Arena Payout Sniping
Fix arena payout sniping, it is not competitive or fun to be locked out of your payout despite being able to hold the position for the majority of the day uncontested.
Forum Discussion
"Revenant;649615" wrote:
I think many of you are missing the point. I can lock people out too, I hold a top 5 spot right now and rarely dip below #2. I have no trouble keeping #1 for my payout with the occasional snipe getting in the way. People are struggling to beat my team (I can tell because I'm unable to attack because I'm engaged and don't lose my spot).
I think the system for Arena ranking is poorly conceived and could be done better and I want to encourage new ideas. It is not competitive or fair. I'm not complaining because I can't get or keep #1, I'm complaining because I don't like it. Even the guy with 91 7* characters who I fight constantly for #1 can't keep it.
Or he can ... ;) good mods made it able to keep #1 without fighting"Maraxus;649666" wrote:
"Revenant;649615" wrote:
I think many of you are missing the point. I can lock people out too, I hold a top 5 spot right now and rarely dip below #2. I have no trouble keeping #1 for my payout with the occasional snipe getting in the way. People are struggling to beat my team (I can tell because I'm unable to attack because I'm engaged and don't lose my spot).
I think the system for Arena ranking is poorly conceived and could be done better and I want to encourage new ideas. It is not competitive or fair. I'm not complaining because I can't get or keep #1, I'm complaining because I don't like it. Even the guy with 91 7* characters who I fight constantly for #1 can't keep it.
Or he can ... ;) good mods made it able to keep #1 without fighting
Maybe he can but he takes pity on the people in the other 23 payouts.
To me a squad that can defend 90 percent of the time against 90 percent of ur shard would be broke. A team that can defend, to me, means it will not be easily beatable by unmaxed random squads. And that against certain teams it might defend 25 to 50 percent. That is plenty enough to convince people to climb around u in the other 23 hrs of the day.
But yeah with the right toons and mods, u can be unbeatable by many on ur shard.
I just want the crystals in my hour to advance my toons. And with a team that doesnt drop to 40 overnight. But I guess it depends on how many active players are on your server. Even that might be asking for too much."Maraxus;649666" wrote:
"Revenant;649615" wrote:
I think many of you are missing the point. I can lock people out too, I hold a top 5 spot right now and rarely dip below #2. I have no trouble keeping #1 for my payout with the occasional snipe getting in the way. People are struggling to beat my team (I can tell because I'm unable to attack because I'm engaged and don't lose my spot).
I think the system for Arena ranking is poorly conceived and could be done better and I want to encourage new ideas. It is not competitive or fair. I'm not complaining because I can't get or keep #1, I'm complaining because I don't like it. Even the guy with 91 7* characters who I fight constantly for #1 can't keep it.
Or he can ... ;) good mods made it able to keep #1 without fighting
He's running maxed out Wedge (L), Biggs, Emperor Palpatine, Lando, ST Han (223 speed) at the moment. Unless his Emperor stuns my whole team, I beat him every time.
He switches to all the best teams and mods constantly and I am able to beat him, so no, I don't think anything really works on defense. I don't have to refresh to keep #1 and there are times that I don't even attack at payout time because I cannot and I still take #1.
I'm not sure why you guys are defending the current arena system. I'm all for gaining 400-500 crystals a day, but I would rather have a more competitive system in place."MosDefJeff;649657" wrote:
No OP. Fix your team or the way you play.
Yes to spectators and betting. My goodness at EST payout I wish you could do a Win/Place/Show for finishing top 3. I'd bet crystals on placement.
My goodness would that be fun.
Your comment leads me to believe that you didn't actually read my posts. My team isn't the problem.- Sniping is part and parcel of the game. And really, if we went to more payouts spread out throughout the day or time at certain ranks, it will actually hurt everyone since they'll be less crystals to go around. The way it works now, most of the top 25 in a given server can get top 3 at payout, meaning that everyone's getting 400+ crystals instead of 200 per day.
"dtmike1;649536" wrote:
Highest rank of the day would solve this. If I get bumped to 60 but have the team/skill to make it back to #1 with a refresh or two then I'm still buying crystals, most likely more. Then the annoyance of the sniping games would go away. Until they change it is what it is. Your 23 hours "uncontested" is just part of the lay and wait game.
While I do like the highest rank of the day idea, the part I don't like is payout of crystals would probably drop. Right now there is only 24 payouts at each position a day. With the high school rank in a day that IMO would change drastically when there is possibly hundreds of #1 payouts daily"TheKevinlyFather;649541" wrote:
Would a solution potentially be to have hourly payouts. Maybe you only get it in your inbox once a day, but there's a counter that awards you payouts every hour. For every hour you are #1 at the start of the hour, you get 21 crystals. If you are #2, you get 19. Etc, etc, etc.
That would create several snipe points throughout the day, and would eliminate the cost effectiveness of refreshing arena at payout time (which encourages sniping). So, maybe you get sniped a bit throughout the day. But, your overall performance is what's awarded.
So instead of dealing with 1 snipe point you want everyone at the top trying snipe every hour. Seems tof add more sniping not getting rid of it."Revenant;649680" wrote:
"Maraxus;649666" wrote:
"Revenant;649615" wrote:
I think many of you are missing the point. I can lock people out too, I hold a top 5 spot right now and rarely dip below #2. I have no trouble keeping #1 for my payout with the occasional snipe getting in the way. People are struggling to beat my team (I can tell because I'm unable to attack because I'm engaged and don't lose my spot).
I think the system for Arena ranking is poorly conceived and could be done better and I want to encourage new ideas. It is not competitive or fair. I'm not complaining because I can't get or keep #1, I'm complaining because I don't like it. Even the guy with 91 7* characters who I fight constantly for #1 can't keep it.
Or he can ... ;) good mods made it able to keep #1 without fighting
He's running maxed out Wedge (L), Biggs, Emperor Palpatine, Lando, ST Han (223 speed) at the moment. Unless his Emperor stuns my whole team, I beat him every time.
He switches to all the best teams and mods constantly and I am able to beat him, so no, I don't think anything really works on defense. I don't have to refresh to keep #1 and there are times that I don't even attack at payout time because I cannot and I still take #1.
I'm not sure why you guys are defending the current arena system. I'm all for gaining 400-500 crystals a day, but I would rather have a more competitive system in place.
He just needs to switch to take out Biggs and put in a 230+ speed Poe and then you will lose more often. That team will beat me in 20 seconds if my STH and Palp can't avoid poe's TM and then Palps's stun.- Fortunately for me I have never been sniped. Someone did try once, but I managed to snipe him back right after. I typically make sure I'm at least 2 fights removed near the end of timer so.
"Zooey;649690" wrote:
Sniping is part and parcel of the game. And really, if we went to more payouts spread out throughout the day or time at certain ranks, it will actually hurt everyone since they'll be less crystals to go around. The way it works now, most of the top 25 in a given server can get top 3 at payout, meaning that everyone's getting 400+ crystals instead of 200 per day.
I understand that. I am more concerned with the competitive and fun factor of arena than I am with crystals. Just because it's part of the game doesn't mean it cannot be improved.
What if payout was set up in a pre-payout phase where you could see the person attacking you and had an opportunity to take the spot back despite timer running out.
I'd like to hear people's ideas not the "it's the game, deal with it, or get better". Interestingly enough the devs do read the forums and occasionally will listen to us.
