So people can debate if the move to Crystals to GAC was good or bad (i personally am ambivalent to this ) , as many people fall on both sides of this , that is not what this about - this about that crystal income is now being determined by a GAC mode that the game does not allow you practice - In 5v5 you can get some practice in Arena and TW, for 3v3 , where do you practice 3v3? so if you are not a great 3v3 player or have time to watch the various content providers , you lose and get relegated to a lower division - That is what happened to me and it is just a suck it up buttercup moment as CG refuses to develop and deploy a sandbox mode to allow you to practice and theory craft. what a fair way to go about determining the release of a critical commodity.

1) Everybody else is in the same position2) 3v3 is not new, it has been around since early GA about 3 years ago.3) There are plenty of player-created GAC resources, not just videos4) New GAC is all churn; I regularly get bounced between Kyber 1 & Kyber 2

@Rath_Tarr like many things in life context matters1-. I can accept this point but many have time to watch a theory crafting video2 -. Here is where context matters . Prior 3v3 did not matter as it did not impact your monthly crystal supply, now it does . I never rallied around 3v3 and did bare minimum. Fault is on me as I did not like the mode. 3 -. Would love a link to some of this for 3v3 if you would be so kind.Thanks

"Decay;c-2360666" wrote:2 -. Here is where context matters . Prior 3v3 did not matter as it did not impact your monthly crystal supply, now it does . I never rallied around 3v3 and did bare minimum. Fault is on me as I did not like the mode. While it did not have crystals before, I would disagree that it did not matter. GA was the original source of 6-dot slicing mats and GAC added its own currency which is useful for buying kyrotech. GAC and GA before it have been significant contributors to my roster development over the last 3 years."Decay;c-2360666" wrote:3 -. Would love a link to some of this for 3v3 if you would be so kind.Thanks swgoh.gg GAC counters data is usually my first point of reference when I'm looking for options - https://swgoh.gg/gac/counters/ - the 3v3 is a bit dated but with the first week of season 27 complete we should have fresh data by tomorrow.If you want to dig deeper then a discord community like The Gambit podcast server is a good place yo find information and assistance -> https://discord.gg/BcXfWVRJ

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Persimius
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
"NicWester;c-2361022" wrote:
"Lumiya;c-2360984" wrote:
"Ghost666;c-2360982" wrote:
"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2360976" wrote:
I think there would be more variety if we had a place to test things. Some people are happy to try new things in GAC, and that's great. But for me, I'm not comfortable throwing caution to the wind in a competitive game mode.

Thats just it...competitive does not mean "risk free"...thats the fun of it (for me)...taking risks and living with the result. Sports in general does not allow "testing" beforehand what the opponent will do...and they are fun due to that :)

In sports you train... a lot. Especially if it is befire something important. You can't do that for GAC and that's the difference.

Okay but by now there have been eight million 3v3 GACs so…

At most we have had 18, but it has definitely been less than that because it wasn't always on a rotation. We also hadn't seen 3v3 in several months since this is the first run in GAC 2.0.
St4rlace
3 years ago
"NicWester;c-2361022" wrote:
"Lumiya;c-2360984" wrote:
"Ghost666;c-2360982" wrote:
"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2360976" wrote:
I think there would be more variety if we had a place to test things. Some people are happy to try new things in GAC, and that's great. But for me, I'm not comfortable throwing caution to the wind in a competitive game mode.

Thats just it...competitive does not mean "risk free"...thats the fun of it (for me)...taking risks and living with the result. Sports in general does not allow "testing" beforehand what the opponent will do...and they are fun due to that :)

In sports you train... a lot. Especially if it is befire something important. You can't do that for GAC and that's the difference.

Okay but by now there have been eight million 3v3 GACs so…

There are always new players some people seem to forget. How are they supposed to get the hang of it? Especially now that they are/can also be matched against more experienced players. And while there might be videos and other sources, a game should provide all the basics you need to be able to play said game without having to do hours and hours of research outside of the game. The game should provide the ability to learn and train itself. More than ever now since crystals are tied to it.

Also, there have not been that many 3vs3's.
GifafiTho
3 years ago
3v3 is the best. MOAR!
littlemac2014
3 years ago
"Lumiya;c-2361063" wrote:
"NicWester;c-2361022" wrote:
"Lumiya;c-2360984" wrote:
"Ghost666;c-2360982" wrote:
"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2360976" wrote:
I think there would be more variety if we had a place to test things. Some people are happy to try new things in GAC, and that's great. But for me, I'm not comfortable throwing caution to the wind in a competitive game mode.

Thats just it...competitive does not mean "risk free"...thats the fun of it (for me)...taking risks and living with the result. Sports in general does not allow "testing" beforehand what the opponent will do...and they are fun due to that :)

In sports you train... a lot. Especially if it is befire something important. You can't do that for GAC and that's the difference.

Okay but by now there have been eight million 3v3 GACs so…

There are always new players some people seem to forget. How are they supposed to get the hang of it? Especially now that they are/can also be matched against more experienced players. And while there might be videos and other sources, a game should provide all the basics you need to be able to play said game without having to do hours and hours of research outside of the game. The game should provide the ability to learn and train itself. More than ever now since crystals are tied to it.

Also, there have not been that many 3vs3's.

You don't have to go outside of the game, all the information you need is in the kits. its just easier to go elsewhere and take advantage of others work theorycrafting and testing over time. Just like with TB, and TW omicrons, and conquest strategies, and GC strategies, and GL counters, and.....
AspeedFallen
3 years ago
I’d be happy if this mode had been eliminated from the game.
When daily crystals were not involved it was kinda okay, never put much effort into 3v3 just like many other players, but now when GAC has become competitive it’s far from okay. We absolutely need a place to practice 3v3 regularly or the mode should not be competitive anymore.
LordDirt
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
I say lets do 2vs2
"Gifafi;c-2361073" wrote:
3v3 is the best. MOAR!

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avsfsapo
3 years ago
"Lumiya;c-2361063" wrote:
The game should provide the ability to learn and train itself. More than ever now since crystals are tied to it.

Well...you can play 5vs5 and extrapolate to 3vs3...think a bit...and test it on the several battles you will have. Also...you can go to swogh.gg and check what your opponents did...right and wrong.
I learned some things on my first round...hopefully will learn more on the next two...
Just out of curiosity...i learned that a solo Malak can kill a good Imp Troopers team...not even sure how...also that Greedo can work as a leader and most importantly...i learned what teams of mine work on defense...and those that are easy to overrun...
CCyrilS
3 years ago
"StarSon;c-2360980" wrote:
"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2360976" wrote:
I think there would be more variety if we had a place to test things. Some people are happy to try new things in GAC, and that's great. But for me, I'm not comfortable throwing caution to the wind in a competitive game mode.

And not just competitive, but the primary source of premium currency.

Premium currency...of a game. It's game currency.
perfidius44
Rising Newcomer
3 years ago
In a mode where you’re supposed to reach a 50/50 winrate eventually (except at the top of the ladder), losing a few rounds because you tried stuff is not a big deal.
Gifford_Alex
3 years ago
"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2360764" wrote:
The inability to practice/test is not a 3v3 problem. It's a problem in the entire game. The addition of Omicrons have made it much worse. But, you know? CG told us *they* don't really want a practice mode. They know what *they* want.

FTFY

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