Which class do you think, plants and zombies, is the weakest?

@HailBifrostGlowI want to preface with the fact that the majority of the classes in this game start off quite weak, it isnt until you start levelling them up they start to feel better to play. For example I found peashooter to be garbage for the first couple hours but once i levelled him up and got some good upgrades, homing shots helped a lot, he started to feel better. Despite this i do feel like there are a couple classes that despite having levelled up quite a bit still feel weak.For now i would say Rose for the plants is quite weak. She does very little damage at only 8 per thistle, 1 of her abilities, jinx, literally just makes her do 9 damage per thistle instead of 8 🤷🏼♂️ waste of an ability imo. Her goatify can be quite strong if you get zombies on a point or in a choke since it can affect multiple players now, but is fairly easy to avoid otherwise. Her arcane enigma is pretty useless as its just a mobility tool with a speed boost, no damage or anything unlike gw2. All in all she just doesnt seem to have a purpose unlike in Gw2 where she was the teleporter class. She’s like a support character cosplaying as a damage character but failing. If they want her to be a support they need to give her more supporting abilities, if they want her to be a glass cannon kind of character they need to give her more damage. She just feels lost

@spIash_damage Yeah sunflower is quite bad also. I didnt know if it was just me tho so happy to see other people are having issues with her. Scientist just feels so much stronger compared to her when theyre supposed to fill the same role.Scientist just does so much more damage than her with his shotgun, has insane mobility with his teleports, stronger healing beam since he can heal multiple teammates who stand together while sunflower can only attach to one at a time with hers. Dont get me started on his healing grenade, it can literally make a player invincible when he sticks it to them while SF has her terrible sun bursts that do little healing.

@RockScorpion384 wrote:@spIash_damageYeah sunflower is quite bad also. I didnt know if it was just me tho so happy to see other people are having issues with her. Scientist just feels so much stronger compared to her when theyre supposed to fill the same role.Scientist just does so much more damage than her with his shotgun, has insane mobility with his teleports, stronger healing beam since he can heal multiple teammates who stand together while sunflower can only attach to one at a time with hers. Dont get me started on his healing grenade, it can literally make a player invincible when he sticks it to them while SF has her terrible sun bursts that do little healing.You've literally summed up the entirety of Sunflower's issues. If she's the healing class for Plants, she should rival Scientist and his capabilities. As it stands, she usually gets destroyed by him in 1v1 scenarios.Her primary fire should be increased 1.5 - 2.5 hp and her healing... just... yuck. Dumb down Scientist healing or fix hers...

I agree with what most are saying about the plant supports plus Kernal Corn and chomper being to weak. Acorn (NOT OAK) is also extremely weak right now. I suppose I should start this by saying I am far from the master rank on all the plants, but I believe they should still be PLAYABLE in their not upgraded forms. The chomper's burrow can quite literally just be out ran, its very uncomfortable at times where I will be directly under a running opponent, yet I still am unable to chomp them due to lag. He is also extra defenseless after eating for some reason? I don't know, I would have thought the eating animation itself would have been a long enough self induced stun. Problem with the chomper is that he will always be annoying to fight and annoying to play. Not sure how to balance this out. Such a shame, I'd love to actually be able to play him and have fun.I have said multiple times why I think the Sunflower is weak and completely outclassed by the scientist, so I won't bother complaining about it another time here, most people here have summed it up perfectly anyways. Same with the rose, pretty much what I would haves said has been said already in this thread.Kernal Corn is weak for... obvious reasons. Awkward aim and that horrible feeling when some enemy is sprinting away with a SLIVER of hp left that despite how many times you seem to hit them, never goes down. His butter ability is really sweet though, husk hop seems a little weird, like its damage seems to come a second or so AFTER it hits.. like the bullets explode onto the ground... it feels sort of delayed, but pretty sure that's intentional.Not sure if this technically counts as a character, but the garlic drone is pretty weak compared to the parrot. The parrot has such a better airstrike its laughable. Not sure why they just can't have the same airstrike, or I would suggest nerfing deadbeard's air strike. It is really unfair right now, drones also recharge way too fast for a no risk high reward ability in my opinion.Acorn is incredibly weak, 0 damage, very low hp, and has almost nothing going for him except speed. Oak is way too good and renders acorn useless. If they want to keep Oak not on a cooldown I believe they should buff acorn up, and increase Oak's tankiness, but nerf his damage output. This way one form is a tiny dps glass cannon and the other is a relatively low damage tank. This would make it so there are reasons for you to play and switch between each form.

@HailBifrostGlow wrote:Which class do you think, plants and zombies, is the weakest? Sunflower and All Star as base characters/not upgraded.

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HailBifrostGlow
6 years ago
@HailBifrostGlow I haven't bought the game yet, so I was wondering if there are any unnaturally weak characters, like in GW2
RockScorpion384
6 years ago
@HailBifrostGlow
I want to preface with the fact that the majority of the classes in this game start off quite weak, it isnt until you start levelling them up they start to feel better to play. For example I found peashooter to be garbage for the first couple hours but once i levelled him up and got some good upgrades, homing shots helped a lot, he started to feel better. Despite this i do feel like there are a couple classes that despite having levelled up quite a bit still feel weak.
For now i would say Rose for the plants is quite weak. She does very little damage at only 8 per thistle, 1 of her abilities, jinx, literally just makes her do 9 damage per thistle instead of 8 🤷🏼‍♂️ waste of an ability imo. Her goatify can be quite strong if you get zombies on a point or in a choke since it can affect multiple players now, but is fairly easy to avoid otherwise. Her arcane enigma is pretty useless as its just a mobility tool with a speed boost, no damage or anything unlike gw2. All in all she just doesnt seem to have a purpose unlike in Gw2 where she was the teleporter class. She’s like a support character cosplaying as a damage character but failing. If they want her to be a support they need to give her more supporting abilities, if they want her to be a glass cannon kind of character they need to give her more damage. She just feels lost
RockScorpion384
6 years ago
@HailBifrostGlow For the zombies i would probably say imp or foot soldier as the weakest. Foot soldier just feels like he’s shooting a water pistol with his damage output. His abilites are still pretty good tho, zpg is still high skill high reward, toxic cloud offers high damage over time area denial plus also blocks line of sight now, rocket jump still offers good mobility and cool zpg trick shots.

Imp just feels incredibly weak, guns feel useless, his grav grenade isnt as good anymore, impkata is just a worse fung fu. His mech has such a long cooldown and is much easier to destroy. When acorn can be calling in oak instantly everytime having a 2 minute cooldown on zmech just seens overkill
spIash_damage
6 years ago
@HailBifrostGlow wrote:
Which class do you think, plants and zombies, is the weakest?
Sunflower and All Star as base characters/not upgraded.
RockScorpion384
6 years ago
@spIash_damage Yeah sunflower is quite bad also. I didnt know if it was just me tho so happy to see other people are having issues with her. Scientist just feels so much stronger compared to her when theyre supposed to fill the same role.

Scientist just does so much more damage than her with his shotgun, has insane mobility with his teleports, stronger healing beam since he can heal multiple teammates who stand together while sunflower can only attach to one at a time with hers. Dont get me started on his healing grenade, it can literally make a player invincible when he sticks it to them while SF has her terrible sun bursts that do little healing.
spIash_damage
6 years ago
@RockScorpion384 wrote:
@spIash_damageYeah sunflower is quite bad also. I didnt know if it was just me tho so happy to see other people are having issues with her. Scientist just feels so much stronger compared to her when theyre supposed to fill the same role.

Scientist just does so much more damage than her with his shotgun, has insane mobility with his teleports, stronger healing beam since he can heal multiple teammates who stand together while sunflower can only attach to one at a time with hers. Dont get me started on his healing grenade, it can literally make a player invincible when he sticks it to them while SF has her terrible sun bursts that do little healing.
You've literally summed up the entirety of Sunflower's issues. If she's the healing class for Plants, she should rival Scientist and his capabilities. As it stands, she usually gets destroyed by him in 1v1 scenarios.

Her primary fire should be increased 1.5 - 2.5 hp and her healing... just... yuck. Dumb down Scientist healing or fix hers...
RockScorpion384
6 years ago
@spIash_damage👍 im unsure as to whether overheal is a good idea for this game or not. Atm im thinking it needs to go because its making ttk too long. When oaks are running round with 400 health instead of 300 or superbrainz is coming at you with 300 hp because theyve been overhealed it gets a bit ridiculous. Its also one of the reason why it feels like some of the weaker classes are as weak as they are. When foot soldier is having to hit an extra 10 shots to kill someone of course its going to feel bad to play him. So maybe just removing overheal would help alleviate some of the balance issues
Clayton1115
6 years ago
Both kernel korn and the foot soldier are completely useless now.
CRAAAZZYChomper
6 years ago
On the plants side, Kernal Corn and Citron are both weak. Citron does no damage, and his charge is unwieldy. The Kernal has no accuracy, and his Shuck Shot is near impossible to land and does little damage if it does. A small step above them is Rose, and then Sunflower. Chomper is bad only if you treat him like Chomper from GW2.
As for zombies, they have far more mid-power characters, whereas plants are split between horrible and broken.
The weakest zombies are Imp and Space Cadet. Space Cadet's space station is weak without any shields. Imp has extremely low power abilities, his mech is his only redeeming feature. Other weak zombies are All-Star and Electric Slide. Soldier is only weak if you rely on his primary fire; his smoke is critical if you want to do well, as it protects you while you get a handle on the situation.
DScD-VitaminC
6 years ago
Foot Soldier, Imp, and Kernel Corn are all abysmally weak. All-Star is also pretty weak in terms of damage output IMO, but it's not as bad as these poor three.