Arena Payout Sniping

"RAYRAY;649700" wrote:

"Revenant;649680" wrote:

"Maraxus;649666" wrote:

"Revenant;649615" wrote:
I think many of you are missing the point. I can lock people out too, I hold a top 5 spot right now and rarely dip below #2. I have no trouble keeping #1 for my payout with the occasional snipe getting in the way. People are struggling to beat my team (I can tell because I'm unable to attack because I'm engaged and don't lose my spot).

I think the system for Arena ranking is poorly conceived and could be done better and I want to encourage new ideas. It is not competitive or fair. I'm not complaining because I can't get or keep #1, I'm complaining because I don't like it. Even the guy with 91 7* characters who I fight constantly for #1 can't keep it.

Or he can ... ;) good mods made it able to keep #1 without fighting

He's running maxed out Wedge (L), Biggs, Emperor Palpatine, Lando, ST Han (223 speed) at the moment. Unless his Emperor stuns my whole team, I beat him every time.

He switches to all the best teams and mods constantly and I am able to beat him, so no, I don't think anything really works on defense. I don't have to refresh to keep #1 and there are times that I don't even attack at payout time because I cannot and I still take #1.

I'm not sure why you guys are defending the current arena system. I'm all for gaining 400-500 crystals a day, but I would rather have a more competitive system in place.

He just needs to switch to take out Biggs and put in a 230+ speed Poe and then you will lose more often. That team will beat me in 20 seconds if my STH and Palp can't avoid poe's TM and then Palps's stun.

He was running 235 speed Poe and Han ended up being the more difficult of the two.

The only way I see to get rid of sniping is to completely change the way arena payout is done, which I think would drastically reduce payout. As this is the main source of crystals for many I am personally against that.

I don't see them increasing the number of 1st place payouts they do in a day without reducing the payout amount.

Live pvp IMO will not work with the current payout structure because, what happens if the person is not around at the exactl moment you try to fight them?

so with the current payout structure I don't see a way to get rid of sniping.

"Kirk;649708" wrote:
Fortunately for me I have never been sniped. Someone did try once, but I managed to snipe him back right after. I typically make sure I'm at least 2 fights removed near the end of timer so.

Sniping's rampant in the top 5 where the rewards per rank change so much.


@Revenant

Sure I would love to improve the game, but most of the ideas here have some drawbacks. I personally care greatly about the 500 crystals per day, and I'd imagine most people (especially F2P) who can hit #1 do as well. I would actually go for most time spent at a rank at the hour of your payout, which would keep about the same amount of people getting each rank reward each day while minimizing the effects of sniping.

"Revenant;649716" wrote:

"RAYRAY;649700" wrote:

"Revenant;649680" wrote:

"Maraxus;649666" wrote:

"Revenant;649615" wrote:
I think many of you are missing the point. I can lock people out too, I hold a top 5 spot right now and rarely dip below #2. I have no trouble keeping #1 for my payout with the occasional snipe getting in the way. People are struggling to beat my team (I can tell because I'm unable to attack because I'm engaged and don't lose my spot).

I think the system for Arena ranking is poorly conceived and could be done better and I want to encourage new ideas. It is not competitive or fair. I'm not complaining because I can't get or keep #1, I'm complaining because I don't like it. Even the guy with 91 7* characters who I fight constantly for #1 can't keep it.

Or he can ... ;) good mods made it able to keep #1 without fighting

He's running maxed out Wedge (L), Biggs, Emperor Palpatine, Lando, ST Han (223 speed) at the moment. Unless his Emperor stuns my whole team, I beat him every time.

He switches to all the best teams and mods constantly and I am able to beat him, so no, I don't think anything really works on defense. I don't have to refresh to keep #1 and there are times that I don't even attack at payout time because I cannot and I still take #1.

I'm not sure why you guys are defending the current arena system. I'm all for gaining 400-500 crystals a day, but I would rather have a more competitive system in place.

He just needs to switch to take out Biggs and put in a 230+ speed Poe and then you will lose more often. That team will beat me in 20 seconds if my STH and Palp can't avoid poe's TM and then Palps's stun.

He was running 235 speed Poe and Han ended up being the more difficult of the two.

He isn't doing it right. The only team that is truly tough to beat on defense is Fast Poe, Slightly less fast STH, Lando, EP, and Wedge lead. DPS all crit damage and speed, Tanks all speed and EP Potency+speed.

Not all players performance in constant though, so it's hard to attribute it all to mods, team comp, gear or anything really. Like some days, no one in my server is pushing hard. Some days, the top 6 positions are in lockdown for like the last half hour. Depends on SO many things.

"ShaolinPunk;649741" wrote:
Not all players performance in constant though, so it's hard to attribute it all to mods, team comp, gear or anything really. Like some days, no one in my server is pushing hard. Some days, the top 6 positions are in lockdown for like the last half hour. Depends on SO many things.

Darn Real life getting in the way.

"scuba;649721" wrote:
The only way I see to get rid of sniping is to completely change the way arena payout is done, which I think would drastically reduce payout. As this is the main source of crystals for many I am personally against that.

I don't see them increasing the number of 1st place payouts they do in a day without reducing the payout amount.

Live pvp IMO will not work with the current payout structure because, what happens if the person is not around at the exactl moment you try to fight them?

so with the current payout structure I don't see a way to get rid of sniping.

The only way they could probably do live PVP is to have a separate area in the Cantina where you go into it and make yourself available for a match and then the system matches you based on rank. Kind of like how matchmaking was done in WoW. Not sure if it's possible in this game or not. The PVP should be a different format though, 2v2 or 3v3, shorter matches.

"Darth_Jay77;649751" wrote:

"scuba;649721" wrote:
The only way I see to get rid of sniping is to completely change the way arena payout is done, which I think would drastically reduce payout. As this is the main source of crystals for many I am personally against that.

I don't see them increasing the number of 1st place payouts they do in a day without reducing the payout amount.

Live pvp IMO will not work with the current payout structure because, what happens if the person is not around at the exactl moment you try to fight them?

so with the current payout structure I don't see a way to get rid of sniping.

The only way they could probably do live PVP is to have a separate area in the Cantina where you go into it and make yourself available for a match and then the system matches you based on rank. Kind of like how matchmaking was done in WoW. Not sure if it's possible in this game or not. The PVP should be a different format though, 2v2 or 3v3, shorter matches.

I agree it would need to be completely separate.

I don't have to refresh to keep #1 and there are times that I don't even attack at payout time because I cannot and I still take #1.

Wut? Sounds like u are killing it. I think the guys in the other payouts are the ones to complain. If ur still in 1 spot 23hrs and 55 minutes later... u got what they call 1st world problems.

Revenant. I have tried to figure out your payout time before but that's impossible because anytime anyone attacks you then you attack right back. Perhaps that is the main reason that you think you are sitting in first uncontested.

Doh. This sounds like it might closer to reality.

If I had ur team, I would be waiting until my HR, only, to do arena battles. If I wanted to test out other builds, I would take care to not climb in off hr. At least stay out of 1 and 2 spot. Cuz karma is a bitch.

Sounds like you want to take on your entire server. And with the posts you are making, you are going to get your wish.

***hands Revenant a crown***
Here ya go. Ur the best player on your shard.

***hands Revenant a bottle of lube***
This is for the day there is a rebalancing and you can't defend anymore. Cuz you are going to get raped, repeatedly.

I didn't bother reading everything above. It's simple, at 11 minutes before payout, enter a fight, let it go five minutes, use a 50 crystal refresh to remove the cooldown, enter another fight ASAP to lock in.

If #'s 2, 3, and 4 are engaged, you're just out of luck.

Maybe fight 12 minutes prio4, and 7 minutes prior, maybe you catch someone on cooldown