3vs3 GAC really?

"Disruptor92;c-2356317" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-2356301" wrote:

And here is your second misconception: strong players will adapt and continue to prosper while weaker players will continue to struggle. 3v3 will not magically make good players bad or bad players good.

To be fair, number of GLs does matter more in 3v3 than it does in 5v5, simply because there are way more non-GL counters in 5v5 than there are in 3v3, making having more GLs even more of an advantage than it already is. Under the old system I was usually doing just as good in 3v3 compared to 5v5, if not better, and was always getting Kyber, but under the new system and its matchmaking, I don't think I will do AS well, and not because I'm a bad player, but because fighting off a 2 GL disadvantage (+ overall roster disadvantage) will be a lot harder now due to limited counters. Maybe it won't be as bad once it starts, but my prediction is still that I will drop. But we'll see. You're in kind of a similar boat as me as our rosters and ranks are fairly close to each other. Don't you think it will be a lot harder now to fight off big roster disadvantages now? I'm sure we will both face people that we would have beaten in 5v5, but will end up losing to just because it's 3v3. I'm not talking about liking/disliking 3v3 btw. I'm just stating that there will be bigger disadvantages for people like us two.

Perhaps, though I am more concerned about my opponent's sub-GL character speeds and which omicrons they have than how many more GLs and I don't see that really changing in 3v3.

Having more GLs gives you strategic options but they are still limited to either attacking or defending at most 6 spots.

Having the speed advantage in non-GL squads also gives you strategic options and in Kyber you will use at least 16 of them in 5v5 and even more in 3v3. That's a lot more potential options.

Some GL counters will undoubtedly become more difficult or impossible but others will become possible or easier. The balance will probably tip in the GLs' favor but I don't think it will all go their way.

"Rath_Tarr;c-2356445" wrote:

"Disruptor92;c-2356317" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-2356301" wrote:

And here is your second misconception: strong players will adapt and continue to prosper while weaker players will continue to struggle. 3v3 will not magically make good players bad or bad players good.

To be fair, number of GLs does matter more in 3v3 than it does in 5v5, simply because there are way more non-GL counters in 5v5 than there are in 3v3, making having more GLs even more of an advantage than it already is. Under the old system I was usually doing just as good in 3v3 compared to 5v5, if not better, and was always getting Kyber, but under the new system and its matchmaking, I don't think I will do AS well, and not because I'm a bad player, but because fighting off a 2 GL disadvantage (+ overall roster disadvantage) will be a lot harder now due to limited counters. Maybe it won't be as bad once it starts, but my prediction is still that I will drop. But we'll see. You're in kind of a similar boat as me as our rosters and ranks are fairly close to each other. Don't you think it will be a lot harder now to fight off big roster disadvantages now? I'm sure we will both face people that we would have beaten in 5v5, but will end up losing to just because it's 3v3. I'm not talking about liking/disliking 3v3 btw. I'm just stating that there will be bigger disadvantages for people like us two.

Some GL counters will undoubtedly become more difficult or impossible but others will become possible or easier. The balance will probably tip in the GLs' favor but I don't think it will all go their way.

Yeah that I definitely agree with. I don't think we will get totally destroyed, as there are many other important factors like the ones you mentioned. But I do think the balance will tip in the GLs' favor. But we shall wait and see. I'll be happy if I end up being wrong about this!

"Rath_Tarr;c-2356441" wrote:

"harvestmouse;c-2356372" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-2356301" wrote:

There is your first misconception: there is no finely honing this system, it simply creates endless churn with every player ranking up or down after every match.


Reseeding the rankings for 3v3 would actually devalue the system by erasing all progress and taking us back to the same state as the initial 5v5 season

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Why do you talk in absolutes? I understand it, the god position has already been taken.

Straightforward statements based on observation and deduction. You should try it sometime. You might even be less confused. :)

Even when you clearly contradict yourself?

That's why you should 'give opinions' more. Still, don't want to upset you, we know what happened last time! ;)