Roses and other characters balance:

I generally feel like rose don't need to get her 125 health back,she have a tight hitbox,a good jump and arcane enigma for her survivability already.

Her homing shot are fine too,they aren't as ridiculous as before,but still exist to help you a bit.

If rose need something,it a small boost to her damage as she rather lacking at that.

Outside of that I agree with most of your other proposition,although upgrade are fine right now (bunch of people seem to underrate the potential for health upgrade,while damage upgrade are more or less useful,the rest being fine for for most part) and the fact that they can't really put back promotional variant (And have a substitute in GW2,except for citrus cactus)

I do agree with Rose getting a buff, we don't need 2 support type characters for the Plants when the Zombies have none. This is part of the imbalance issues that need to be addressed.

I don't understand why she can't just return to the way she was in the beta, no one said she was OP back then.

@JarlAdalbert You are right, the best you can look forward to now is a frozen yoghurt promotional character.

I encourage you all to play team vanquish on easy with a team full of Pirates against a team full of Cactus and tell me if you think that's balanced. 

People say you're not suppose to compare classes but when Pirate was suppose to be a clone of Cactus why is light years ahead of Cactus? It's stuff like this that annoys me, the balance is so out for almost every like for like character. 

Some may say Corn might have a slight edge over Soldiers and all the zombie scrubs are crying, and as soon as they get on the plants that's all they play. What about every other character, why can't they balance this out? I wasn't over exaggerating before with my suggestions, it's absolutely ridiculous. Everyone has quit and the remainders are players who are tolerating it and accepting it for what it is.

I don't favour one side to another, but most people do. 

I like to play rose a lot for she is one of the plants I like to main as. Now I haven't mastered all my roses, but from my experience of gameplay with each one I'd say there could be a few tweaks. One option I'd say is because she has little health and a smaller hitbox why not make her a bit  faster and mobile. I know her jump is higher than most plants but it would be cool if she could jump as high as super brainz or just be a bit faster all in all. Another thing was ice rose being absolutly kicked into the dirt with the rose nerf. I think maybe up her damage by a bit or on a charge shot will insta freeze like before since it will add freeze support for your team to take advantage of. I do think ice rose could use some attention because I feel she is probably the worst plant ice varient or just the worst ice varient yet. Comparing her to AC Perry, Perry is probably one of the best ice varients in the game. Also party rose or just the party varients in general it is near impossible to get a party mode as party rose. It would be nice if party mode was activated through damage not kills or the meter is kept even if you die.

@Boolerex Well... I guess you're right. But I still want the Ice Rose buff.

@ChikoWiko No, she's not.

@JarlAdalbert ☹️ You're right. Felipe is sad now.

@KnowsNoLimit Well... Engineer is a support character, but he's a little strong against Chompers while Rose is weak against almost anything now. Also, can u explain to me about the "Frozen Yogurt" quest/shop? Or at least show me a video/ tutorial to how to get that?

@Zaheen1337 ...Ok.

@cmh05171 FINALLY! SOMEONE WHO COMPLETELY KNOWS HOW I FEEL!!! ROSE NEED SOME BUFFS! ICE ROSE NEEDS A LOT OF BUFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! k. I'm sorry. XD. But I am really happy to know someone agrees with me.

yes roses are very weak now. I was lucky to max out my roses before they patched to nerf them bad. Many agree that the roses should return to what they were in beta because now they are over nerfed. As for the zombies being over powered, electro brainz, captain sharkbite, all scientist, all imps and some engineers need real big nerfs. 

@FelipeGames2000

I'm happy we agree on rose, also from a lot of games I have played as her on offense she just gets her tele camped 99% of the time, mostly on Moon. I think that she could have the advantage over engie by having more powerful turrets to guard her tele. That way she can have almost as good of a chance as engie in guarding her tele. 

P.S. I managed to actually get a party mode for party rose in an actual multiplayer match for once =D to bad I died 2 seconds later.