what the actual *bleep*!), and the only ones who actually bought this mess were people who played the first two and with this type of buisness model for bfn and pvz 3 I would rather just have the series fail then keep going as this butchered frankenstiens monster.
realitysquared
6 years ago
@Iron_Guard8 I do have some experience with MMOs, when I left GW2 I spent more than two years grinding daily in a MMO where if you didn’t relentlessly grind daily your character would be left behind in terms of strength and power so I understand the daily login and group raid dynamic.

My main issue is probably the fact that I left that MMO because the grind became another obligation and the fun was replaced by a feeling of the game being another job and when I swapped over to BfN I was not counting on PvZ pushing the same deal at me.

I’m actually currently playing another game which has tons of grind but which also allows you to play at your own pace and set your own goals while offering numerous events and rewards which can quickly and seamlessly become a part of whatever you’re doing in the game.

If BfN had come out a couple of years ago I probably wouldn’t have these issues with its expectations, but right now it’s not the game I’m looking for and if this is the course that the franchise stays on neither will any future games which come out.

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