First off I would like to say I am loving this game it has been a lot of fun on ps4 but there are some things that drive me and my friends nuts.On ps4 the super brains turbo twister is a over powered.The developers/Gnomes should make it so he takes the normal amount of damage or make it do less damage. ELECTRO BRAINS needs to be nerfed h is ranged attack damage is crazy plus the chain reaction does more damage then the initial hit.ZoologistHe needs to do less damage and have a slower fire rate kinda like the astronaut.Well i hope a developer/Gnome reads this I love this game just needs a few tweaks.

@LlamaWaffle92@XMalakhX Clearly he's a zombie lover and he's defending Zoologist like its part of his daily routine and life now.@AWMaxSterling Zoologist is my favourite class now too, primarily because it's so easy to destroy every Plant with it, only a clever Chomper would ever eat me but I'd hunt him down and make him suffer all game.Sure you can compare Scientist to Chomper, Zoologist does about 100 DPS and Chomper does about 50. Scientist is like Unicorn Chomper, but it can also heal with two abilities.Imahine if every Chomper was Unicorn Chomper, that can throw Spikeweed and make them stick to people for 50 damage, all have the power of Armour Chomper that hits for 50. Instead of 200 health, give it a mega heal bomb that instant heals for 50 and a heal station that can slowly heal the the rest. That practically makes the Scientist invincible, so Chomper should be invincible too.It's pretty much what I'm suggesting they do to Chomper to even the odds for the Plants. Please wait for my massive write up of balance changes and why they're needed.Zoologist can be left alone, because when I'm done suggesting proper balance changes for Plants, it's not going to matter what class or side you pick, everyone will be killing each other in 2 seconds flat before they know what hit them 🙂

Did someone really sayed:Dont get close to a zoologist?Oh wait you must be kidding.A part the fact that Scientist is broken, brainless and actually extremely easy and forgiving to play(maybe you have not knowledge on what is Op :] ) his entire creation of the zoologist is a BAD and WRONG design.First:Plants lack tank/frontline, something zombies are, and whenever i Pick Citron.. and IRON ONE which is the tankiest plant ever i dont get AT ALL why should i get punished from this.Not only has Burst Potential to kill everyone, but also enough DPS to kill tanks c:Scientists in first place shouldnt have that MAP PRESSURE and that ZONING and actually are not being used as intended, while being completely safe.I repeat like i already told in another thread.Two spammabile consecutive instant long warp with no cooldown.Scientists damage in order to be a assassin with Counterplay and being used by skilled players with a good decision making should be like this:- i can join fights with teleports for clearing them low-life people, but can i succeded? my second warp for escape will be in cooldown and i need to get cover in order to have my * safe.Same kit. Same damage but WITH A BRAIN.Actually Scientist gameplay:- Oh there are plants there, teleports behind them, kill them escape, ezpz."And dont tell me is squishy and if you caugh him from afar is dead cause he has enough movespeed to dodge almost every plants slow-speed bullets and a teleports to make him safer.Support/healerAssassinGood fighter in skirmish with heal ball and heal stationThe heal ball is not used cause people just looking for kills, it actually IS THE BEST HEAL by far, you dont even get close to your team-mates and get punished for going out of position but help them from any distance... oh i want to heal my friend with sunflower.. o wait let him die cause there is an electro brainz targeting him c:The zoologist desing is totally wrong, the only plants lack is a tank frontline and not enought counterplay from low distance fights? (keep in mind that a lot of zombies are super safe and forgiving to play, but you can also play aggressive because they have dash/rocket jumps/warps/jackhammer and so on" and the only counter to this situation is a tank citron and you create a strong burster with a lots of DPS that counter the only accessible strategy to deal with zombies?PLS. No.

If you're comparing the worst class in the game, the chomper, to the design mess that is the scientist, you lose all credibility instantly.They are in no way similar. Learn the game and get off the forums.

Once you have experienced the glory of Electro Brainz camping at the spawn point, shooting across the entire ice field into the plants garden, you will wonder what type of 200 HP melee class that it.Counter-sniping was always a important part of Garden Warfare. But now it reached ludicrous levels. The cactus class simply can't deal with 3 other snipers (Pirate, Electro, Camo) all the time.

@ScreenhogRSnail wrote: Zoologist is literally an almost direct upgrade of the chemist, and he has no range really. This is correct. He has absolutely no range. He must be on top of you to do any damage. No nerf necessary.

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26 Replies

Anonymous
10 years ago
Developer/gnome......
What?
JarlAdalbert
10 years ago
@ironmaverick22 wrote:
First off I would like to say I am loving this game it has been a lot of fun on ps4 but there are some things that drive me and my friends nuts.On ps4 the super brains turbo twister is a over powered.The developers/Gnomes should make it so he takes the normal amount of damage or make it do less damage. ELECTRO BRAINS needs to be nerfed h is ranged attack damage is crazy plus the chain reaction does more damage then the initial hit.
Zoologist
He needs to do less damage and have a slower fire rate kinda like the astronaut.
Well i hope a developer/Gnome reads this I love this game just needs a few tweaks.
My only problem with turbo twister is that he keeps spinning even if a chomper has him in its mouth before he chomps down. The Impkata also keeps going. Both should sto p the moment a chomper enters the mode to eat someone.
Also, the Zoologist isnt reall that OP seeing as how its literally a copy of Dr.Chester from last game that was not OP. Just dont let it get close.
ScreenhogRSnail
10 years ago
Zoologist is literally an almost direct upgrade of the chemist, and he has no range really.
Anonymous
10 years ago
Zoologist is faster than every plant except some chomper variants and sunflower.I agree with you with the impkata and the super brains turbo twister
IIINCORRUPTIBLE
10 years ago
Super Brainz doesn't need it, but I don't know much about the Scientist.
AWMaxSterling
10 years ago
@ScreenhogRSnail wrote:

Zoologist is literally an almost direct upgrade of the chemist, and he has no range really.

This is correct. He has absolutely no range. He must be on top of you to do any damage.

No nerf necessary.
Anonymous
10 years ago
Did someone really sayed:

Dont get close to a zoologist?

Oh wait you must be kidding.

A part the fact that Scientist is broken, brainless and actually extremely easy and forgiving to play
(maybe you have not knowledge on what is Op :] ) his entire creation of the zoologist is a BAD and WRONG design.

First:
Plants lack tank/frontline, something zombies are, and whenever i Pick Citron.. and IRON ONE which is the tankiest plant ever i dont get AT ALL why should i get punished from this.

Not only has Burst Potential to kill everyone, but also enough DPS to kill tanks c:

Scientists in first place shouldnt have that MAP PRESSURE and that ZONING and actually are not being used as intended, while being completely safe.

I repeat like i already told in another thread.

Two spammabile consecutive instant long warp with no cooldown.

Scientists damage in order to be a assassin with Counterplay and being used by skilled players with a good decision making should be like this:
- i can join fights with teleports for clearing them low-life people, but can i succeded? my second warp for escape will be in cooldown and i need to get cover in order to have my * safe.

Same kit. Same damage but WITH A BRAIN.

Actually Scientist gameplay:

- Oh there are plants there, teleports behind them, kill them escape, ezpz."

And dont tell me is squishy and if you caugh him from afar is dead cause he has enough movespeed to dodge almost every plants slow-speed bullets and a teleports to make him safer.

Support/healer
Assassin
Good fighter in skirmish with heal ball and heal station
The heal ball is not used cause people just looking for kills, it actually IS THE BEST HEAL by far, you dont even get close to your team-mates and get punished for going out of position but help them from any distance... oh i want to heal my friend with sunflower.. o wait let him die cause there is an electro brainz targeting him c:
The zoologist desing is totally wrong, the only plants lack is a tank frontline and not enought counterplay from low distance fights? (keep in mind that a lot of zombies are super safe and forgiving to play, but you can also play aggressive because they have dash/rocket jumps/warps/jackhammer and so on" and the only counter to this situation is a tank citron and you create a strong burster with a lots of DPS that counter the only accessible strategy to deal with zombies?

PLS. No.
AWMaxSterling
10 years ago
Zoologist is essentially a Chomper with it's biting range... that's how close you gotta get. His shots do nothing outside that range. If you wanna nerf him, then you gotta nerf the Chomper, which is ridiculous.

I don't know the damage numbers for the Chomper because I haven't used him in PvP, but I know in GW1 his bites without swallowing were highly damaging.
Anonymous
10 years ago
Super brainz twister is fine but he shouldn't have 200 health to go with it. 175 health is much more suitable for a character that has literally everything.

Scientist in general are just such a bad design. They're supposed to be healers but at the same time they have some of the highest burst damage in the game. A healer class should be incentivized to heal, that's how you get people to actually play the class as it was meant. Like the sunflower. But with the scientist why would I waste my time sitting back with my heal beam healing a super brainz if I can just teleport behind enemy lines, get 2-3 kills, and teleport out. The class makes no sense.
Anonymous
10 years ago
All the people comparing the zoologist to the chomper is out of their minds. Zoologist can dump his 9 ammo mag in 3 seconds. You wish a chomper could bite half as fast as that. Lol. What a joke the defenders of this are. Especially since he had a Teleport. Not once, but twice. With how the maps are designed that's OP. He does need a nerf. He can dump 270 points of damage in 3 seconds. I actually timed it with a stop watch. I don't really care if hes close range. Nobody else can do that. And he's a "support" class. Yes, that magical class that saw the Rose fall right into the abyss because of it.