10M GP reached!

"Dkfusion;c-2278563" wrote:

"Crayons;c-2277455" wrote:
Every game has a ptp and ptw element. You think other games just have skins?

They don’t sell unique weapons and equipment? In game currency packs for buying equipment others can’t afford? Faster levelling XP point packs that put you ahead of ftp?

I can’t understand your anger at people who fund a game you are playing for free.

What? Literally no game (serious game, WoW, FFXIV, BDO, etc is PTW. Any game that offers XP boosts such as WoWs catch up mechanics (boost to 58 as level cap is raised to 70 for example) is a catch up mechanic. A proper analogy would be if one of these AAA mmos put a specific class or weapons that outclassed everything else in the game behind a ridiculous pay wall (but your BiS gear on raid release for 999.99 or better yet your BiS Pvp gear at the beginning of an arena season! Lol). That doesn’t exist so please don’t infer as all games do this.

"Crayons;c-2277459" wrote:
Most people don’t mind. It’s been a part of the online side of gaming since it’s inception. When I started played WoW a very long time ago, I whaled on a bunch of XP packs. I had 4 usable raid characters in the time most would have 1.

Paying to get a leg up is part of MMO! It always has been.

I’ve played WoW from nov 24th 2004 until just recently 9.1 releasing. I also play TBC classic and other than their level boosts there has literally been no “XP” boosts. All of their level boosts came around the MoP/WoD time, are always pre next exp release for new players to catch up to current friends. So yea…

"Crayons;c-2277463" wrote:
And finally. Last of all, if you invest nothing in this game, do nothing to help it stay alive, why should you be at a level playing field as those who do?

How would you feel if your hard earned went in and someone who didn’t had the exact same stuff? What **** is this?

You realize you are LITERALLY saying your level of wealth makes you better than everyone else. How is that hard “earned” from a gaming standpoint? And this is exactly why real games don’t adopt this.

Your posts are pretty entitled and cringe actually.

Edit: seems the arguments in my,post were used before. Don’t bother ^^

As we’re talking about the impact on competition, seems fair to only talking about the impact on pvp.

Gac, tw and arena.

Gac and tw both use matchmaking, so it doesn’t matter if you bought your gear or farmed it.

Arena is meta. It’s far easier to keep up with the meta with money, but it’s not mandatory.

The main difference is during early days of an account imo; it takes a whole lot of time to catch up in arena with those who did pay to improve their roster waaaay faster. So basically, where money really matters, it’s kinda catch-up mechanism, as it allows you to attain endgame level faster. But once you reach endgame, there is a glass ceiling, and that what allows ftp to compete in arena. They need quite some time to do so, no argument there.

"Drathuk916;c-2278636" wrote:

"th3evo;c-2277370" wrote:
Kyno is right, we are all free-to-pay here.
I think buying an advantage in a game is kinda pathetic but to each their own.

This is your first comment on this thread. It certainly sets the tone.

As for apex legends. Never heard of it nor played it. Question on the cosmetics they do sell. Are they used purely to show ones own personal style or are the cosmetics ever used to help in camouflage or to make it easier for squad mates to identify their team members?

Of course it sets the tone. I don't like this type of monetization that should be obvious.

"evilhighlander;c-2278656" wrote:
I don't think it is buying an advantage at all. I think you are simply compressing time when you spend money.

When you spend $$$, you are moving days/week/months further along. You are just buying stuff that would have taken longer to earn FTP. It would be an advantage if I spent $500 and played the same person tomorrow with my stronger roster. But I wont be playing the same person, I'll be playing someone slightly more advanced.

Spending the money has a net effect of 0 as far as advantage in battle goes, it just changes the tools with which you fight..

Your arena shard stays the same.

"Drathuk916;c-2278660" wrote:


I gathered that after doing some reading. It’s an interesting business model. One I’m not sure could work for swgoh. Even though they chose a business model that doesn’t sell advantages they still deal with complaints on their monetization. Which is odd to me.

I already said that games are built around their monetization and that this type wouldn't work for SWGoH right now..

"th3evo;c-2278676" wrote:

"Drathuk916;c-2278636" wrote:

"th3evo;c-2277370" wrote:
Kyno is right, we are all free-to-pay here.
I think buying an advantage in a game is kinda pathetic but to each their own.

This is your first comment on this thread. It certainly sets the tone.

As for apex legends. Never heard of it nor played it. Question on the cosmetics they do sell. Are they used purely to show ones own personal style or are the cosmetics ever used to help in camouflage or to make it easier for squad mates to identify their team members?

Of course it sets the tone. I don't like this type of monetization that should be obvious.

"evilhighlander;c-2278656" wrote:
I don't think it is buying an advantage at all. I think you are simply compressing time when you spend money.

When you spend $$$, you are moving days/week/months further along. You are just buying stuff that would have taken longer to earn FTP. It would be an advantage if I spent $500 and played the same person tomorrow with my stronger roster. But I wont be playing the same person, I'll be playing someone slightly more advanced.

Spending the money has a net effect of 0 as far as advantage in battle goes, it just changes the tools with which you fight..

Your arena shard stays the same.

"Drathuk916;c-2278660" wrote:


I gathered that after doing some reading. It’s an interesting business model. One I’m not sure could work for swgoh. Even though they chose a business model that doesn’t sell advantages they still deal with complaints on their monetization. Which is odd to me.

I already said that games are built around their monetization and that this type wouldn't work for SWGoH right now..

We’re clearly at an impasse. I get that your discussing issues larger than swgoh but I just respectfully disagree. Mostly because I don’t think eliminating the selling of crystals, character shards, hyperdrive bundle or any advantage would increase a ftpers ability to obtain first in the arena. Nor do I think the gaming industry is headed in downward trend. There are just so many options for your gaming time.

You benefit in ways you don’t realize by those that spend (in game not just cause cg decides to keep the lights on) and I imagine our hurt by the krakens in your shard far less than you think. Changing the progress equation from Time + money + development choices to just time + development choices doesn’t mean guaranteed greater success for those that currently don’t spend in the arena. But I do get I’ll never convince you otherwise whether we are speaking about swgoh or the gaming industry as a whole.

Gloating has no effect on game play.

"TVF;c-2278827" wrote:
Gloating has no effect on game play.

Or does it.


SOAP may have some data on this.

"The worst thing about big spending is either CG getting greedy and taking value from their packs, or players gloating about how much they spend."

Who cares? It affects my game play zero percent.

"Kyno;c-2278846" wrote:

"TVF;c-2278827" wrote:
Gloating has no effect on game play.

Or does it.


SOAP may have some data on this.

If he does, he's certainly the world's first.

"Ravens1113;c-2278907" wrote:

"TVF;c-2278851" wrote:
"The worst thing about big spending is either CG getting greedy and taking value from their packs, or players gloating about how much they spend."

Who cares? It affects my game play zero percent.

Yet there’s no direct correlation of state to to the game itself when they gloat like with this type of thread…interesting….friend

I don't have a clue what this means but it also affects my game play zero percent so I'm moving on. I hope you enjoy your next meal.

Thank you for your many generous donations that keep the game going haha

Joke aside, congratulations

So many poor people in here. Haters gonna hate.