Club wars - Feedback

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@ChuckySpider wrote:
The best I’ve come up with is to avoid attacking players with no activated cards.

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I'm not understanding how that helps or what that solves?  Please tell us more.

I just luanched one attack for 300 pts and went from 12 heath to 2.  Not okay.  As aclub president, have now lost my vp over this feature and on the verge of losing other really  valuable members,   If you had called this Vu Challenge you could have avoided some of this.  Nevertheless, this did not start as a PvP game.  If that is your intent, I and some in my club will go elsewhere.  To other games.  We came to build cities, not destroy them. We joined in a mayors club to help each other out in building cool cities.  You are like Trump at this point.  Let’s divide and conquer and dismantle.  I am not buying in.  Have been through two rounds.  Yes, we easily won both.. so what?  The rewards are inconsequential.  The language and approach is offensive.  If you want white domination players only - you go for it and eat each other.   The politics of this at this time are truly bad.  If. You don’t see that there are lots os other games to play. I don’t know how to be more blunt.  If there is no response soon - and have I missed it it? - I am forced to assume I am correct in your intent.  And yes, you can be sure I will alert the club the and online comunity to lack of response.  This is my 3rd or 4th post.  You can adjust or drown in your own testosterone.

Namaste is currently allowing players to choose to particpate in wars or not while we experiment.  Great debates within the club.  No one is required to participate but will ultimately have to choose for ethical reasons, I think. As club president we go no wars if forced to keep,good and engaged members.  If you are after engaged club check us out

Club Wars is not ready for prime-time. It's just too buggy. It needs to be removed while you figure out how to fix it and whether or not it's worth losing so many players.

The health level is completely wrong. I have now started two wars with less than 12 points, as have nearly all the players in my club. I thought that the health level was the total health of the club because it depleted so quickly, but I polled the other club members and everybody had a different number at exactly the same time. All of them said their numbers didn't make sense. 

I have received awards of war types (don't know what to call them) like the anvil, but it's grayed out even though I have all the war supplies to launch an attack. 

What is the deal with the war types? How do you qualify for them and how do you upgrade them? There's no rhyme or reason to it, and the tutorials say nothing.

The overwhelming response on this thread is negative, but even if you polled the players and determined that 80% favor the game, that doesn't matter because the 20% who are opposed are strongly opposed. Is it worth a new feature to lose 20% of your base? I'm not participating in the current contest and am reconsidering my usage of the game. I've been paying every month for a year to use the game and I just won a Megalopolis tournament, so I'm considering retiring from the game since I have now mastered it. My city is beautiful and it has all the features it needs, and the only thing that keeps me playing every day is the contest of mayors, and now that is a whole lot more difficult with war challenges that are not even possible to execute for the majority of the contest. The contest has gone from a game of skill to a game of luck, depending solely on how many war challenges you get and when they are assigned. Not good.

So how do we report obvious hacker/cheats in the Club Wars?  Since you can't visit the opponent's cities, you can't access the in-game "report" feature.  Our opponent's President launched ~20 attacks (one player, not the whole team!) in under an hour, which is impossible given the 12-fuel max, and currently has 45540 points, with 30k of that coming in that first hour.  

And even though our Club has tried to combat the cheats, their entire side has the lead, but all members are under shields and are not repairing.  So basically, your game mechanics are broken, plus it's been hacked.  Once you get into the lead with all your teammates under shield, never repair and you can't lose (because the opponent can't launch any more attacks).  

Do you not have any hack detection in your scoreboard systems?  If a player is posting points at an impossible rate, you should be flagged automatically and deal with it...

I too think there are war games in abundance out there.. I just wanted a building experience so I don't even join  the clubs.  Maybe there could be a way to convert the tons of gold keys into platinum ones.   with no space to build and gold keys piling up it's looking like a dead end.

Club Wars is a really good addition to the game.  What is the minimum number of War points a member needs to gain for a share in the Club award when winning a War?  I understand it to be 300, but there appears to be no mention in the instruction notes.

^ Club War #1

^ Club War #2

^ Club War #3

It would sure be nice to play an opponent that fights back.

Question: What do the numbers over top of the club's shield mean?

• For our first club war, both clubs were at "0" when matched for battle. Following the war, we had 1529 and opponent had 1471.
• For the second war matchmaking, we were 1529 and opponent was 1500.  It was a poor match as our opponent didn't fight back.
• Third war matchmaking: we were at 1556 and opponent was again at 1500.  You can see this was the worst match yet.  Opponent only took one shot at us all war.

For our upcoming next war (#4), we will be at 1585.  What does this number mean?  Is it used for matchmaking?  If yes, then we expect to be matched against an opponent with higher than 1500.  If they are over 1500, then presumably that means a) the opponent has won at least one previous match and b) in order to win that match the opponent actually had to be active and fire some shots?!  Who knows, maybe they actually repaired some damaged cities during their victory as well?!

Three wars in, and matchmaking is absolutely terrible.  We continue to draw opponents that only have one or two active players.

What happened during beta testing?  Was matchmaking not tested?

Looking forward to some feedback from EA Mai.

Thanks.

the club war idea is fundamentally so anti-simcity, ppl come to play simcity because there was no war, the club war thing is totally against simcity nature.  obviously, as you can see, i don't like it, and my entire clubmates don't enjoy it, we just treat it like group assignments.

ok, back to the war,

1. war items are damn hard to obtain: 

  i keep skipping 10-15 shipments for just 1 item that i need, if it is meant to be random, i don't see why we need to wait for 5 minutes, come on, it is not a PC game, not too many ppl sit there for hours to wait for the endless waiting war items, when finally u see your longing item in the queue, we still have to run for the requirements needed. 

the 5 minutes waiting is unnecessary, as the randomness is hopeless enough already. 

also, 5 simcash to skip the 5 minutes waiting is so overpriced, while Tokyo shipments just charges 20 simcash to speed up 18 hours.

2. ridiculous to allow any club admins could launch war:

  club war is the whole club business, whether u attack or not, u still have a chance to get hit, just 1 senior can launch a war doesn't make sense, since VPs has the power to promote one to seniors.   for many reasons, one club may have many VPs and seniors, the whole club is affected by 1 person's decision, that's unfair. i agree that it can't be just the president could launch war, but i wonder is it possible to have like to take at least 2 or more club admins to agree to launch war? 

3. war chests are hard to get and contents are boring:

  the current war we are in, our opponent club doesn't make attacks at all, they don't repair they don't attack, seems they're running some anti-war campaign, hence, it's not that easy to make points, face the fact, the desired war items is hard to obtain already, even if u have enough to shoot, you have none available targets, bronze chest sucks (i got coins only in last battle, waste of my time and effort), silver chest need 2000pts? isn't it too difficult? in the most active war we had, that's of course the first war when everyone (including the opponent club) was so excited to try.... just 1 person could reach 1 gold chest only,,, the more the war, the less the enthusiasm,,,, with the so not attractive chest rewards

4. disasters :

  the disaster system is a big disaster.  after 3 wars, i am still using the same disaster(s) i obtained before the first war started.  i got new cards but can't unlock, the requirement to unlock new cards is so unclear (unlike your own town, that u can see when and how u can obtain new buildings or items), and i still have no idea when and how there will be any chances to unlock new cards.

  the proportion of items needed/damage/energy consumption are so ironic. 

i have 3 disasters available:

a: 2 items/1 damage/2 energy

b: 2 items/2 damage/2 energy

c: 4 items/2 damage/3 energy

i don't have a reason to use a or c disaster.  Remember!!! all war items are not easy to obtain!!

the club war thing, is just like the new M&M chocolate i saw in the supermarket, they wrapped up different types of M&M with ordinary milk chocolate to make it family size chocolate bar,,,, that is so not M&M, they kill their own feature, now the new M&M melts in hands