All of the GLs are white or a big slug.

No one in this entire franchise is a human from Earth, so their in-world identities are completely irrelevant - Ahsoka being orange, Thrawn being blue, etc is not diversity. Paint is not diversity. There are no black, white, brown, yellow, pink or red humans here, because there are no humans. There are no Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus or any other religious culture. There are no Americans, Japanese or French and their accents are present only for the audience, to suggest species variety.

The only thing that matters from a diversity point of view are the crews' identities, and that solely reflects the Earth society at the time and place of production. Hollywood in the 70's was not culturally or ethnically diverse or feminist. White guys galore. Moving away from that is definitely a good thing (IMO). 

Including a diverse crew is not what has "ruined" the franchise. Having idiots in charge of management, writing and direction has. Having a racist audience that won't accept non-white heroes is probably a major factor as well. The actor is definitely not to blame. I would have loved to see Finn become a Jedi, not because he is black - but because the path from stormtrooper to Jedi would have been cool. But the entire sequel trilogy is just a poor excuse of a rehash, so he became Lando 2.0. Reva, Aniseya and Osha could also have been cool, with better character development. None of these character ideas were bad in my opinion - someone just ruined them. Even Rose, with a lot of rework, could have been...  decent?

We can't have a diverse GL until we have that particular flavor of diversity as a main character in the movies and TV shows. And we can't have that until we have a diverse and accepting society producing and consuming these movies. We are not there. Yet. So DEI is needed, but it needs to be done right - not shoe horned in by some crazy white Karens. 

Gabe9876543210 wrote:

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*sigh*

Lol you win this conversation 

Or....leave that crap out of a fictional game and just play the game. If it isn't for you, delete it and move on to your next complaint.

Cus they have nothing better to do. 

This guy gets it

101linedoc wrote:

Don't even bother with a reply, because you clearly value messaging over good storytelling. You don't care what fans think, because Mickey loves you. Got it. I'm through with ya.

Dude. Chill. You don't know me, so you can pump the brakes on all these assumptions about what I think. And you don't have be rude to everyone who doesn't see things like you do.

I did read what you said, which is why I asked this: "Are you saying that some fans' whining had the power to actually ruin the movies?" OK, you meant it's the whining specifically. I guess I wasn't sure, because that's a take I don't really get: If a movie is good, it's good, right? Whining doesn't change the movie. So how does fans' whining ruin (or do anything to?) a movie? 

I'm not sure who "people like [me]" are. Personally, I'm kind of meh on the shirt. I don't think it was meant to be taken literally like you're saying, but it did seem kinda silly to me anyway. 

101linedoc wrote:

Diversity was absolutely an issue with how those garbage fires turned out

See, this is why I asked the question. I asked, Is it the whining specifically that ruined the movies, or are you really trying to say that diversity ruined them? Then first you told me it's the whining and not the diversity. And now you've just said diversity itself made the movies bad.  You can clarify what you mean, but I had a hunch that the diversity is really the problem for you. 

101linedoc wrote:

Of course, you already said that the movies "just existed," but then you cite the subpar writing for the movies' collective failure. Which road are you taking? Do you even know?

Sorry, my bad for the ambiguous antecedent of "they just existed." I was meaning that the actors just existed as Black, Asian, or female, and that their race or gender had nothing to do with the characters or writing. 

And that's really my point: I agree with you that Rose, Finn, and Rey weren't well-written characters. But the characters' race and gender wasn't an issue in the movies. The writing and storytelling would have bad no matter who they cast. So why get upset about the diversity of the cast? 

Just put the blame on the writing. Putting the blame on the diversity of the cast makes it sound like you just don't like non–white males in your movies.

A star wars world is full of diverse alien species? Jabba as mentioned is a pretty diverse GL. 

Since we're expressing opinions, I do wish we had more diversity on the drop rate when attempting to collect character shard nodes!!  

Gabe9876543210 wrote:

Having a racist audience that won't accept non-white heroes is probably a major factor as well.

WHAT!?! So the entire Star Wars audience is racist and only accepts white heroes? This type of rhetoric is completely unacceptable.

Gabe9876543210 wrote:

So DEI is needed, but it needs to be done right - not shoe horned in by some crazy white Karens. 

So I guess crazy Karens (if that wasn't inappropriate enough) are only white. Please be quiet and stop being such a discriminating bigot. The only thing you care about is creating divisiveness and seeing the bad in people. I feel sorry for you. You are no Luke Skywalker, you do not see the good in people at all, just hate.