Re: Club Wars bubble issue

Agree, we do the same thing, but if the players are not participating, and they are timed out on getting out of the bubble, their team will lose more points, because the opponents will be able to attack again, and they loose the war making items.

this will force presidents to either keep non players or find new members that will participate.

While I completely agree with your postition, I believe the 4 hour window is not realistic. When you take into consideration the different time zones the mayor’s club are in and the fact the majority of folks either work or are in school it’s too short a window. I proposed an18 hour window for cities that launched an attack that were hiding in the bubble would have the city repaired automatically (earning no war items) and be subject to attack. It is only fair that cIties that did not launch an attack and were bubbled can only be attacked if they elect to repair their city during the war game (you already had a free attack). Is this a perfect solution - no, but it’s a lot better than we have today.

I would agree with resetting attacking  city after 18 hours but leaving those who have sent no attack to remained bubbled. Our club reaches from Germany to Indonesia. Many time zones.

Simcitybuildit 

I would be in total agreement if everyone was in the same time zone. Unfortunately, a lot of clubs have folks in multiple time zones and quite often you are matched up with folks half way around the world. Just don’t know how to make that fair.

IMO an easy fix would be to have buildings destroyed auto fix after 8 hours. If a building auto fixes you lose the war item. IMO there needs to be a good amount of time because people have to sleep and work, but 15 hours and your war items and bubble is gone.

I like your thought process but 18 hours provides transit time, meals, family time, baths, repair time etc. (life goes on) and you still get to hit them twice.

Simcitybuildit 

roccodonovan8, 

Respectfully, I have to ask why a war was started when attack would begin as your team was asleep? This is within your control.

That being said, I believe that it is unsportsmanlike for a whole team to intentionally stay bubbled for such a protracted period of time (especially at the end of the war which can be scheduled).

Regards, 

DD

Simcitybuildit 

How about making offering war cards that undome your opponent.  Thats an easy fix, and time zones and start times are irrelevant.  

That’s not the issue at all (players that aren’t available to play - that happens). It’s the deliberate strategy of running out the clock to win when available players are not repairing. Imagine if during a football or baseball game one team just sat on the bench and stopped playing once they got ahead! How long would that be allowed?

The problem is that a win is worth quite a bit and the war items are fairly costly. If you are going to win, you can play it safe and stay bubbled. At that point, you will get the cards you earned and the green money and war dollars ect,, but you also can stop getting war deliveries. When you are doing a COM and war at the same time that can be difficult, best to take advantage of the rules and stay bubbled, concentrate on COM and take the win.

Not how I like to play but I get why teams do it. It is an option so you can't really blame teams for taking advantage, the only way to "fix" it is to change the rules. In hockey you would get delay of game, in boxing you would start losing points... 

Something should be done asap as it keeps happening to my club. Just recently ever second club we are against is a low member club with high score cards hitters and once they get the lead they stay bubbled for the rest of the war and that's usually like last 15 hours or so. 
Someone suggested 18 hours limit and sorry but that's just way too long and makes no sense as they stay bubbled for the last 15-18 hours so it wouldn't solve anything at all. 

8 hours is what I think is fair and no more than that. We have members leaving not just our club but the game because of this. Not really smart move not addressing this issue EA....

I readily admit that I am the one that was a proponent of the 18 hour rule...it was thoroughly discussed and carefully considered. It took into consideration potential time zone differences, the fact most folks either work or go to school, and that folks needed sleep and personal time for hygiene and to spend with loved ones. It made and makes much more sense than the eight hour proposal that takes nothing into consideration, it is biased and one sided and doesn’t do anything for the end of war. But I’m man enough to admit that I hadn’t seen the level folks would go to get a “WIN” not a victory so I reconsidered my position and offered a new proposal...

In the thread  “War teams just staying under the bubble” I stated the following:

 “I have been a proponent of an 18 hour rule since the beginning of the war games but after carefully considering the wisdom of several outstanding players such a Rocodonovan, J6Nicel, German Mayor, Modern Thinker and many others I’ve decided maybe my well considered plan had a giant hole in it...I assumed most folks want to play and have learned that the bubble teams just want to win, regardless what it costs them in war items and chests which I have an editorial comment concerning that I will keep to myself. After careful consideration I offer this new more complex proposal...”

Take a moment and go to this thread a read the proposal and see if it’s more to your liking...it is in the same part of the forum, several threads down.  Let me know what you think, at the end of the day we desire the same results...folks to step up and participate in what they signed up for...

The 8 hour window takes nothing into account??? Huh. I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if they are ignorant.

22bmx,

My response was not directed to you, but obviously you took exception so I would sincerely appreciate you educating me so I won’t be ignorant (would hate for the money spent on my degrees to go to waste)...

Please explain to me the breakdown of the 8 hour proposal, what does it include? Help me understand.

Since you didn’t read my revised proposal I thought I would make it simple to find:

Day 1 - 12 hour bubble (as championed by MT) to repair your city before it is automatically repaired and no war items wii be earned.

- If you have not launched an attack your city will remain bubbled until the mayor makes repairs or until the end of war (not all club members elect to participate in the war game and the club should not be punished more than the initial attacks)
- following the 1st auto repair, the 2nd time the club is bubbled the mayor has an 8 hour window to repair their city and receive the war items or it will be auto repaired and no war items...
- the 3rd time the mayor has 4 hours to repair or the it will be auto repaired and no war items.
- once a club has been auto repaired 3 times they will not be auto repaired again, taking my teammate Mag’s suggestion they will be left open, from the mayor’s perspective they will see no further damage (like when in the protection of the bubble) and can not launch attacks until the repairs are made and war items are earned...but unlike the bubble they can be constantly attacked until the end of the war.

Day 2 - In the last 12 hours if you haven’t been auto repaired you still have an 8 hour window to repair...until the last 2 hours which you get a 15 minute bubble to repair. (only the ones that haven’t been auto repaired 3 times)

So once you educate me on the 8 hour proposal, how about provide feedback on the above proposal and tell me what you would change.

Thanks!

So is anyone on this thread connected to EA or are we just talking to ourselves. There has been nothing done about this issue and it was pointed out months ago. Seems like every other game it happens to us 17 hours of the other team under bubble. This is getting ridiculous! 

PinnacleValley,

   I love the idea. I just think it needs a little simplifying.  Like possibly only offering two eight hour bubble periods and maybe a four hour period before making you attackable for points regardless of the bubble.  

   I understand that not everyone can play all the time. But, I also feel that because not everyone can play all the time, having so many opportunities to stay bubbled will still make it that when People are able to play They can still only get maybe 3 or 4 attacks in per war because there are no targets available. 

   Sandbagging is making people not play. And you don’t need multiple degrees to know that if people aren’t playing this game they’re probably playing something else. I imagine ea doesn’t want that.  

   Back in April I proposed the idea that regardless of the bubble you could still be attacked for points. I thought it was a good idea but I realize now that it was a little too simple. But at the same time this 17 hour, 12 hour, 8hour, day 1, day 2 etc. or whatever is a bit much. But it’s definitely on the right track. 

Thanks Derek, I appreciate your feedback.

The first limit was actually 12 hours as promoted by Modern Thinker, which actually included consideration for everything but the time zone differences...the 8 hour proposal didn’t take into consideration the basic fundamentals of work and sleep. It was more like since I’m at home this would be great (and I agree) but it’s not very practical or fair. I agree my proposal  is too complex so let’s simplify...

Day 1 you get a 12 hour bubble and that’s it (except for the club members that didn’t fire a shot). After 24 hours you get an 8 hour bubble before auto repair takes place. If you were not auto repaired during the 1st 34 hours you will have access to a 15 minute bubble during the last 2 hours.

Do you think this will work?

Hallo World! 🙂

How about:

Players who earn points while attacking a City of the opposite Club — Player A-Club attacks Player B-Club with 1200 dmg — be able to lose this points first before being Bubbled — Player B-Club has to first eliminate the 1200 points on Player A-Club and then be able to attack Player A-Club and make up to 1200 dmg until the Bubble

This would make the War in Sim City Buildit be like a tug of war. The Winner is who has the positive difference at the End.

pro:

1. Staying Bubbled is "not good"
2. Aim and focus on active players 
3. inactive players are no longer on focus and therefor a Problem in the Club
4. Most gameplay settings stay same.

con:

1. Wars would be more costly because everyone has to defend his earned points

Hope this could help!

I’ve decided a Watch Paint Dry app would be less boring than staring at the opponents’ static bubbled cities for 20 plus hours. The longest, most drawn out, boringest  time it takes to lose a battle, or win,  of any game ever in the history of all games ever. And they want me to spend money on that?

Perhaps offer weapons that chip away at the shield.