24 million phase 3 nightsisters

Setting up the run will probably be easier, since the damage done to your MT and Initiate/spirit will be higher. However, you will need the zeta on Daka to survive longer after enrage for the same reason.

(Please be aware, that this is coming from a player, who didn't really use NS seriously for phase 3 since the zombie rework).

Right. I have the zetas in place, an obviously things played out well to hit those numbers, but it sounds like still plenty viable to drop something obscene like that in heroic? Phase 4 ns can do comparable damage do you know? Trying to figure which phase makes most sense for them then.

May I ask what NS squad you are using?

I’ve heard tell of 12-18M phase 3 heroic runs, my guild hasn’t had anyone hit phase 3 for over 5.5M in heroic yet (only 8 raids in though), but I think that is mostly due to gear development and mods on the teams (I keep sidelining my Talzin lead zeta, so I have just been running phase 4).

Nothing stopping the mechanics from working in heroic, and I believe the potenetial damage ceiling is higher in phase 3 (plus most guilds will find phase 3 to be the most strenuous part of clearing their first couple heroics, so anything to alleviate that will be welcomed by your guild mates!).

I know there is a skelturix video with a full Nihilus solo in phase 4, but the mod setup in secondary bonuses plus RNG alignment for that is pretty ludicrous...

We are finding that a solid (all g12, or one g11, usually zombie) team with decent mods can very reliably chew through 35-45% of Nihilus and 3-10% of Sion for a total score of 5 to 6 million in phase 4, with approximately even success and damage rates using the ‘old’ high Bonds stack method and the new ‘low’ Bonds/TM train methods.

That’s the team whoever asked above.

And thanks Jeff, I appreciate the response. I have zetas set for either team...but have had significantly more luck with phase 3, 4 has just been giving me timing issues...and even with new mod stuff changing sucks...soooo.

I may just stick with 3, we’re getting closer to trying heroic so I’ll keep an open mind. Thanks for help!

Your zombie will end up minus 2 and that will slow down your damage, for one.

Minus 2? Not sure I follow ghost.

Sorry, Was referring to the two stacks of minus speed, meaning zombie no longer is useful

"GhostTruckin;c-1704609" wrote:
Your zombie will end up minus 2 and that will slow down your damage, for one.

A g11 zombie with health primaries mods could be sturdy enough.

"Waqui;c-1704660" wrote:

"GhostTruckin;c-1704609" wrote:
Your zombie will end up minus 2 and that will slow down your damage, for one.

A g11 zombie with health primaries mods could be sturdy enough.

I would be highly doubtful of that.