Plants Suck

Kumaxking, the reason your opinion is wrong is because mathematically it is incorrect. The stock version of Sunflower and Scientist are both 40 DPS, as is Rose, The Engineer is almost half that. An opinion is untrue when you say, "In my opinion, the sky is brown" when it's clearly blue. That's how an opinion can be wrong. The amount of play time has little relevance on facts as a LOT of us here have a TON of play time put in to this game already, so you have 150 hours of game time, does that mean someone like me, who is probably around 350 hours now mean that I automatically know more? 

Towards the end you are talking about how Plants are being decimated, I've seen several other very vocal people say the same, but from my experience, I haven't seen it. I play Zombies, and I tend to win. I play Plants, and I tend to win. I sat back two days ago and made sure I was on Plants side 15 out of 16 games that I played, and I won 14 out of the 15 on the Plants side. Am I pro? I doubt it. Am I decent at playing to my teams strengths and being a team player? I'd like to think I am. I've won as plants, on every map type since the last patch, more often than I've lost as Plants. So again, my experience isn't the same as yours, so it is a bit hard for me to swallow that it is that one sided. 

Guys you do realize that DPS is situational right?

As in 1vs1 a Scientist will never lose in close range. The Sunflower will be dead before she even gets through her clip.

Also you have to take into account that not all Scientist's need close range to be effective, the Paleontologist says hello.

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@EA_Andy wrote:

Hey @Zaheen1337

Is there a particular way you would like to see the plants "buffed" or "fixed" ? Any ability changes you'd like to see?

- Andy -

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Please bring back the cheesy goop to help spray chompers with their DPS.  If you have to rename because it is "promotional" that is fine, but they need a 30 DOT goop.  If you guys make a dairy chomper, you can give us milky goop in theme with zombies being weak to calcium.

I will note that I find it odd that folks are referring to "plants players" and "zombie players."  I've always played both.  Until recently, I just played whatever I was placed on.  Recently, I might deliberately switch if I'm pursuing a plant-specific or zombie-specific challenge but for no other reason.  I don't switch if I have a bad team -- though I confess the experience is less enjoyable when your team is just all over the place and not effective.  I find it mystifying that some folks will only ever play one side. 

anyone arguing that zombies dont need a nerf is full of * 30 DIFFERENT matches of turf wars ive been on no matter if the zombies are defending or attacking every time im playing with plants i got my * kicked EVERY TIME and it was mostly by imps with there freakin mechs if anything needs a nerf its the imp mechs 

now im not saying lower there hp but i am saying lower there defences they take way too many hits to justify only dealing 10 damage at most per shot now imps themselves should probably also go down to about 60-65 hp but at least on ps4 implings are the new rose and frankly im returning this game cause its obvious even if they fix the imps and there * they will just break something else and make the game one sided period

yes even if the team i was on sucked * as soon as they got to the zombies side we were unbeatable its horse * 

They don't entirely suck - it's more of a balance issue currently. Not enough people are playing Citron or Chomper in pubs to deal with the Super Brainz/Imp spam in some games. Corn spam works a bit on defense, but he's a bit too slow moving to be great at offense. 

 I will agree most of the cacti variants feel clunkier than in the first game, but I still do great currently with the Zen and Future Cactus. 

The main problem with playing cacti now is that you're usually getting cornered by imps, all stars, or superheroes at close range. Two of which get 200 hp baseline - the Imp can get into Z Mechs which can have up to double that. (You only had to deal with the all star in GW1) Frankly, it's not super fun to empty your clip into spammed bullet sponges over and over if you're playing offense. (When you should be focusing the 125 hp or less classes)

TLDR Changes I'd like to see:

-Corn variants get a more respectable move speed than the turtle crawl they have now.

-Buff some of the Cacti variants ranged damage and/or increase the damage modifier at closer ranges so skilled cacti can hold their own in a pinch. 

-Increase Citron Beam duration or damage. Buff the shield slightly? Buff the Electro Citron's uncharged shots. (4 damage is NOT okay if you need to spam shots)

-Decrease Super Brainz's health to 175 or less so he's more in line with the chomper. NERF the target arcing on Electro Brainz's beam.

Peeshooter doesnt need a buff... trust me.

If you can use the pea well, it can easily be the best.

I have maxed almost all my peas and none of them were too bad.

( not a fan of the commando pea or law pea... but even they were usable)

In my opinion Ice rose needs a buff most... she might as well be a goat right now :-)

@EA_Andy The only thing I would like to see fixed right-now is Electro Brain's arc damage-- I won't play him because he wrecks groups with activated ability-like damage with absolutely no CD. A 1-2 point damage buff to Electric Citron's single shot would be nice too 😉