Arena Payout Sniping

"RAYRAY;649736" wrote:

"Revenant;649716" wrote:

"RAYRAY;649700" wrote:

"Revenant;649680" wrote:

"Maraxus;649666" wrote:

"Revenant;649615" wrote:
I think many of you are missing the point. I can lock people out too, I hold a top 5 spot right now and rarely dip below #2. I have no trouble keeping #1 for my payout with the occasional snipe getting in the way. People are struggling to beat my team (I can tell because I'm unable to attack because I'm engaged and don't lose my spot).

I think the system for Arena ranking is poorly conceived and could be done better and I want to encourage new ideas. It is not competitive or fair. I'm not complaining because I can't get or keep #1, I'm complaining because I don't like it. Even the guy with 91 7* characters who I fight constantly for #1 can't keep it.

Or he can ... ;) good mods made it able to keep #1 without fighting

He's running maxed out Wedge (L), Biggs, Emperor Palpatine, Lando, ST Han (223 speed) at the moment. Unless his Emperor stuns my whole team, I beat him every time.

He switches to all the best teams and mods constantly and I am able to beat him, so no, I don't think anything really works on defense. I don't have to refresh to keep #1 and there are times that I don't even attack at payout time because I cannot and I still take #1.

I'm not sure why you guys are defending the current arena system. I'm all for gaining 400-500 crystals a day, but I would rather have a more competitive system in place.

He just needs to switch to take out Biggs and put in a 230+ speed Poe and then you will lose more often. That team will beat me in 20 seconds if my STH and Palp can't avoid poe's TM and then Palps's stun.

He was running 235 speed Poe and Han ended up being the more difficult of the two.

He isn't doing it right. The only team that is truly tough to beat on defense is Fast Poe, Slightly less fast STH, Lando, EP, and Wedge lead. DPS all crit damage and speed, Tanks all speed and EP Potency+speed.

Okay, I'm not here to argue the effectiveness of teams and not sure what makes you the authority on it. I used a guy with 91 7* characters as an example to say no one is unbeatable on defense, so the team composition is really irrelevant to the topic because we're discussing the payout structure.

"TommySitt;649768" wrote:
I didn't bother reading everything above. It's simple, at 11 minutes before payout, enter a fight, let it go five minutes, use a 50 crystal refresh to remove the cooldown, enter another fight ASAP to lock in.

If #'s 2, 3, and 4 are engaged, you're just out of luck.

Maybe fight 12 minutes prio4, and 7 minutes prior, maybe you catch someone on cooldown

Lol I did bother reading your post and it's completely useless because no one's actually talking about how to snipe.

"Zooey;649778" wrote:

"TommySitt;649768" wrote:
I didn't bother reading everything above. It's simple, at 11 minutes before payout, enter a fight, let it go five minutes, use a 50 crystal refresh to remove the cooldown, enter another fight ASAP to lock in.

If #'s 2, 3, and 4 are engaged, you're just out of luck.

Maybe fight 12 minutes prio4, and 7 minutes prior, maybe you catch someone on cooldown

Lol I did bother reading your post and it's completely useless because no one's actually talking about how to snipe.

I know, it's pointless to post this because everyone thinks the post is "omg I can't hold #1 because I'm not invincible like the other guys how do I snipe #1 guys plz help!"

"Revenant;649680" wrote:

"Maraxus;649666" wrote:

"Revenant;649615" wrote:
I think many of you are missing the point. I can lock people out too, I hold a top 5 spot right now and rarely dip below #2. I have no trouble keeping #1 for my payout with the occasional snipe getting in the way. People are struggling to beat my team (I can tell because I'm unable to attack because I'm engaged and don't lose my spot).

I think the system for Arena ranking is poorly conceived and could be done better and I want to encourage new ideas. It is not competitive or fair. I'm not complaining because I can't get or keep #1, I'm complaining because I don't like it. Even the guy with 91 7* characters who I fight constantly for #1 can't keep it.

Or he can ... ;) good mods made it able to keep #1 without fighting

He's running maxed out Wedge (L), Biggs, Emperor Palpatine, Lando, ST Han (223 speed) at the moment. Unless his Emperor stuns my whole team, I beat him every time.

He switches to all the best teams and mods constantly and I am able to beat him, so no, I don't think anything really works on defense. I don't have to refresh to keep #1 and there are times that I don't even attack at payout time because I cannot and I still take #1.

I'm not sure why you guys are defending the current arena system. I'm all for gaining 400-500 crystals a day, but I would rather have a more competitive system in place.

I do think it's stupid too, but I also think payout for first is so close to payout for rest of top 10 that in material ways it doesn't really matter, only in bragging rights...

So if it's for bragging rights, need to work on a team that actually can defend (that should be the goal ultimately...)

If it's for the payouts, it's not really an issue...

I actually understand where you are coming from and I agree with you Revenant. The arena system is stupid. I actually have a guildmate who is being locked out of his top 10 all day because what sounds like a bunch of 12 year olds with their dads credit cards are ruling his top 10 and immediately attacking anyone that enters. A group of people should not be able to lock out the top 10 of a shard all day long.

Arena does need an overhaul but as I said I don't think we will see it anytime soon.

"Revenant;64790" wrote:
Fix arena payout sniping, it is not competitive or fun to be locked out of your payout despite being able to hold the position for the majority of the day uncontested.

Get a better plan and don't let someone snipe you.

"MrClean621;649962" wrote:
I actually understand where you are coming from and I agree with you Revenant. The arena system is ****. I actually have a guildmate who is being locked out of his top 10 all day because what sounds like a bunch of 12 year olds with their dads credit cards are ruling his top 10 and immediately attacking anyone that enters. A group of people should not be able to lock out the top 10 of a shard all day long.

Arena does need an overhaul but as I said I don't think we will see it anytime soon.

@MrClean621, that's unfortunate about your guildmate. Maybe he developed a bad reputation by sniping and consistently attacking others outside of his payout. But not to worry, sometimes our homework gets in the way :)

I said it before and I will say again... whoever designed the arena system should not be allowed to design games! EVER!

Who the hell designs a game system where when you can or can not play is determined by other players you are competeting against? Then there's the whole guild raid system... I'd bet designed by the same person. Again if so they should NOT be allowed to design games. One of the intellectually most deficent design ideas I have seen in my thirty odd years of playing computer games.

The best games are games made when you play when you want, not when you can because some competitor allows you to!

I said before a point system is the best way to go, and you can still make a system to buy refreshes to get a better score... and It's likely there will be ppl who will spend a bunch load just to make 1st or even top 10 depending on how big the ladder is and daily attempt limits.

But as far as I'm concerned, it's either too much work for those involved or they just don't want to kick the hornets nest as it were...

And just for good measure I'll say it again... whoever designed the current arena system for this game should NOT be allowed to make or design computer games EVER!

"MrClean621;649962" wrote:
I actually understand where you are coming from and I agree with you Revenant. The arena system is ****. I actually have a guildmate who is being locked out of his top 10 all day because what sounds like a bunch of 12 year olds with their dads credit cards are ruling his top 10 and immediately attacking anyone that enters. A group of people should not be able to lock out the top 10 of a shard all day long.

Arena does need an overhaul but as I said I don't think we will see it anytime soon.

@MrClean621 that's actually kind of sad that your guild mate gets outsmarted by a bunch of 12 year olds.

"Kirk;649708" wrote:
Fortunately for me I have never been sniped. Someone did try once, but I managed to snipe him back right after. I typically make sure I'm at least 2 fights removed near the end of timer so.

It takes me ~45 seconds to snipe other top 5 teams, and the same with them. It's quite competitive on my server. It's best to "clock block" them. :D