Disappearing dead bodies ruin the immersion

Product: Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order
Platform:Microsoft XBOX One
Summarize your bug Bodies disappear or get cleaned up too quickly. Can you please make it so that they stay till you leave the area? Or at least 3 or 4 of them do. There are 2 issues with this.... 1) It destroys immersion and makes it seem as though you're just defeating pixels rather than real storm troopers. 2) When discovering new enemy types by BD1 scanning them, I have about 30 seconds before the body i wanted to scan disappears. Why should I have to rush to scan them, I want to clear the enemies, observe the environment and scan enemies when I want to.
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Defeat an enemy then look at the body, it disappears within about 30 seconds.
What happens when the bug occurs? Immersion of me being in the world is broken completely. I'm reminded the enemy was just an NPC in a game.
What do you expect to see? 3-5 bodies should ideally remain at any given time seeing as most fights in an area are with a small group of similar size. The main point is that after a small battle I want to take my time in the area and look around t my leisure. But I don't want to see enemies i just defeated fade away as it's a constant immersion breaker.

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This is a non functional bug. I know it might not seem valid but please take a look at this seriously and see if anything can be done. There are already a couple of other threads I've seen online where others have noticed the same.

In the lead up to the game I watched all go the films and shows to really get immersed in the world. Only to have my immersion broken day 1 when I saw every single body fades away and constantly reminds me it's just a video game.

I was literally thinking this to myself all day today

I think this problem exists on all systems. I'm on PC and I can't scan a body if cleanup happens within 60 seconds and I'm busy fighting other enemies. I don't understand what they did to this game. The scenery and some objects look amazing, then others look like I'm playing an Xbox 360 game graphics with PS2 quality animations. Half the time animations don't even work.

The immersion was ruined for me almost right away on the first planet. The animations, physics, and enemy handling are just horrible. I've watched enemies move without a movement animation, they just float around like someone's playing with Gary's mod. I've had enemies teleport to me to land a hit. Every one of them turns on a dime so even if you dodge past them they flip around instantly and hit you. Even on slow they auto target you no matter where you are. All enemies automatically know where you are even if you're walking up slowly and they have their back to you. It's the worst enemy AI I've seen this generation.

@redorblue 

Thank you for writing it in detail, couldn't have described it better.

The game feels like it was made for 6 year old kids with large enemy groups fading away in a cheap animation in front of your eyes. Though the game is being played mostly by grown ups who are die hard Star Wars fans. Therefore such a ridiculous thing as disappearing bodies should put the internet in rage mode...I wonder why so few people complain about this issue, especially the Star Wars fans. Even my girlfriend laughed about the disappearing enemies and she is not even a HC gamer.

I try to immerse myself into being a Jedi, exploring the galaxy and trying to solve mysteries and follow my important mission, supported by the authentic sound design, licensed music and believable visuals. But after EVERY fight, I get instantly drawn out of the immersion, the bubble of imagination gets destroyed and I am being reminded that I just play a cheap unrealsitic video game which tries to be a wannabe Star Wars experience.

I like to stand there in games, after a hard battle, examining and admiring the enemies who just lost their lives because of me. To show them respect on the one hand, and to look at their maliciously designed outfits or discusting insect bodies or horrific monster appearances. But in this game, they just fade away...like if they were replaceable pixels.

Feels like I am playing on an Arcade from the 80s where the enemies disappeared in a blinking animation. Almost 40 years later and they still disappear?! This is an insult for players of this generation!

I cannot finsih the game like that and will sell it if they don't patch this until the weekend.

EA removed my reply to redorblue?!

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Thank you for writing it in detail, couldn't have described it better.

The game feels like it was made for 6 year old kids with large enemy groups fading away in a cheap animation in front of your eyes. Though the game is being played mostly by grown ups who are die hard Star Wars fans. Therefore such a ridiculous thing as disappearing bodies should put the internet in rage mode...I wonder why so few people complain about this issue, especially the Star Wars fans. Even my girlfriend laughed about the disappearing enemies and she is not even a real gamer.

I try to immerse myself into being a Jedi, exploring the galaxy and trying to solve mysteries and follow my important mission, supported by the authentic sound design, licensed music and believable visuals. But after EVERY fight, I get instantly drawn out of the immersion, the bubble of imagination gets destroyed and I am being reminded that I just play a cheap unrealsitic video game which tries to be a wannabe Star Wars experience.

I like to stand there in games, after a hard battle, examining and admiring the enemies who just lost their lives because of me. To show them respect on the one hand, and to look at their maliciously designed outfits or discusting insect bodies or horrific monster appearances. But in this game, they just fade away...like if they were replaceable pixels.

Feels like I am playing on an Arcade from the 80s where the enemies disappeared in a blinking animation. Almost 40 years later and they still disappear?! This is an insult for players of this generation!

I cannot finish the game like that and will sell it if they don't patch this until the weekend.

The game feels like it was made for 6 year old kids because of the large enemy groups fading away in a cheap animation in front of your eyes. Though the game is being played mostly by grown ups who are die hard Star Wars fans. Therefore such a ridiculous thing as disappearing bodies should put the internet in rage mode...I wonder why so few people complain about this issue, especially the Star Wars fans. Even my girlfriend laughed about the disappearing enemies and she is not even a HC gamer.

I try to immerse myself into being a Jedi, exploring the galaxy and trying to solve mysteries and follow my important mission, supported by the authentic sound design, licensed music and believable visuals. But after EVERY fight, I get instantly drawn out of the immersion, the bubble of imagination gets destroyed and I am being reminded that I just play a cheap unrealsitic video game which tries to be a wannabe Star Wars experience.

I like to stand there in games, after a hard battle, examining and admiring the enemies who just lost their lives because of me. To show them respect on the one hand, and to look at their maliciously designed outfits or discusting insect bodies or horrific monster appearances. But in this game, they just fade away...like if they were replaceable pixels.

Feels like I am playing on an Arcade from the 80s where the enemies disappeared in a blinking animation. Almost 40 years later and they still disappear?! This is an insult for players of this generation!

I cannot finish the game like that and will sell it if they don't patch this until the weekend.

Bodies shouldn't vanish until respawn. It's not that it's ruining the game or anything, but I prefer them to stay as well. 

I also wished the lightsaber would not clip through environment when not attacking with it. It's a few small things that really make the game feel different. 

Yeah, I'm sorry, but the disappearing bodies bother me as well. Especially the way they disappear, like Star Trek TOS beaming without the snowstorm effect. 

I understand there are issues in the game with loading assets - the digital foundry analysis showed that very clearly - and I could imagine that leaving the corpses there would be an additional strain.

That said, all the Souls Games managed to leave corpses, sometimes quite a lot of them, including ragdoll physics. Granted, when you entered an area they sometimes fell out of the sky, but still. 

Fighting enemies and see their bodies vanish right in front of you after a few seconds, it feels and looks bad. If this was due to technical limitations, it should've been incorporated into the story somehow:

(Enemy corpse vanishes in a flash of light)

Kal: What? That... (Looks around), this planet, there is something about it. The force is... in turmoil, reaching out, containing energy ... Nothing ever really dies here. It always comes back...

And then tie that somehow into explaining the whole thing about how meditating respawns enemies. I mean, come on.

Anyways, point is that Jhonen Vasquez, honorable creator of Invader Zim, once dragged a body in Bloodborne around for like 15 minutes. 

Fine, maybe that's not a very good point. But the way it is now, it kills the immersion. And it just plan looks bad. 

I also agree on the wide range of graphics quality (the wall running Padawan training looks like PS2), some animation issues, enemies turning on a dime (Oggdo Bogdo lunge attack when slowed is horrible), the big vines on the first planets actually blocking your path. 

Here's a video showing a lot of the things mentioned:

https://youtu.be/778dCSyP60I

I really enjoy the game, the puzzles, the story (despite one obvious twist so obvious it was painful to watch the set-up). Zeffo is a masterclass in level design with very fun slides (I just wish the ice walls would also respawn on the slides).

But I wish they would've postponed it for another four months or so and really polished it into a consistent and technically functional experience. 

I must admit I am a bit disappointed by this. Respawn usually does better with their products. 

Btw: TITANFALL 3! TITANFALL 3!

@P4NCH0theD0GThanks for your post, it describes my mood very good. The game could be so damn good of this immersion breaker was not there.

Even Uncharted 2 on PS3 in 2010 had permanent bodies....at least until a reload.

I feel lately that most games just cant quite grasp realism anymore. 

The game looks fantastic with the beautiful colours, star wars sceneries, it just looks and feels Star Wars! But yet it's the finer things in games that developers miss. 

You use a light sabre that can cut through anything except your enemies, the light sabre when active can leave residue markings on a wall or the ground when you strike but when its out for show it can disappear through walls and everything. Bodies disappear after seconds of killing them why didnt they take the rule out of Shadow of War? That had a great action feel to it that looked so real bodies and body parts where still I  the ground. As i said, it's the finer things that fans want to see.