What/How to balance?~

Out of all the games I've played, any Pea Gatling or Sunflower beam is swiftly taken care of by other members of the Zombie team. Deadbeard and Foot soldier sniping~

Either or would work for me.

Meh :P

Yes no? His beam is what makes him powerful, it feels like the only electric attack that actually does what the description says...weird.

Reduce his armor so an attack that would do 4 does 2 instead of 1 and just don't give him a speed boost while spinning.

Meh, seems too good too me. Also haven't been hitting much with spikeweeds, they tend to stick out like a sore thumbs on most maps...well the 2...3? On Garden and Graveyards anyway.

Well...everyone's weapons is stupidly accurate (IMO). I feel as if the Shotgun what make her better at support. From range, she does horrid damage, far less then any other class like Cactus or Foot soldier. From up close, forget about it, she gets dropped faster then an Imp. With a "Porcupine's Revenge" type of weapon, she can at least hold her own as she heals and revs. (Plus it wouldn't be as broken on her since she can't teleport.)

Like Mercy from Overwatch? Sure, sounds good...maybe too good >_>

Once they fix the balance of the game they can add a damage buff to Sunflowers link :P

I think all of these suggestions are bad... 

1) Lower the damage on Electro Brainz arc damage, and put it on a timed interval matching the capabilities of other electric classes shots. Being a beam it just arcs for too much damage too often.

2)The Imp needs his health dropped to 60, and his primary needs a RoF slowdown. Standard Imp can dump his whole mag in 2.65 seconds. Way too fast.

3) I hate the idea of giving the Sunflower a shotgun. Instead give her a mech, like the one in the poster in-game. It's in L.E.A.F headquarters I believe. They should totally do it... But I think that she is mainly fine if they tune some of the other character for slower kills. Alien Flower needs a legitimate buff though, regardless. She's not good. 

4) Zoologist, Computer Scientist, Marine Biologist need damage nerfs. Too much damage way too quickly with his high end mobility. Zoologist can dump 9 shots in 3.1 seconds. Which is a whole second faster than a chomper can chomp 9 times, and the Chomper is an actual melee class. Those 3 scientist variants need damage nerfs badly, and possibly even a mobility nerf. 

5) Two options here, and it is in regards to the captain and the cactus. Either buff the Cactus' Garlic Drone to drop his Corn Bomb quicker, or reduce the drop time on the Parrots eggsplosion. The Parrot is just simply better than the Garlic Drone in every single way, from how it fires with its primary weapon, to it's health, or the drop time on the bomb. That needs to be balanced, and either way is all good in my book. Although the Cactus' should be better seeing as how the Captain is already so offensive with his Cannon, and barrel, while the cactus just has some wallnuts and potato mines. 

Well it's an open discussion and I was throwing out examples, good or bad :P

3.) Am I the only one who wouldn't mind the Sunflower having a Shotgun? Anyhoo, if she gets a different mech for each variation, I am so for that. I would say Vampire sunflower need a buff, with that health decrease and practically non-existent "life-leech" hits, an Imp can out live her.

4.) Nothing for the Beaker Blaster variant? (Idk the name) I'm might not be all for his mobility getting nerfed, IF, his damage gets nerfed. Then he wouldn't be popping in, taking kills and popping out :P

5.) I wouldn't mind if the Devs showed some love for the Cactus.

Curious though, why not give her a "shotgun" effect like they gave Deadbeard? Her sniping game also feels weaker then Deadbeards...and Foot Soldiers...and Super Brainz....

The only reason why Cactus' sniping game feels weaker is because as the Soldier, Super Brainz, and Captain can all get up onto rooftops for a sniping advantage. Cactus has to remain on the ground which means he is less advantageous than the others. That's the same reason why Super Brainz can be really annoying as a long range "sniper" type in a match. You get several of them up on rooftops in turf wars camping the capture point and it makes it tough. They have the ability to take the damage you dish out and safely move to the opposite side of the roof for complete cover, and recover. And with Electro Brainz it makes it completely impossible to do anything as a group against them because of his ridiculously high arcing damage. 

So I agree that I think Cactus needs a buff to some thing because in this game (GW2) his inability to get up on rooftops as a sniper really leaves him behind, because now there are soooo many classes that can do it. Maybe give him a way to get up there like so many of the others, and he'd seem better. Having a sniper as a ground only target in GW2 where there are a lot more rooftops and characters who can get up on them is a bad concept. Because snipers more so than other types need that height advantage to actually see the field in front of them. On the ground, with all the new cover points GW2 maps offer it's really pretty stupid that he can't get up there.

 But I hope they really buff up all the old variants from gw1, they need it, and tone down the new variants for all classes in gw2, outside of the legendary ones. Because they're supposed to be legendary...You know. 

Mechs should not be allowed to capture

Instead of talking about what's "OP" can we demand a fix for the lag and hit connection issues. This should be our number 1 demand right now

Personnaly,I prefer to have different thread for different stuff to talk about balance, A "main balance thread" have a tendency to be kinda ignored after a while as well as being a bit of a mess.

But anyway;

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@Zenopo wrote:

Imps - Should not be able to capture or defend points while instead a mech. That's just to much HP and damage being brought and cannot be Chomped.

- Gravity grenade cover way to much area, shrink it a tad.

- Make his guns less accurate from long range. (This is a gripe of mine with almost all classes, why can they all shoot and have the accuracy of a sniper?)

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- Interesting suggestion for Z-mech,but so far the only abilities that are prevented from capturing point are the one that make you invincible right now. Adding the Z-mech in that list would be weird. But he can always get out of his Z-mech if needed. Same can be said for turbo twister.

- Don't care if gravity grenade get nerfed

- His gun are actually...Not accurate in long range and also are fairly bad when used that far. It maybe better if you stand still,but you make yourself very vulnerable. In fact,the only imp gun that do work at long range don't care about accuracy in the first place (Drake just need to hit one shot to trigger the fire DOT while pylon have his splash anyway)

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@Zenopo wrote:
Super Brainz - Electro beam feels like the strongest electric attack in the game. Minimize how many people are hit by it or increase the overheat effect depending on how many or being linked.

-Nerf beams range and damage, he's a close-quarter fighter, not an Ace archer AND World Champ Boxer.

-Twister - Since it slows enemies, he shouldn't have a speed boost while using it. Slow him down.

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Agree with all of his. Altrough electro brainz just need his arc damage nerfed instead.

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@Zenopo wrote:
Deadbeard - No armor for barrel, no insta-kill from explosion or no speed-boost while lighting the fuse.

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Aka Making barrel * again. Barrel don't need any change right now expect maybe for the speed buff he got before.

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@Zenopo wrote:

Sunflower - Needs a "shotgun". Kind of hard for her to play a ranged game while she has to be next to team-mates in order to heal or revive them.

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Sunflower don't need a shotgun,expect if it for a variant, his current primary is actually not bad for fighting at close range (or any range for what matter)

Make Primal Sunflower as a variant with shotgun capabilities 🙂