8 years ago

EA Things that need fixing before BF2 completely fails.

Heroes: One big thing is hero ships and heroes in general. Nothing says this game is just about credits more than having to play ten games before you can manage to get a hero ship because there are a hand full of players each game who dominate and make it nearly impossible for those who aren't as good. What's the point? And what happened to characters progressing in a game based on XP? Nothing says this is about money more than having to get credits, but I digress. Hero ships used to be found on the map. They would pop up randomly. People had fair chances to get them and fly around having just as much fun as others, regardless of ability. If they got shot down, the ship became available again fr someone else to pick up, or the same person, if they found it again. It needs to go back to this. It is currently massively unbalanced. Right now it is a jock's game, and there are way more nerds out there, trust me.

Factions: What on earth is the point of having factions if we HAVE to play both sides? We can't select maps. Any game with multiplayer EVER has had some form of choice on levels. Some even go well beyond that. Sure... pick a faction and face off for the season, but spend half your time playing the other team, because EA is going to force you to play absolutely ALL of the content. A game without choice, becomes less and less fun pretty quickly, if not right away. Some people may WANT to play both. Some want to play one or the other. I guarantee if you had the ability to choose, you'd start seeing people form guilds and things like that, prepping runs on the death star... assuming that comes back. but you get my point. I hope. If EA cares enough to even read this.

Credit Caps: There's not even a way to buy crystals right now, and it's so painfully obvious that the game was based around a pay model. Having a credit Cap on single player stuff is a slap in the face for those who enjoy single player gaming and may play multiplayer occasionally. I do both. But I stop immediately and feel absolutely cheated the instant I see "more credits will be available in 10 hours" I gotta say; there's some pretty colorful language against you guys and gals at EA when I see that and I just stop playing unless there's a milestone that is going to soon give me 1000 credits and when those are all done, what is there? Only multiplayer, because you've designed this game to be all about the credits. FAIL. Epic fail.

Star Fighter Offline: Star Fighter needs to also have an offline mode. As with the previous game there isn't one. Major Oversight. Except for mods, which I use sometimes, because I do what I want and prefer to have the choice. I've been close to demanding my money back for a little while now as this game doesn't compare to the first, except that it has some new content from newer movies and the campaign story was awesome. I'll give you that. But there is no reason why the star fighter stuff couldn't have an offline mode just like the other stuff does. Makes no sense at all. If a modder can do it for battlefront 1, it's more than possible.

legacy Content: It would be nice to see the old maps and space fight content in the new game, assuming that the problems with battlefront 2 are fixed. Otherwise, there isn't really a point because the game is likely to die.

I do sincerely hope you all have a happy holidays, though, and take this all as constructive, assuming anyone cares enough to actually read it. I would like to see this game succeed instead of fail. I mean, otherwise I wasted like 50 bucks and will just go back to playing the first one anyway.

12 Replies

felker_s
8 years ago
Heroes: Strongly disagree, multiplayer should reward skill. That random drop was the worst mechanic in the first game, for one, people could just camp it out. But what's worse is when totally bad players take the hero role, get destroyed in a minute, then the whole team has to wait for another drop for a long time.
Also, in BF2, you have to be pretty damn bad if you can't get enough BP for a hero/hero ship during a whole match. It is highly unlikely that anyone can stay alive for a whole match as a hero, and even if they do, there are two slots, and it even extends to four in the final phase. This was their best decision, and the game actually rewards playing the objective and teamplay (though that's ironic since the squad system is a useless mess). Also, you can always swap in a bounty hunter card if you really feel behind.
Hero ships die like flies, the small ones have some advantage because they are harder to notice, but the Falcon/Slave I "gameplay" is mostly 2 minutes of constant damage taking, 2-3 people always gang up on these big slow ships (also, why is the Falcon, fastest ship in the galaxy, slow as hell?) and destroy them in no time.
Factions: I agree that this TLJ season doesn't make much sense, nor does it have any depth. But cross-era already destroys any immersion anyway, I feel like playing some early beta ever since it launched.
Credit caps: This is a multiplayer game, there is no reason why they should let you unlock multiplayer stuff offline. Never understood this argument.
Legacy: No arguments here, there were some pretty dope maps. Also, more variation is needed, it's good that we have more planets, but only one map per planet is a joke.
Anonymous
8 years ago
Honestly the whole game is a joke. From the garbage light saber heroes to the over powered blaster heroes. Followed by the ignorant vehicles that were introduced to small maps. It's comical that on star killer base I can get 38 kills in the first wave. Just by running people over. Then there is the award people that dont do anything system. Worst star wars game ever.
Ravudha
8 years ago
At first I also thought the hero system was unfair - shouldn't everyone get the same chance to be a hero? Now I think the current system is fine - people should get heroes by contributing to a match (even if they get the hero and are bad people need to start somewhere).

It pushes players to contribute more to matches instead of sitting back and being too passive - the only issue atm with this is the game still lets people fly around killing AI to get points while contributing nothing to the objectives.
LiviaD34D
8 years ago
feller... Reward only the best players? So people who don't play as well don't ever get to be the heroes? Were you one of those guys that beat people up for lunch money in school? Just asking. lol
And You cannot camp a spot out when you're flying. there is no ship that hovers. Sounds like YOU couldn't get the ships before and now others can't, so you like this system more.
It's pretty easy to be shot down a lot and end up with about 1000 bp or less for an entire match. and heroes are like 3000, which is a greed move in my opinion and a waste of credits when they have made the game entirely ABOUT them. So now we have to spend the very thing that helps us advance our characters if we want to use heroes. Sounds pretty stupid on an epic level to me, but there will always be someone who likes a thing. take Trump supporters, for example. Can't account for stupidity.
Cross-era is cool, giving people a way to play with characters and in familiar locations that they normally wouldn't. But they did a terrible job in implementing it, obviously.
Personally I'm not interested at all in working to get the heroes when it's about credits, -because having the whole credits thing makes it painfully obvious that the game was set up to be pay-forever to advance- or anything else in game, or that matter. It ruins the whole thing for me. And I'm sure that I'm not the only one.
Why unlock multiplayer stuff offline? Your argument is invalid. A. because this game HAS offline content AND character advancement. And B. because the whole credit thing is BS anyway. Any other game, characters advance by XP. (experience... you know... the more stuff you do, the more you advance? Not the more you SPEND?) and there is both offline and online material, so it should work both ways. Doing it the way they are, is the obvious pay to win model, which they've supposedly gotten rid of. Yet, here's the limit, slapping you in the face so you'll want to buy crates, only you can't anymore. So, why not just remove the limit?
LiviaD34D
8 years ago
I agree, Kaspen2012. I found a while ago that if I'm tired and not really trying very hard, I can kill a bunch of stuff and die a few times and get less than 100 credits by the end of the round. That CAN actually happen, which is crazy. BUT, just running around, taking an occasional shot at the objective and not doing much of anything useful, except killing AI, and sometimes not even that,and I can get 395 to a couple thousand+ Pretty broken system.
LiviaD34D
8 years ago
Ravudha, I disagree. More than that needs to be done. I don't want to play empire. I admit to just shooting randomly at objectives and crashing into stuff on purpose during rounds when I'm empire, just because. And I honestly could care less about being hero ships anymore, myself. Mainly because I would rather have the credits. I haven't seen much advantage to having them except for saying "Oh cool I'm flying the Millennium Falcon."
With an offline mode to star fighter, people could play whatever ships they wanted to whenever they wanted to. And those who didn't care for multiplayer could have that AND the ability to play the faction they wanted.
Ravudha
8 years ago
Sounds like you want a bunch of offline/single player features to suit your game style.

With the multiplayer mode it's not only the best players who get heroes. It's whoever gets above a threshold of battle points - in long matches 75% of a team can get access to heroes. Even if someone's not good now they can learn and improve and get there, I know because I did. It's just effort over time instead of being able to play heroes straight away. I've seen plenty of players get a hero and die fast, so obviously they just managed to do it - they're not top players but they got heroes.

I agree with not having a cap on offline/single player credits earned, that's just blatantly handicapping players for greed.
felker_s
8 years ago
@LiviaD34D
Next time when you sink so low that you try to personally insult me, at least type my name correctly. But at least we have the whole package here! Comparing bullying to a completely unrelated competitive system (which known competitive system rewards the losing competitors, if I might ask?), making it about me being bad (seriously, how did this make any sense in your mind?), and yes, we have politics, you always gotta mention that!
Anyway, I don't even think you understand what you're saying though, and I'll only mention this one, since it might actually help you clear up some things: ". . . now we have to spend the very thing that helps us advance our characters if we want to use heroes." What? Battle Points have nothing to do with your advancement, not directly, at least. You are not spending your score, you are not spending credits - Battle Points only serve the function of spawning as reinforcements.
LiviaD34D
8 years ago
Ravudha, it's more than just wanting changes to suit my own gameplay. Because THAT changes pretty regularly. And I too have played the hero ships a bunch. That isn't the point. The point is that it is much harder to get them and the game is based on credits, which screams money.
Having an offline version of star fighter, as modders have even created for Battlefront 1 already, just makes sense. Why would there be an offline version of the on foot battle stuff and not the space battles? Certainly not because it was too hard when Modders slammed a quick mod out for the first one.
Plus, not only does having an offline version of everything make a more balanced game, it creates a more lasting game experience. Once this game is forgotten by EA down the line and support disappears, people will still be able to play. Sure there will be mods by then, but even for those who don't know how or don't want to use them. There are plenty of reasons. And I've talked to a lot of people who agree about that content being needed.
LiviaD34D
8 years ago
Was a joke, Feller. Try not to be so sensitive, eh?
And Credits you receive for a match are directly tied to battle points earned, among other things. lol