After the latest update I think that maybe giving damage to the sunflower was the wrong way to go. Maybe I'm in the minority but when I play Sunflower I play her so I can fast revive, heal with flower pots, and heal with her heal ability. Sometimes I use her rooted beam to help defend a choke point but rarely do I do this because I usually die pretty quick. I don't need my sunflower to put out the same DPS as a scientist nor do I really want to. I don't think every class has to have a "mirror". Idaly I would love to have seen the sunflower get more survivability, more maneuverability in terms of base movement speed, or even more health. I would also like to see the beam (which is really only practical in OPS) replaced with something like a tall nut, damage boost for allies, or even and instant revive on a long cool down. I know that last idea probably is OP but it's just an idea. I would love to see pop cap move the sunflower to a more healers/reviver role with survivability. My sunflower gets one shot so easily I don't even get to use my new damage buff. I was wondering if anyone else felt the same way or am I alone in this? Maybe playing overwatch and having a 99% support character like Mercy has made me want something similar in GW2.

No I like being able to rek and support my team at the same time.

So you want the sunflower to be a weak healer while the scientist can stay the strong healer? because the sunflower heals/revives just as fine as the scientist so i don't see why you want her to deal less damage again for no reason just to make her only a support character that can barely defend herself. it's the reason people barely play as the sunflower to begin with.

I wish there was a long rang heal ability. Kinda like corns bigger better butter but bursts into a ton of little suns. Would be a huge help for keeping control of an area.

Alots of people here forgot that heal flower also got buffed by having less cooldown too. It gave it only a 5s downtime (heal flower last 30 sec,cooldown is 35 sec) It something that boosted his support options a bit.

I am not trolling you, and I appreciate your in depth argument. Of course I appreciate the pot buff and the buff to her damage. But I want more versatility. All her upgrades are essentially combat upgraded, speed, reload, damage, clip size, etc. The other let's be honest are all kind of useless and this applies to classes beyond the sunflower. My main point is I want to support more with my sunflower and combat less. There are plenty of all combat all the time classes such as citron and especially corn. I think it's great that you have people that see things from your point of view, as you can see on this forum there are people that see things from my point of view. Would it really be so bad if there were more options for people that wanted to engage in a more support style of game play. Furthermore, my pots will get instagibbed unless I set them near a cactus that is sniping. If I take them to a contested zone in suburbination, gnome bomb, turf takeover, etc then my pot gets OBLITERATED right after it's first set of heals drop. compare the health on a pot to the health on a healing station. Also when defending a point sunflowers can get one shot by tackle, imp punt, sticky bomb, gravity bomb + impkata, etc. It makes playing support very difficult. Sure if I want to play back with the cactus I could live and heal all day, that is assuming they need the heal. however supporting objectives is almost impossible as a sunflower.

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Anonymous
10 years ago
No I like being able to rek and support my team at the same time.
superxmario128
10 years ago
So you want the sunflower to be a weak healer while the scientist can stay the strong healer? because the sunflower heals/revives just as fine as the scientist so i don't see why you want her to deal less damage again for no reason just to make her only a support character that can barely defend herself. it's the reason people barely play as the sunflower to begin with.
Anonymous
10 years ago
http://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/Flowers-in-GW2-should-be-tanks-who-deal-low-damage/m-p/5345686
Anonymous
10 years ago
I think some of you missed my point. I'm saying the sunflower doesn't need damage, it needs better support. I doubt anyone "wreks" as the sunflower on offense in term of kills and damage output. I'm just not buying it, currently there are so many ways to one shot a sunflower and if I want to heal I have to be pretty much right next to my teammate because of my heal beams sort range. The scientist is still way better on offense than the sunflower, and with a healing station can be really great if not better than a sunflower at healing.

Personally I would love to see increased movement speed, more HP, remove the damage buff, better healing and a quicker revive and replace the Solar Beam with something better and more support oriented.

Also anyone that "wreks" as a sunflower in KDA/damage and plays on Xbone please add me I would love to see it.
Anonymous
10 years ago
I wish there was a long rang heal ability. Kinda like corns bigger better butter but bursts into a ton of little suns. Would be a huge help for keeping control of an area.
Boolerex
10 years ago
Alots of people here forgot that heal flower also got buffed by having less cooldown too. It gave it only a 5s downtime (heal flower last 30 sec,cooldown is 35 sec)

It something that boosted his support options a bit.
sunmoonstars101
10 years ago
The scientist can at least warp away from danger and defend himself. The sunflower cannot. She needs at least a health boost. I have gotten 22 vanquishes using her but it helped that I had dark flower. I still got killed a lot healing my team. For the other team she is the easiest kill. I would like to see her get a health boost but I don't know if it will happen.
Anonymous
10 years ago
@Boolerex wrote:

Alots of people here forgot that heal flower also got buffed by having less cooldown too. It gave it only a 5s downtime (heal flower last 30 sec,cooldown is 35 sec)

It something that boosted his support options a bit.

Yes that was a very great buff, my problem with the flower pot is that it seems to die pretty quickly from AOE damage. There are certain things they could even do with character upgrades, such as "improved healing", "longer range healing", "flower pot health", etc. I feel like the 3 upgrades was a fantastic idea by popcap but most of them are the same, this was really a missed opportunity on their part. The tree already has options for more damage "reload, damage, clip size" this would let the people who wanted a more agressive sunflower to do so and having support upgrades for those of us who wants to run around and support.
Anonymous
10 years ago
thats an ok idea

could add another flower pot option "armored flower pot"

same as armored heal station

so it could survive all that damage going on in a garden
sunmoonstars101
10 years ago
Yes flower pots that can take more damage would be helpful. It still seems unfair though the zombies healer has it so much easier! They should make the scientist like the sunflower because too many scientists are not healing, just warping around getting kills. Sunflowers health should be bumped up to 120-125. Its hard to heal your team if your constantly getting shot down.

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